World Of Hempy

kgb424 · Oct 10, 2012

I have used 50/50 perlite and vermiculite to start seeds and cuttings, never thought going hempy, I use a tray with the seedling cups in it and it a pain in the ass to pop them out with out them crumbling, question so if use hempy to grow do you pick the size of pot for the size of plant you, example a 3 gallon pot and start it that same pot, from seed or clone to harvest with out transplanting correct ???

smoothness · Oct 10, 2012

sk8ter.13 said:
I think I have some pics of some big SLH buds I grew on my old phone, but it is in a box in my closet somewhere and I don’t feel like digging for it right now, so all I can show ya is what I have around at the moment, but I snapped a couple of pics for ya.
The one picture is of one of the two SLH I have flowering in my little scrog cabinet right now, I topped it once, the bigger main cola is on the left, smaller top on the right, and a little kushberry branch in the front there.
The other picture is my bonsai SLH mom in the middle flanked by two of her clones, which I just topped yesterday.
As far as the nute strength goes, I usually just feed her like a ¾ strength dose compared to the full strength the other two strains get, which is still a little weaker than what the label says to use.

hmmm nice... how old is the bonsai mom?

smoothness · Oct 10, 2012

Moebius said:
stems turn purple with some strains, no issue there, its nice.

to tell when to water is a bit of a guessing game, you can judge a little by the relative weight of the container. ... i hope those seedling cups have a hole at the bottom.

a buried stem will root. not rot.

and benny bacteria is ok, ive not done it but can't see why not. If an additive can be used in active hydro it generally can be used in passive.

thanks alot sorry for all the questions, im anxious cause its my first grow.

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

kgb424 said:
I have used 50/50 perlite and vermiculite to start seeds and cuttings, never thought going hempy, I use a tray with the seedling cups in it and it a pain in the ass to pop them out with out them crumbling, question so if use hempy to grow do you pick the size of pot for the size of plant you, example a 3 gallon pot and start it that same pot, from seed or clone to harvest with out transplanting correct ???

for a larger pot (say 3 gal) you can use a rockwool cube to root cuttings, i.e 1" then insert into a 4" cube then transplant.

or you can aero clone a bare root cutting and transplant.

or possibly use a jiffy pot (theyre cardboard and easy to break) with your perl/verm clone mix then break or directly transplant.

some people here even root and grow in soil, tip pot upside down, remove potted soil plant, and insert the whole soil core into the hempy container.

so many options.

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

smoothness said:
thanks alot sorry for all the questions, im anxious cause its my first grow.

Its all good, we at W.O.H enjoy helping others and spreading the word. Feel free to ask whatever you so wish. I'm sure your first grow will be a success.

:leaf:

smoothness · Oct 10, 2012

the thing bout hempy im worried about is the ftw factor. thats alot of nutes to feed to waste... i guess i should just learn how much will fill my rez before i put in nutes? how much dry weight did you get per plant moebius?

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

smoothness said:
the thing bout hempy im worried about is the ftw factor. thats alot of nutes to feed to waste... i guess i should just learn how much will fill my rez before i put in nutes? how much dry weight did you get per plant moebius?

personally, I don't worry about wasting nutes. But then again I am quite in wasteful general, always buying food that I don't end up eating etc etc lol.
You can be more careful, others will pour like a specified amount (like a cupful) into each hempy and go from there.... that's a skill in itself. tbh ... for me now theres not much wastage.

Dry weight per plant, I have not yet taken specifics. due to the strange way I have sometimes sold my weed. .... sometimes wet, sometimes dry, never cured. It goes to a friend/distributor who takes it from there.

I'm guessing now, but its about between 14-16g per plant. Now I'm talking about it online, I'll be sure to give details since that's what people want to know.

edit:
Due to my poor technique with this method, at the beginning some probably weighed less. The important thing for me is/ws to perfect my technique and grow room. Weight has been of secondary importance.

btw. I'm not an expert grower but an enthusiastic amateur.

smoothness · Oct 10, 2012

Moebius said:
personally, I don't worry about wasting nutes. But then again I am quite wasteful generally, always buying food that I don't end up eating etc etc lol.
You can be more careful, others will pour like a specified amount (like a cupful) into each hempy and go from there.... that's a skill in itself. tbh ... for me now theres not much wastage.

