World Of Hempy

A few root shots of my last three bucket Hempy's.
One WW mainlined to 14 on far right and two Ice one @ 8 mains on far left and washed the roots and one @ 6 mains middle.



There were grown in 3 gallon Hempy's. They were cut on 4/20 and just removed the stem and roots today, very little discoloration, these were some happy roots.

One thing I was not pleased with was the mix, I went with 75/25 Perlite/Vermiculite. When removing the root system from the buckets the Vermiculite was very dominate. Next grow my be 100% Perlite. I believe the additional O2 to the roots with the lighter material will be better.

Any comments welcome.

GR

This was a clone from the WW that I had planned to veg for more clones to mainline this fall but did not want to hold them over the summer so I put her in with the other ladies about 6 weeks ago. She got the cabinet to herself when I harvest the other ladies last Sunday, 4/20/14.

I had her all spread out like a 2 buck trick trying to get as many clones as I could, Well now she is very strange looking but growing well.

She is in a two gallon Hempy with 100% Perlite. Clone went into the Hempy on 2/1/14 and was grown under a 2' by 4 lamp T5. She went into the flower cabinet on 3/17/14 and I expect another two to 3 weeks on her. Her mom finished at day 57.




GR

gr865 said:

One thing I was not pleased with was the mix, I went with 75/25 Perlite/Vermiculite. When removing the root system from the buckets the Vermiculite was very dominate. Next grow my be 100% Perlite. I believe the additional O2 to the roots with the lighter material will be better.

Any comments welcome.

GR

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I dropped verm a couple of yrs back. Like you said run 100% perlite, but I'd recommend topping the perlite with 1 to 2" of soil. It will keep the light out, keeps the perlite from floating around, and seems to even out the water flow over the full area of the bucket.

WattSaver said:

I dropped verm a couple of yrs back. Like you said run 100% perlite, but I'd recommend topping the perlite with 1 to 2" of soil. It will keep the light out, keeps the perlite from floating around, and seems to even out the water flow over the full area of the bucket.

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I'm sold on soil capping and not exactly sure why, but it's more like why not?

I have tried both 100% perlite and the 75/25% perlite/vermiculite...... I think that 100% requires watering more often (IMHO)

Indoor Sun King said:

I'm sold on soil capping and not exactly sure why, but it's more like why not?

I have tried both 100% perlite and the 75/25% perlite/vermiculite...... I think that 100% requires watering more often (IMHO)

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Yes I agree, the WW clone I have finishing now is in a 2 gallon 100% perlite and it does require a bit more watering but I have only had to do that these past few weeks and until harvest. My two gallon Hempy only holds just under a half gallon per fill and she is drinking it all in about 12 hrs.

How about capping with those clay pellets. I have a bunch of them from my failed DWC, very first indoor grow, oh my what a mess. I think the pellets would hold the Perlite in place, plus possibly make the Perlite recyclable.

Hey Watt, I think capillary action will draw the moisture up even if you don't water evenly across the bucket.

GR

Eventually, I will get some pics up of my 2 mainlines up over the weekend. They seem to be doing well. The Kosher Tangie is drinking a gallon every 3 days (hempy).

gr865 said:

How about capping with those clay pellets. I have a bunch of them from my failed DWC, very first indoor grow, oh my what a mess. I think the pellets would hold the Perlite in place, plus possibly make the Perlite recyclable.

Hey Watt, I think capillary action will draw the moisture up even if you don't water evenly across the bucket.

GR

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Hydroton will work fine to keep the perlite in place and block out the light, which allows the roots to set at a higher level in the bucket.

