Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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Fogdog

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No the fact of the matter is you're now IGNORING THE SCIENTIFIC FACTS pal & I'm sure you're one of those parrots who like to say "Trust the science" at the same fucking time. You can't ignore what has already been proven & that's the PCR test isn't & was never a diagnostic test. In other words it can't diagnose anything. It can amplify all kinds of shit yeah but will never give you a definitive result just the same as in 2007 when it played a role in a false Whooping Cough epidemic at a US hospital as was reported in the New York Times.

The testing process can't differentiate between a common cold, a non related pathogen exhibiting similar traits to coronavirus & this Covid19. I guess the below are just misinformation also?
Aggregate statistics showing us that 10 million became infected and half a million people died or seriously ill due to Covid is not science, it's just bookkeeping but I guess to you, it's science. I won't argue definitions.

Let's just call what listening to antivaxxers has caused for what it is. Carnage. Completely preventable carnage.

Medical science was used to help make decisions that led to developing these vaccines and the results show they are saving lives. Medical experts were proven correct when they said the vaccines are safe and effective. Just looking at the carnage one can see this is true. Where people are vaccinated at high rates, the epidemic is not crashing the healthcare system. Where people are vaccinated at low rates, healthcare systems are crashing due to high rates of Covid. I didn't say "trust" science, I'm looking at outcomes. All the proof one should need to evaluate the results of our vaccinations is there.
 
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Fogdog

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“That’s why when virologists want to isolate a virus from a sample, they’ll take the sample or some part of it and add it to some cells – usually ones that are relatively easy to grow in the lab – and then look to see if the cells die and/or if there are any virus particles released into the liquid nutrient bath the cells are growing in.”

Um no how the fuck do you purify something by adding something else to it? Absolute stupidity from that article & its the exact same as all the scientific papers also. You've just tainted what you've allegedly pulled out with Vero cells & its fucking elements dickhead. You can isolate shit smaller that viruses with ease yet have to go through this witch hunt looking for a virus? Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
well, now you are just showing your ignorance.
lol and your link was a Reuters Factcheck who are most likely invested in the pharma companies just like many of your Universities and other corporations are. Next time send me one of the facebook fact checkers, about as fucking credible.

If the virus is spreading like wildfire in public why hasn't someone just swabbed something & proven it that way? It would be easy wouldn't it? Oh that's right, no virus has ever been proven to circulate outside of a living organism & just a little secret from the past guess how a virus was proven? By drilling holes into the skulls of cows, infecting bacteria with a poison & then inserting the infected bacteria into the skull of that cow. That's where "Germ Theories" big breakthrough comes from.

Here's another, Remember Edward Jenner the man who was experimenting on a young boy before his work was praised & regarded as a success in 1798? Know what happened to that young boy at the age of 20 & years after Jenners work was accredited? He died of Tuberculosis, you know the first case documented... Oh look TB came straight from inoculation but hey thankfully in 1923 we created another fucking vaccine for that vaccine adverse event hey?

But hey when you can see how a killer lymphocyte (Of which 80%+ reside in your Lymph nodes at all times) functions under an electron microscope cleaning up dead cellular debris in the bloodstream & literally carpet bombing tumours to break them down for removal after sending signals to bring more Lymphocytes (T cells) to clean that tumour up let me know.. I've seen & read shit you don't even know exists you muppet. Again get the fuck outta here with your bullshit.

I bet you believe the Spanish Flu also started in Spain yeah? lol Wrong again. It started on a US military base in Kansas you know after mandated vaccines & soldiers being whacked up with between 14-25 different viruses within days & prior to leaving for WW1. Again experiments couldn't prove the Spanish Flu was even a contagion. I got all bases covered over here... Don't you worry about that.
umm,

nothing you say changes the fact that 10 million were sickened by Coronavirus (SARS Cov-2) and half a million died or are suffering from long haul Covid.

I don't know why you think a history lesson has any bearing on that fact.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Child Tamp who has a Son who loves child prostitutes & is best friends with a child face filleter

Your leaders are Child Molesters

To have a virus its existence MUST be proven outside of a computer program from China.

