World Of Hempy

So if i got with something like this... http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/meters-testing-ph/ph-meters/bluelab-ph-pen/

with this.... http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/meters-testing-ph/calibration-and-cleaning/bluelab-ph-probe-cleaning-calibration-kit/

would that include everything? that the right cleaning tools and calibration set? etc.

thank you guys!

i did't see buffer soloutions or storage , i know you mentioned those as well

The calibration solutions are teh buffer and storage solutions. Use the 4.0 for storage becasue the 7.0 will slowly damage the glass of the probe and fuck it up.

or there is a solution they sell specifically for storing it that is supposedly the acid that's in the glass probe, i have it and use a few drops but i also know about the 4.0 trick. Also some have 3-step calibrations and some have 2 step calibrations.

i had a pen i accidentally let dry out and i left it in the solution for a while. it started working again and for some reason even though i calibrate it its .2 under what the real pH reading is. It's nice to have a back up though, just in case.

Thanks a lot guys! So whenever the ph pen is not in use it MUST be continuously stored in solution, then calibrate it every so often?

Yep, if it dries out it gets fucked up. Clean it after each use as well. I don't know where you would get them other than a lab supplier but Kimwipes are the bomb for cleaning probes and such. I guess single ply tp that isn't treated with anything would work as well. I may have to try that as I'm almost out of them, though I need to replace my meter first.
They make little containers that have a hole in the top for your meter to go through so you don't lose as much storage solution to evaporation. Or you can put it in a little glass with something covering it.

FuckJeffGoldbloom said:

awesome lookin stuff stone!

Hey guys quick question... digital PH meter, anybody have a brand they trust, i dont mind paying for quality but over 50 bucks is a lot IMO, i currently use the GH PH kit, and its where you take a sample, then add the drops to the vial and compare the colors...too broad i want to dial in, and plus my eyes just are getting worse and worse, i can't even tell the different shades of color i have to ask for a second opinion always... plus im sick mixing it every time, just a waste... any thoughts? the cheap ones i see on amazon (10-15 bucks) have all bad reviews, none have solid comments about them, all seem fragile, i have a good digital ppm meter, and would like the ease of a digital ph meter lol...

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Most of the cheaper PH pens will start to suck after a few uses unless you get an expensive one. Those cheapo Amazon ones end up fucking up after a while. That is why I use the liquid stuff, even though it is a pain! I guess I just don't see spending the money on something that will stop functioning after 10 uses and have me back to the fluid anyway!

The beauty of Hempy is you can kinda get away with not being so exact with your PH. As long as you maintain around 6.0 you won't run into too many problems. More precise PH is more important to active hydo systems. Then you want to make sure you are in that 5.8 range the best you can.

I don't know, just an opinion thing I guess. Some swear by PH pens, others have problems with them (unless you buy a real expensive one!)....

Nizza said:

i bought the bluelab pens, with the cleaner kits. you gotta make sure that if you buy a ph meter you get the proper cleaning tools, buffering solutions, and also storage solution. It's a hefty amount to put down but its well worth it cause that pen will last you more than 2 years of constant use. I'd say all together ~300$ for the PH pen, PH cleaner kit with Buffering solutions, TDS pen, TDS pen cleaner kit with calibration solution, and also the bluelab pH pen storage solution.

id say 160$ for the pH pen and cleaner and storage solution

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EXACTLY!! You're $300 into a pen that a cheapo liquid solution can accomplish! I just don't get it when using Hempy's, outside of the convenience I guess....

I have trouble with colorimetric tests and would rather have a meter personally.

MrEDuck said:

I have trouble with colorimetric tests and would rather have a meter personally.

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To each his own I guess. I have no problem with the liquid tester, I have the 6.0 range color down pat so I don't need to refer to the chart anymore (it is basically "piss yellow!")!!

I have a $30 Milwaukee 600 I've been using for over 2 years now. Maybe I just got lucky. I clean it with the Hannah cleaning solution after every grow and store it in the Hannah storage solution. Calibration is almost not necessary as it always seems to test at 7.0. I use the hell out of it too, I like to start my ph off around 5.8 for veg and raise it to about 6.0 when I flip. I then slowly raise it till I'm around 6.4-6.5 at the end of flower. There is some good info out there about how readily elements are taken in at different levels of ph.