I agree with you on the capillary ability of perlite, coco is better in this category but doesn't hold as much O2, but that's a whole different discussion. When I said even out the water flow I should have been more specific. (disclaimer: my thoughts only, no scientific papers, just the basics of hydraulics) The perk rate through soil is much slower than through perllite, and as the grow proceeds the roots in the soil tighten it up even more.
When watering in any hempy bucket, the new water coming in will displace the old air in the medium some will vent out the top, some will vent out the hole, and some will just be pushed around and remain in the bucket. All the air that is vented (other than the space in the rez) will be replaced with fresh air.
Example of perk rate, tonight I watered my 2 gal bucket with soil cap (day 62, lots of roots). It took 54 sec to pour in 1 gal and not overflow the bucket, it kept a 1"+ level of water above the medium during this time, then it took another 26 sec before anything flowed out of the hole, So with a solid column of water moving through the medium then more old air will be expelled, hence more fresh air will be drawn in. Also the more overflow you have the more air you'll pull through the bucket no matter what medium you use.

Hi Hempy Heads. I've read most of the thread so thanks for everyone's expertise. I've done soil and DWC, this is my first Hempy grows in the first week of flower . Perlite and vermi in half and half straight perlite, in 3 & 2 gallon buckets running on Vegg & bloom on RO.

Cab 1 : Cherry Pie, MK Ultra, La Confidential in 3 gallon black buckets, perlite & vermi.




Cab 2 : Louie OG & Diablo OG ,with a trial Skywalker cut and a Woodie Harleson Bag seed killer pheno. Straight perlite in 2 gallon pots.




Thanks for a cool thread.

looking good TWS....I hope you become converted to hempy's

cheers

From Watt "Example of perk rate, tonight I watered my 2 gal bucket with soil cap (day 62, lots of roots). It took 54 sec to pour in 1 gal and not overflow the bucket, it kept a 1"+ level of water above the medium during this time, then it took another 26 sec before anything flowed out of the hole, So with a solid column of water moving through the medium then more old air will be expelled, hence more fresh air will be drawn in. Also the more overflow you have the more air you'll pull through the bucket no matter what medium you use."


I have during the grow plugged the drain hole and flushed the system using the stopper at the base of my bucket. I will fill the bucket with pH'ed H2O and flush a couple of times, After the final flush I drain the bucket completely, re-install the stopper and refill with either fresh ph'ed water or with prepared nute and pH'ed liquid and allow the liquid to flow from thFe drain hole to about a third of total iquid,
This has worked fine for me, although I don't think the stoppered hole at the base is necessary but does allow for a good complete flush.

GR

Day 41 of 12/12

Indoor Sun King said:

looking good TWS....I hope you become converted to hempy's

cheers

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Thanks SK . It might become my perfered method . I had just built a 4 site RDWC with chiller that I haven't used it yet and have enough supplies to build another one . With that comes more electrical usage and more things to go wrong. All though DWC is explosive and a little less work than watering theres just the chances of blockage.
It took me a little bit to hit the plants stride in the Hempies but once there, the growth seems fair to good. I think I was under feeding. Defentily like it better than soil and old root balls.

Stop by the outdoor thread later on this year and show off your girls in the window.

Peace.

GR if you are flushing with plain water there is no need to adjust the ph. Adjusting the ph is for the plant to uptake nutrients.

TWS said:

Stop by the outdoor thread later on this year and show off your girls in the window.
Peace.

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I'm looking forward to my 2014 indoor/sunshine grow, picked up some auto-fem's, will be starting them within a week

.....I'll be sure to post up in your "Open Show & Tell Outdoors 2014" , it was a great thread last year, hope the Garden Boss is around again this year

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Shot out to moebius, just cut these barneys critical kush this morning. I raped 3 /4 ck moms. Gonna take more cuttings tomorrow so I can make sure I can get 120 rooted clones...View attachment 3134103

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Okay I happened to kill over half my clones due to root rot. I was running my pump 24/7 wich caused the water temps to stay warm. The roots turned brown and soft. I caught it in time to save some. I reduced the pump to go 1 minute on and 4 minutes off and I added frozen 1 gallon water jugs. I had a old stinkbud aero cloner wich I started from the get go at 1 minute on 4 minutes off with 22 clones so far 20 popped roots and that was about 10 days ago. So hopefully 10 more days in the cloner than off into the 2l hempys.