Bud I can lay waste to ANYONE here when it comes to microbiology, virology, biochemistry.

Countries such as Israel, Iceland, Malta & Gibraltar are the highest inoculated countries on the planet yet in one Jerusalem hospital admissions are 90% double jabbed. I'm hearing similar stories coming out of the USA & to the extent that 1000's of frontline workers within the next month (Coerced to get this fucking shit of course) are walking off the job & joining the resistance. There's your trojan horse for "Flooded Hospitals" also.

In my country more people have died due to the lockdowns that Covid (Assuming it even exists)
)chopped out the above spam to laugh at the highlights.

The new sock is ridiculous.



Just because people get sick of listening to your crazy because they have real things that they have to deal with doesn't mean you 'lay waste' to them.

You speak of cases, but total us deaths in 2020 were less than 2019. What a horrible pandemic.
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NEW YORK (AP) — This is the deadliest year in U.S. history, with deaths expected to top 3 million for the first time — due mainly to the coronavirus pandemic.

Final mortality data for this year will not be available for months. But preliminary numbers suggest that the United States is on track to see more than 3.2 million deaths this year, or at least 400,000 more than in 2019.

U.S. deaths increase most years, so some annual rise in fatalities is expected. But the 2020 numbers amount to a jump of about 15%, and could go higher once all the deaths from this month are counted.

That would mark the largest single-year percentage leap since 1918, when tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers died in World War I and hundreds of thousands of Americans died in a flu pandemic. Deaths rose 46% that year, compared with 1917.

COVID-19 has killed more than 318,000 Americans and counting. Before it came along, there was reason to be hopeful about U.S. death trends.

MORE COVID-19 NEWS:
The nation’s overall mortality rate fell a bit in 2019, due to reductions in heart disease and cancer deaths. And life expectancy inched up — by several weeks — for the second straight year, according to death certificate data released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But life expectancy for 2020 could end up dropping as much as three full years, said Robert Anderson of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The CDC counted 2,854,838 U.S. deaths last year, or nearly 16,000 more than 2018. That’s fairly good news: Deaths usually rise by about 20,000 to 50,000 each year, mainly due to the nation’s aging, and growing, population.

Indeed, the age-adjusted death rate dropped about 1% in 2019, and life expectancy rose by about six weeks to 78.8 years, the CDC reported.

“It was actually a pretty good year for mortality, as things go,” said Anderson, who oversees CDC death statistics.

The U.S. coronavirus epidemic has been a big driver of deaths this year, both directly and indirectly.

The virus was first identified in China last year, and the first U.S. cases were reported this year. But it has become the third leading cause of death, behind only heart disease and cancer. For certain periods this year, COVID-19 was the No. 1 killer.

But some other types of deaths also have increased.

A burst of pneumonia cases early this year may have been COVID-19 deaths that simply weren’t recognized as such early in the epidemic. But there also have been an unexpected number of deaths from certain types of heart and circulatory diseases, diabetes and dementia, Anderson said.

Many of those, too, may be related to COVID. The virus could have weakened patients already struggling with those conditions, or could have diminished the care they were getting, he said.

Early in the epidemic, some were optimistic that car crash deaths would drop as people stopped commuting or driving to social events. Data on that is not yet in, but anecdotal reports suggest there was no such decline.

Suicide deaths dropped in 2019 compared with 2018, but early information suggests they have not continued to drop this year, Anderson and others said.

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Drug overdose deaths, meanwhile, got much worse.

Before the coronavirus even arrived, the U.S. was in the midst of the deadliest drug overdose epidemic in its history.

Data for all of 2020 is not yet available. But last week the CDC reported more than 81,000 drug overdose deaths in the 12 months ending in May, making it the highest number ever recorded in a one-year period.

Experts think the pandemic’s disruption to in-person treatment and recovery services may have been a factor. People also are more likely to be taking drugs alone — without the benefit of a friend or family member who can call 911 or administer overdose-reversing medication.