Thanks guys, great options

I always get piss yellow with that ph test, and ill even try to go crazy with the ph up and down trying to get it to vary and its always piss yellow or yellow ish... this makes me concerned i would like to have everything dialed in, and with all the money in nutes and lights and tents and medium and um um....buckets! yeah those are 2 bucks each! lol i just would rather be 100% on with my ph, to identify problems, then rely on my color blind eyes, and a piss color test lol... its great for the water and etc just getting a range, but my eyes... lets go between $30 and $300 ... say $150 right (not so in the middle but yeah), $150/366... $150 bucks divided by 36 months...just over 4 bucks a month ... to be sure i have the correct ph... just how i calculate if somehting is truly "expensive".... if i dont grow my own i spend almost 180 a half- 400 ounce a week on smoke ...thats just F**ked up! so 300 in a ph tester to help me be on the road to a quality grower...im in lol

lamopa said:

To each his own I guess. I have no problem with the liquid tester, I have the 6.0 range color down pat so I don't need to refer to the chart anymore (it is basically "piss yellow!")!!

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Depending on the Nutes your using, it changes the color of the water, so the Color PH Tests don't necessarily work.

I was using an Expensive Hanna TRI Meter for a while, and Boy did it SUCK! Floated all over the place, would take forever getting to a number,, I finally threw it against a wall a bought an $80 Oakton Eco Tester along with Proper Storage Solution, and its sure made life easier!! Dont even need to calibrate for a couple of months, and then just do it because I want to use some of the Calibration Solution I have before it goes bad.

I'm rootin for the hempy sticky https://www.rollitup.org/make-your-requests/711836-new-section-request-grow-tents-2.html

Rusty Shakelford said:

Depending on the Nutes your using, it changes the color of the water, so the Color PH Tests don't necessarily work.

I was using an Expensive Hanna TRI Meter for a while, and Boy did it SUCK! Floated all over the place, would take forever getting to a number,, I finally threw it against a wall a bought an $80 Oakton Eco Tester along with Proper Storage Solution, and its sure made life easier!! Dont even need to calibrate for a couple of months, and then just do it because I want to use some of the Calibration Solution I have before it goes bad.

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I always check PH after I nute. I have gotten that pretty down pat, too. After a couple of tries I learned quick how much PH Down I will need after adding my nutes!

Hey all, quick update: Of course the cheapo, $7 camera I bought off Amazon does not want to download the pics I took onto my PC!! I have an older PC at work that is running XP, I'm going to try that one tomorrow! I really want to show FJG where I am at since we started right around the same time! It's great to compare grows and tweak in what works.

In the meantime all my plants are looking great! Watering every other day when they're in the 2.5 gallon Hempy buckets seems to be best. The plan is to take clones this weekend and start flowering on Sept. 1st.

Hopefully I can post my pics tomorrow. If not I'll update this weekend after I take clones!

how does it connect to the computer? you may have to download the drivers for that particular camera if its an older one... they aren't plug and play like the new ones..
yeah id love to have some one else to ref to! how far along are they?

Remember the Nirvana Bubblicious I showed you with severe "edge curl" from birth? It finally developed it's root system and fixed itself. Still unfit for a mother type, I decided to throw it in a 2x2 veg tent and flower it out. It's actually my test bed for a hydroton clay ball/coco hempy medium that I've never tried before. The little 5qt handy pale is scary bad as others can tell you. Oh...ever seen a CFL with mogul base this big before? I could imagine Crocodile Dundee whipping this out of his holster and saying "Now this is a CFL". This sucker is a 350W equivalent using only 85W....30k spectrum too. Put it in a bat-wing reflector and the heat is so low you wouldn't believe. This is turning out to be a fun low-cost experiment already...
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Wow thats a huge CFL!, I want to set up a small 2x2 for veg, and do not want to spend any more really on electric costs, this seems viable, im interested to see how it turns out, was it vegged under that light the whole time? Heat must almost be a non-issue.

I veg in a little storage tub with 2 23W CFLs and it does a great job. I can get plants in there big enough to yield 3+ oz when flowered. With fluoros I find that more smaller low power bulbs spread out gives better results than a single large light. The 23-42W range generates light the most efficiently.