Hey sr sorry to hear bout' the cloner problems must be frustrating to hit the 120 start mark when the cloner isn't cooperating. I really appreciate you sharing your problem so others can learn about the heat issues with a running pump.

I personally learn more from a knowledgeable failed experience, than a pie in the sky grow that discloses no little hiccups along the way. Those little hiccups and the corrective action is what fellow growers need to know.

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Hey sr sorry to hear bout' the cloner problems must be frustrating to hit the 120 start mark when the cloner isn't cooperating. I really appreciate you sharing your problem so others can learn about the heat issues with a running pump.

I personally learn more from a knowledgeable failed experience, than a pie in the sky grow that discloses no little hiccups along the way. Those little hiccups and the corrective action is what fellow growers need to know.

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Thanks watt. I have about 50 rooted clones going to veg them under 600 watt light for two weeks and lollipop them and then on to flower. I have 4 moms of hortilabs sour star for next round after that I'm going to try out reserva Prada tangie sog hempy or coco.

My Mexican ditch weed is finished, put in jars yesterday, still needs lots of open air time....not sure if I'll grow this again, but it was worth the effort

Started an auto-fem for my 2014 indoor/sunshine grow, it will be grown hempy style of course

cheers

This WW plant is only 10 inches tall from the soil line, and from the longest point bud to bud she is 27" wide.
I wish I had started spreading her sooner in her veg, had I been vegging her for flower I would have done so, but I was vegging her for clones. I decided to flower her because I did not want to take a chance of keeping her alive during the summer, in this heat. I had just been pinching her back to get bud sites for clones for a fall SOG grow. On 3/17 I made the decision. So actually I only really started spreading her at the start of flower,
I know it's going to hurt me weight wise but was not much I could do with her when she went into the flower cabinet with the her mom and 2 Ice plants that were main-lined and on day 29 of 12/12. I was only able to spread her good on 4/20 when I harvested the other ladies.
Here are a couple of pics from this mornings H2O/Nutes.

The 27 inch spread in this picture is from about the 5 o'clock to the 11 o'clock position.

You can see the tallest point here. The tallest bud nearest the center of the picture is ten inches from the top of my Hempy bucket mix. She is really a nice looking lady.

I am loving the way the but sites are fattening up and beginning to feel thick. I am 6 to 10 days from harvest unless I see a number of trichomes start to turn amber then I will go ahead and harvest her.

Peace out,

GR

I call my Setup Hempy style.

I learned it all here on RIU and this group.

I am flowering my third plant in the same way.

I grow in rock wool in an ebb n Flow system in my Veg space.
The RW is sitting on clay pellets under T5's.

So my plants roots are mainly in the Rock wool when I move them to Flower in a 5 gallon bucket.

I have 1/4 inch holes 6 inches on center all the way around the bucket, 2 1/2 " from the base.

I fill the bottom with the clay pellets about 1/2" above my ring of holes.

I place my rock wool / root ball in next then I back fill with clay pellets till full.

I use wire to pull my plant down and apart.

I water drain to waist and I only water every other day.

I flush with 4 gallons of straight water once a week.

It is all based on the Hempy system.

The clay pellets get extensive root growth beyond the rock wool.

By 9 weeks the roots will fill the 5 gallon bucket.

click on my journal link to see it in Pix.

I love the Lo Tech Simplicity!

Thanks RIU!

Oh yea, after I flush I use a rubber hose attached to my wet dry vac to clean up the water.

To aerate after flushing I put the vac nozzele against one of the holes, the suction pulls out any water left and pulls air into the bucket thru the clay pellets.

Bless,
DZ

Finishing week 2 .

The Og tent .






Cherry pie and some others