But perhaps a bigger factor are the drugs themselves: COVID-19 caused supply problems for dealers, so they are increasingly mixing cheap and deadly fentanyl into heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine, experts said.

“I don’t suspect there are a bunch of new people who suddenly started using drugs because of COVID. If anything, I think the supply of people who are already using drugs is more contaminated,” said Shannon Monnat, a Syracuse University researcher who studies drug overdose trends.

You haven't met me.
But let me guess, you're a low t beta male.
lol at you going from some highly successful retiree to regurgitating some lame ass proud boy cuck talking point.

You should take a nap man. Get some food in you and come back when you are nice and rested, because your shit has devolved into lazy nonsensical trolling.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Every single PCR up until the rollout of the vaccine was running between 37-50 cycle threshold. At those cycles I can safely say that every single case inside the USA (If not across the world) is a FALSE POSITIVE & that is going off exactly what Anthony Fauci admitted himself when he states that anything over 35 cycles is pretty much 0% accurate & that is one fact you can never deny. I have the PCR thresholds from last year (Yes all that were being used) cited with the cycles that were being run just as I have not only the SARS-CoV-2 scientific studies but all the SARS studies from 2003 also which show neither were isolated/purified just like every single fucking virus in history hasn't been isolated/purified. But hey if you don't want to trust the science anymore when it comes to the above I'm easy man.
I present to the forum @darknstormy82 's post as an example of

bafflegab.

Definitions
  • noun Unclear, wordy jargon; gobbledygook.
  • noun Language whose purpose is to obscure, confuse, or mislead.
Examples
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Another example from the bafflegab bot, aka @darknstormy82:

"Every single PCR up until the rollout of the vaccine was running between 37-50 cycle threshold. At those cycles I can safely say that every single case inside the USA (If not across the world) is a FALSE POSITIVE

Nonsense. PCR cycles, are not repeatable from lab-to-lab and cannot be used to disqualify or qualify a test result.

But the asshat was relying on the jargon used by labs to describe test results to specialists who understand what it means. His words had little meaning to most in this forum. His post was more like intellectual bullying than an attempt at convincing or giving real information. His purpose was to mislead or at the very least, confuse.

Some background information if interested:
 

doublejj

Well-Known Member
If you're going to question what's there at least provide something intelligent yourself because citing the marvellous work of a know Child Tamp who has a Son who loves child prostitutes & is best friends with a child face filleter doesn't help your credibility for one. Your leaders are Child Molesters when it comes down to it & the same people trying to jab every fucker down to the age of 12 years old (For now).. hmm interesting hey..

2nd, Show me where Covid has been purified? To have a virus its existence MUST be proven outside of a computer program from China.

3rd, What cycle threshold are the PCR running at taking into consideration Fauci himself said anything over 35 cycles is picking up nothing more than dead cellular debris which is always there?

You want to talk about ignorance? Bud I can lay waste to ANYONE here when it comes to microbiology, virology, biochemistry. In the end you've said nothing that's intelligent & resort to the usual comments of the fucking dumb arses who seem to know they're out of their league. I've done this for a very long time, have butted heads with biologists etc & not once has ANYONE been able to prove the existence of the virus & even when Governments are asked to present the evidence they have to admit they don't have it which includes your very own CDC & FDA to boot.

As for the PCR test let's talk about the DELTA variant which is nothing more than what used to be known as the "Indian variant" until the Indian Government threatened legal proceedings. Because so many people are coming down with this DELTA variant it must have a pretty stringent testing process. Can you show me where this test is please? It's something no-one can do and every lab inside the USA admits doesn't exist. How are they manufacturing these numbers if they can't even measure the variant in the first place?

Countries such as Israel, Iceland, Malta & Gibraltar are the highest inoculated countries on the planet yet in one Jerusalem hospital admissions are 90% double jabbed. I'm hearing similar stories coming out of the USA & to the extent that 1000's of frontline workers within the next month (Coerced to get this fucking shit of course) are walking off the job & joining the resistance. There's your trojan horse for "Flooded Hospitals" also. Get the fuck out of daydream land dude because the reality is those trying to speak out whether injured or have witnessed what's going on are immediately censored. Last years heroes are this years villains according to JOE BIDEN & his child tamp pals.

