World Of Hempy

WattSaver

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Aw shit my lumatek just went up in smoke. Wtf...
I know I'm an old school, old man, but I still the think a good mag ballast is better than the digital.

Sorry to hear about your equipment failure, It really sucks to have your light schedule all screwed up during a grow.
 

jela10

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Aw shit my lumatek just went up in smoke. Wtf...
Hi 808!, I worry about my 400W Lumatek...it doesn't have fans and depends on the the heat sink alone. I sent my first one back after reading 130° case temperature with an IR gun...(outside my grow tent, the room was getting hot). Got a replacement and it does the same thing. With a year on it and bonus from work I bought a Quantum. It has fans on both ends and runs cooler but they are a noise to deal along with the exhaust. I did a lumen's measurement and it wasn't quite as strong as my Lumatek at the standard 400w setting. So it sits ready for that day I'm cranking along on the Lumatek with "Super Lumens" set and it gives out, just hope nothing smokes....has two circuit breakers on it though. Funny, I know several people with 600w Lumateks that get "gently warm". I sure hope you recover from your melt-down if you don't have a spare and I thank goodness you are safe and well.
 

steeliesteve

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I have a 600w dimmable Digital Greenhouse, it's cool to the touch at 100%. I'm really happy with its performance. Sorry to hear about your issues. Like Jela said, glad everyone's ok!
 

808killahz

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It didnt catch fire or anything but i did see a cloud of smoke come from the ballast after the light flickered off. Unplugged it right away. Lucky i was in the grow area watering the plants when it happened. Kinda screwed me up. Got the floros in there right now vegging them for the time being. Hopefully i can get a replacement or hookup the 400w if it comes to it. Glad i have extra shit laying around...
 

Shivaskunk

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Now this may just be me using magical thinking or the fact that week 5-7 is where buds bulk...but i swear that the plants i hit with pk 13/14 last night bulked up massively. Like went from somewhat soft to the tough to rock hard overnight.

Im really guessing im imagining this but the plants i didnt hit with it dont seem as solid. I hit those just now so we will see tmrw. Ill get pics then too. Im so damn sick i barely have the hour worth of nightly work in me and called in sick to work for the 2nd time in 4 years.

Here is a blurry pic of a smallish girl that i hit with PK tonightIMG_20130323_011130.jpg
 

ross grew

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Was wondering about the coco mulch in a hempy. can I use the mulch with the big pieces? does it hold up in standing without causing root rot? could I maybe use perlite at the bottom and coco chunks for the rest? I have like 75 lbs of coco mulch to use and it sounds perfect for a hempy. It seems to retain water like rock wool. If its bigger chunks of coco mulch will the root grow through the mulch are will it have to go around? I'm doing a 3x3 Flood and using 2 gallon grow bags probably 3 per sq foot. will this work?
 

Txchilies

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Was wondering about the coco mulch in a hempy. can I use the mulch with the big pieces? does it hold up in standing without causing root rot? could I maybe use perlite at the bottom and coco chunks for the rest? I have like 75 lbs of coco mulch to use and it sounds perfect for a hempy. It seems to retain water like rock wool. If its bigger chunks of coco mulch will the root grow through the mulch are will it have to go around? I'm doing a 3x3 Flood and using 2 gallon grow bags probably 3 per sq foot. will this work?

Yes. you can use the mulch to grow in, it will not stop the roots from growing. Using the mulch will allow for larger air space and pockets and more surface area for water and nutes to be retained. The only question for you is how big of a light are you using?
 

whocares100

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Now this may just be me using magical thinking or the fact that week 5-7 is where buds bulk...but i swear that the plants i hit with pk 13/14 last night bulked up massively. Like went from somewhat soft to the tough to rock hard overnight.

Im really guessing im imagining this but the plants i didnt hit with it dont seem as solid. I hit those just now so we will see tmrw. Ill get pics then too. Im so damn sick i barely have the hour worth of nightly work in me and called in sick to work for the 2nd time in 4 years.

Here is a blurry pic of a smallish girl that i hit with PK tonightView attachment 2582197

Sorry your sick, I hate being sick and I hate calling in to work...smoke some and maybe you'll feel better..
 

stoneslacker

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Was wondering about the coco mulch in a hempy. can I use the mulch with the big pieces? does it hold up in standing without causing root rot? could I maybe use perlite at the bottom and coco chunks for the rest? I have like 75 lbs of coco mulch to use and it sounds perfect for a hempy. It seems to retain water like rock wool. If its bigger chunks of coco mulch will the root grow through the mulch are will it have to go around? I'm doing a 3x3 Flood and using 2 gallon grow bags probably 3 per sq foot. will this work?
Are these the plastic grow bags that drain out the bottom? If so these will probably not work. The hempy system needs a reservoir, usually the bottom couple inches of a bucket, to hold water.