Dry weight per plant, I have not yet taken specifics. due to the strange way I have sometimes sold my weed. .... sometimes wet, sometimes dry, never cured. It goes to a friend/distributor who takes it from there.

I'm guessing now, but its about between 14-16g per plant. Now I'm talking about it online, I'll be sure to give details since that's what people want to know.

edit:
Due to my poor technique with this method, at the beginning some probably weighed less. The important thing for me is/ws to perfect my technique and grow room. Weight has been of secondary importance.

btw. I'm not an expert grower but an enthusiastic amateur.

more experienced than me. i have this one 10'x10' room for now. running on a budget of only 4k. so im trying to get the most weight i can off this grow so i can raise funds to get a house and make a more balanced and high tech grow place.

with 128 plants if i get 4lbs out of it then im happy.but im going to shoot for a higher goal. with both sides of scrog and sog i hopefully can pull an 8 lber.... but i will be happy with 4-5. with 4000watts i hope its worth the time and money put into this...

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

smoothness said:
more experienced than me. i have this one 10'x10' room for now. running on a budget of only 4k. so im trying to get the most weight i can off this grow so i can raise funds to get a house and make a more balanced and high tech grow place.

with 128 plants if i get 4lbs out of it then im happy.but im going to shoot for a higher goal. with both sides of scrog and sog i hopefully can pull an 8 lber.... but i will be happy with 4-5. with 4000watts i hope its worth the time and money put into this...

thats a lot of money to put into a rig ... i bought my equipment bit by bit with the dough from previous run. It WILL be worth it.

smoothness · Oct 10, 2012

second grow imma have a room for veg and 2-3 rooms for flowering. plan to do a month to a month and a half harvest. still debating about doing an outdoor grow as well. but i might do it in another house more outskirts of the city. i mean state of the heart ventilation and soundproofing insulation. this house im doing my first grow in, i cant drill holes in the ceiling but my next house i can drill holes leading to the attic to drain exhaust air out of the room. i plan to use the living room as well. ill put a mattress to sleep on in the kitchen if i have to.only thing thats gonna suck is that imma have to hand water everything. but in texas... if u grow... its a felony. so go big or go home.... and if hempyworks for me this first grow then i guess ill do hempy for all my grows as well.

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

smoothness said:
second grow imma have a room for veg and 2-3 rooms for flowering. plan to do a month to a month and a half harvest. still debating about doing an outdoor grow as well. but i might do it in another house more outskirts of the city. i mean state of the heart ventilation and soundproofing insulation. this house im doing my first grow in, i cant drill holes in the ceiling but my next house i can drill holes leading to the attic to drain exhaust air out of the room. i plan to use the living room as well. ill put a mattress to sleep on in the kitchen if i have to.only thing thats gonna suck is that imma have to hand water everything. but in texas... if u grow... its a felony. so go big or go home.... and if hempyworks for me this first grow then i guess ill do hempy for all my grows as well.

Thats the best phrase ive heard in a while'

Go big or Go home .... I'll be using that one quite a bit as it sums up my attitude in most things. 1or 2 plants is nice whilst learning for me its not a good use of time or money.

Your grow OP will take meticulous planning and discipline. .. not just with the grow but with everything else too.
If you havent already, google 'come sog with me' and check out 420fied's grow.

smoothness · Oct 10, 2012

ive seen that grow journal.. long time ago. i dont like how he only got a few grams per plant tho and 1/4 lb per tote.

with money anything is possible. as long as you pay your light bill and stay on schedule.. u will last a long time. the waiting is what is killing me. its only day 8 for me and im ripping my hair out from anxiety. im so impatient with the progess of the seedlings right now. wish i could speed shit up

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

smoothness said:
ive seen that grow journal.. long time ago. i dont like how he only got a few grams per plant tho and 1/4 lb per tote.