Just the fact you speak about Biden like that tells a lot about you to be honest.In my country more people have died due to the lockdowns that Covid (Assuming it even exists) & lol what you think this is a pandemic? I haven't had a vaccine in the last 35 years, rarely fall sick with ANYTHING & even when I do I'm not a little pussy who shits himself & runs off to the hospital worried about a mythical virus jamming fucking ethylene oxide into my brain barrier just to be sure I haven't got the mythical virus either. Know what the funny thing about the swabs are dude? You're meant to spit on them, not shove them into your brain.

The feeling is mutual also btw. Hell I couldn't care if inoculation gets to 80% in my country & then every retard drops to the ground... Self inflicted for putting faith into people who lie at every opportunity they get.

As for Ivermectin lol fuck off. I know of many different remedies that can block the ACE-2 receptors. That's what happens when Terrain Theory is your go to & not the proven fraud of Germ Theory. You actually think you're generating a response to Covid when that shits injected haha na its your body responding to being fucking poisoned just the same as if you're bitten by a snake or a tick. You know Toxins being injected into the bloodstream etc? Fucking dumb arses. In my country a bill was passed last year to approve the use of poison being used as a health treatment. Yeah the exact same jabs you're praising mate, nice work there.
talk about creepy......
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doublejj

Well-Known Member
Less than 3,000 died in the tragic 9/11 and we commentate it annually.

650k so far have died from Covid, much of which is and was preventable, many of those deaths come from domestic terrorists (those who refuse to take measures to prevent themselves and others from getting sick and/or dying) and they say the government is fucking with their freedoms….

irony!

if only we could finger a foreign nation as the culprit, eh?
we can Russia/Trump......
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Russia didn't exactly sneak .....
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I disagree, respectfully, the groundwork for Trump was laid years before him. Trump wasn't even a remote possibility without it. Most of us saw him as a hopeless buffoon (which he is) with no chance of winning. We did not realize how much progress they had made with the poor white trash because we look down upon them. I am guilty of this and so are most of us. Russia does too but they stroked them and fed their rage, fully aware that there are enough of them to make a difference and upset the whole system. We had one recourse, educate their children and make them better than their parents but we didn't fucking do it. We are losing that battle today in school board meetings all over America.

My analogy was not perfect. Maybe Trump wasn't the fist. Maybe he is the plague baccilus under the fingernails that would kill democracy in America for the rest of our lives.

Just look at how RT built themselves into a "legitimate" news source. It wasn't just the poor right wing trash that are gobbling up crap like yournewswire, OAN and Newsmax. RT hits the psuedo-intellectuals like @ttystikk . Think back on his descent into the rabbit hole. Was it really that different from what happened to flaming pie and the former Satan worshiping well known TnT staple that became a Christian lunatic who believes that the Democrats are sacrificing babies so much that the FBI came pounding on her door shortly after Jan 6th?

It WAS sneaky. It was brilliant! It was the intelligence coup of the last 50 years. It still may be the move that wins them the game.
 
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Unclebaldrick

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And despite still being a hopeless buffoon, people are still buying Trump crap and festooned their shitty little homes with it out here. I've never seen anything like this. But Russia just saw in us what we could not see - or WOULD not see - in our own society.

They got the ball rolling. But we brought it up to speed and ran it through the doors of the Capitol.

So maybe we are the fist. We allowed those with power to create a massive income inequality that disenfranchised our underclasses and benefit the rich and powerful for decades and we mostly sat back and watched it happen because we were doing ok. We allowed racism to continue in the dark corners of our country for decades. By doing these things we pretty much opened the door to the racists and self-serving cocksuckers to whisper "your life is shit because of minorities seeking equality and immigrants taking your jobs" and it resonated with a full third of our people or more.

We probably deserved this and we probably still do. Russia just helped make sure it came to a head.
 
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