I personally don't have any experience using coco but I have use both the coarse and fine perlite and I definitely prefer the finer perlite for my buckets. As far as using perlite with coco, many people like to use perlite in the bottom "rez" section of their buckets then fill with coco.

Edit: I see now that you say you are using a flood and drain table? If so then the bags might work. Do you time waterings like 15 min on every hour or something like that? There is a guy named Flowamaster who uses a modified hempy system with a flood and drain type watering.
 

drdank50

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My fellow WoH friends, I'm reaching 7 weeks and with a plentiful stash, there's no real rush to harvest any buds early to ensure some quality smoke for myself on a daily basis. The question of when to flush and let your plants consume their stored energy in the leaves is something I've often thought about and debated. So, I pose the following question:

When is the best time to flush? Keeping in mind those that defoliate vs not and I'm sure a lot of strain dependent and if the buds have really filled out. Please let me know your thoughts and whether or not its really necessary. I've read some people that say the green taste is only in the leaves and that paying better attention to trimming is all that's needed.
 

stoneslacker

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My fellow WoH friends, I'm reaching 7 weeks and with a plentiful stash, there's no real rush to harvest any buds early to ensure some quality smoke for myself on a daily basis. The question of when to flush and let your plants consume their stored energy in the leaves is something I've often thought about and debated. So, I pose the following question:

When is the best time to flush? Keeping in mind those that defoliate vs not and I'm sure a lot of strain dependent and if the buds have really filled out. Please let me know your thoughts and whether or not its really necessary. I've read some people that say the green taste is only in the leaves and that paying better attention to trimming is all that's needed.
I personally flush for the last week or so. The "green" taste in weed is almost always due to improper drying and curing. By drying buds too fast or closing them in jars before they are fully dry, the water evaporation from drying and curing is what removes chlorophyll form the buds, which is what causes the green taste.

I have found that weed which is not flushed has a chemically or sometimes peppery taste. It is also harder to burn than flushed weed and will leave a black ash vs. the nice clean white ash properly flushed weed brings.

I am really becoming interested in water curing. The thought of submerging my beautiful buds in water for a week is a big stumbling block to get around but many people are touting the benefits of a water cure to improve taste and quality so I might try a small batch this harvest to experiment.
 

jela10

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My fellow WoH friends, I'm reaching 7 weeks and with a plentiful stash, there's no real rush to harvest any buds early to ensure some quality smoke for myself on a daily basis. The question of when to flush and let your plants consume their stored energy in the leaves is something I've often thought about and debated. So, I pose the following question:

When is the best time to flush? Keeping in mind those that defoliate vs not and I'm sure a lot of strain dependent and if the buds have really filled out. Please let me know your thoughts and whether or not its really necessary. I've read some people that say the green taste is only in the leaves and that paying better attention to trimming is all that's needed.
As you know Dank, that topic could be a can of worms on any other thread...but us hempy folk understand things differently. We've all, at one time or another, snipped a bud as an early taster before any flushing. Some of us accidentally break a branch and harvest that bud. Did you notice any weird taste or burn rate issues as you smoked it? As I look back, I've never said to myself "ooooh that tastes nasty". But knowing that I am using a totally non-organic hydro method with nutes to match, I get that nagging feeling I should at least feed them once with plain water. I typically shoot for a weekend chop due to my job....so the previous Mon or Tues which ever is the feeding day, I give them straight R/O water. Then as the buckets get light Thurs/Fri, I give them just enough water to keep the leaves out and away from the buds so trimming is easier. If I remember previous teaching from Dali Hempy, he claimed 1 week was enough of a flush. I'm a 5-day person. My Canna feed charts show a reduced dosage in weeks 7 & 8 so my fan leaves are already going yellow and scroungy looking when I start the flush. Earlier in my grow experiences, that "hay" smell was in everything I chopped and took time to cure out...took me a while to learn how the gauge that last feeding so there wasn't too much moisture in the buds. Now my buds start smelling like good weed the day after chop.
 