with money anything is possible. as long as you pay your light bill and stay on schedule.. u will last a long time. the waiting is what is killing me. its only day 8 for me and im ripping my hair out from anxiety. im so impatient with the progess of the seedlings right now. wish i could speed shit up

all good things come to he who waits ... I'm sure with such ambitious plans, there are other things to be getting on with. I know even with my modest grow, there is always something i need to plan for. Before you know it you'll be sick of the sight of bud. :leaf:

smoothness · Oct 10, 2012

Moebius said:
all good things come to he who waits ... I'm sure with such ambitious plans, there are other things to be getting on with. I know even with my modest grow, there is always something i need to plan for. Before you know it you'll be sick of the sight of bud.

i dont think id ever be sick of the site of bud? thats like a billionaire saying hes sick of money

sky rocket · Oct 10, 2012

smoothness said:
ive seen that grow journal.. long time ago. i dont like how he only got a few grams per plant tho and 1/4 lb per tote.

with money anything is possible. as long as you pay your light bill and stay on schedule.. u will last a long time. the waiting is what is killing me. its only day 8 for me and im ripping my hair out from anxiety. im so impatient with the progess of the seedlings right now. wish i could speed shit up

420 fied avg 15.3 grams per plant in a sog per plant going straight from rooted clone to 12/12. Is grow is killer for the the sog style.

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

sky rocket said:
420 fied avg 15.3 grams per plant in a sog per plant going straight from rooted clone to 12/12. Is grow is killer for the the sog style.

Ive got a friend who says the same thing re 2L hempys, he's just doesnt appreciate the power of SOG. .. Horses for courses.

jela10 · Oct 10, 2012

smoothness said:
i dont think id ever be sick of the site of bud? thats like a billionaire saying hes sick of money

You will, never get sick of the sight of bud my friend. However, watering a hempy SOG, especially in late flower could be tiresome...I'm curious....does it ever get that way? I have to stay on my 2gal hempy's every other day during the final 2 weeks...I could only imagine a SOG's needs if you don't have a drip system or the like.

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

You guys may not get sick of the sight of it but I do , Ive been around a hell of a lot of it over the past 20 years and ther are times I smoked so much I turned Green ......... <sigh>

Just got back from work, on the way home I ordered a take-away and paid for it, they usually take forever to make it, so I went to smoke a joint with my friend who lives across the road. Smoked the joint, got home and ....... Argghghhhh .........forget my take-away in the bloody shop.
I'm bloomin starvin and now I got to buy another.

Im such a dope. :cuss:

Edit:
well... at least I got my camera back so I can upload some pics :roll:

and I picked up really cheesy Exodus bud :bigjoint:

Moebius · Oct 10, 2012

jela10 said:
You will, never get sick of the sight of bud my friend. However, watering a hempy SOG, especially in late flower could be tiresome...I'm curious....does it ever get that way? I have to stay on my 2gal hempy's every other day during the final 2 weeks...I could only imagine a SOG's needs if you don't have a drip system or the like.

I tried a DIY drip system for 80 before but I have low headspace so can;t collect the run-off. It has to be handwatering for me.

150+ hempys was going to be a hell of a lot of work hand watering. I was secretly worried I couldnt manage it. The Perl/Verm mix was drying out to fast. Then hempyneer NewWorldIcon told me about Mapito and guys, it rocks. Basically, I'm cutting out at least 1 maybe 2 waterings a week and my plants are looking twice as healthy and big. (You can decide for yourself, I'll take pics in 1 hour and you can compare with my last ones)

OK ... Last time it was Violator Kush, this time its Exodus Cheese .. but all the same .. theres something in this Mapito, I tell ya' ...LOL

Gibb · Oct 10, 2012

How is Mapito on multiple uses? I've seen it used before, but the main draw, in my mind, for perlite is that you don't have to worry about enzymes and cleaning it, just rip the roots out, dump it in a bucket, collect what's on top and then throw it back into the pot.

Also, mold and algae seem like they would much prefer Mapito over rocks like perlite.

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