jela10

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DNA Sharksbreath in 2gal buckets at 30 days from seed (3 days since flip)...This is the Grodan Rockwool 3/4" Grow-cubes mixed with Canna coco (totally rockwool res). A lazy man's dream, I've only watered every 8 days. The rockwool res can suck up some water. I thought the rockwool would displace more water since it is denser than perlite...duuhhh. Now my 1 gallon per bucket feeds are up to 1.25 gallons before overflow. Will see how it goes in late flower. I love those fat fan leaves but I'm going to clip them out around the top...too many bud sites in their shade. I let a Trinity Kush grow out naturally and the buds under the big fans came out like albino's. Made a nice conversation peace with friends..."say man, I got some Albino Rhino, check it out!".
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Here's the BF LSD, at 36" in 5qt bucket..(27days 12/12). She needs her goodies every 1.5 days....I moved her to a separate tent under LED's.
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Txchilies

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My fellow WoH friends, I'm reaching 7 weeks and with a plentiful stash, there's no real rush to harvest any buds early to ensure some quality smoke for myself on a daily basis. The question of when to flush and let your plants consume their stored energy in the leaves is something I've often thought about and debated. So, I pose the following question:

When is the best time to flush? Keeping in mind those that defoliate vs not and I'm sure a lot of strain dependent and if the buds have really filled out. Please let me know your thoughts and whether or not its really necessary. I've read some people that say the green taste is only in the leaves and that paying better attention to trimming is all that's needed.
Harvesting, much like the dreaded discussion which nutes are better. It's personal prefference, some like to do 2 weeks and some one week, then the odd ball don't flush at all. My personal pref is to pluck major fans and flush the last week and a half. I know that when I trim there is going to be some leaf matter remaining and I try to remove the chemical taste from them.

As stated most harsh tastes and poor burns come from poorly dried and cured buds. I have seen that from my own experience of drying to fast and not have enough moisture for the cure to remove the chloraphyll, leaving the bud with that grass or hay taste.
 

Txchilies

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DNA Sharksbreath in 2gal buckets at 30 days from seed (3 days since flip)...This is the Grodan Rockwool 3/4" Grow-cubes mixed with Canna coco (totally rockwool res). A lazy man's dream, I've only watered every 8 days. The rockwool res can suck up some water. I thought the rockwool would displace more water since it is denser than perlite...duuhhh. Now my 1 gallon per bucket feeds are up to 1.25 gallons before overflow. Will see how it goes in late flower. I love those fat fan leaves but I'm going to clip them out around the top...too many bud sites in their shade. I let a Trinity Kush grow out naturally and the buds under the big fans came out like albino's. Made a nice conversation peace with friends..."say man, I got some Albino Rhino, check it out!".
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Here's the BF LSD, at 36" in 5qt bucket..(27days 12/12). She needs her goodies every 1.5 days....I moved her to a separate tent under LED's.
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Awesome job with that LSD! I do believe you are going to enjoy the final product, she is a slow grower to start but does finish nicely. I hope you got some clones. Your Sharksbreath is lookin pretty good too, like the idea of not having to water as often. I do believe I'll give your rockwool cubes a try along with the coco. Hydo store I deal with is out of stock with CANAcoco as they had there early spring run, but I got time before I need to transplant again.

 

Moebius

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Those cardboard cup things work really well for cloning. ... I had so many clones from my Aero's I had forgotten and not checked on these for a week. The CoCo in the cup was virtually dry but the cardboard remained damp. ... I think the drying has produced the super fine hairs you may be able to see in the close-up.







 

Moebius

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I wonder if cardboard can be somehow used as a grow medium. ... It would have to be able to last a grow without turning to mush. .. Maybe in a compressed pellet form? ... preferably able to be made at home from recycled material.

I know bricquettes for fuel can be made at home from soaking cardboard and pressing it. I'm thinking along those lines.

hmmm ..... I'll think on this another day.:confused: I'm sure others have considered this before.
 

HydroGp

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I wonder if cardboard can be somehow used as a grow medium. ... It would have to be able to last a grow without turning to mush. .. Maybe in a compressed pellet form? ... preferably able to be made at home from recycled material.

I know bricquettes for fuel can be made at home from soaking cardboard and pressing it. I'm thinking along those lines.

hmmm ..... I'll think on this another day.:confused: I'm sure others have considered this before.
i have piieces of cardbord in one container cause i didnt have enough perlite. it always seems wet. but solid.
 
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