World Of Hempy

psilocybindude · Jul 22, 2013

Shivaskunk said:
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Wow thats fucking awesome lol...

jela10 · Jul 22, 2013

Shivaskunk said:
Nice looking girls Bama!

Jela i like your pvc set up. Does that have pvc legs making it somewhat like a table?

Yes, 3/4" hardwood dowels slide in/out of the 3/4" PVC perfectly so I can adjust the height. Here is the link to the corner fittings....which makes this an easy project. Nice and snug, didn't need glue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GO6G4G/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

bamabudblazer · Jul 22, 2013

sky rocket said:
Pics looking great. Bamabudblazer what light(s) and nutes are you using?

I have 150w hps and 2 150w CFLs. Fox farm notes.

whocares100 · Jul 22, 2013

Great job Shiva, looks like it will be a good smoke...

Jela, Your a master...I bow to you

WattSaver · Jul 22, 2013

KidKid1950 said:
Hey guys, I plan on doing Hempy for my next grow. Growing in coco/perlite as of now. I want to do a coco hempy. So here are my questions.

-IN a 3 gallon and 5 gallon bucket, how far should the hole be up for the rez?
-Am I correct in thinking I just fill the bottom up to the hole with chunky perlite, then the rest with straight coco? Or should it be a coco/perlite mix.
-When watering, should I fill it up so I get just a bit of runoff from the hole, or enough to know I flushed out old nutrients?
- When starting from seed, should I start them as usual in a normal coco cup? Then when they become seedlings transplant them as normal? Or should I create a mini hempy in a solo cup.
- Right now I follow H3AD's coco formula with a couple aditions I made myself. Should I follow this with a coco hempy, as it's designed for coco, or should I do something completely designed for DWC hydro.

Thanks for the help.

Lets start with the hole. 2" up is fine in any sized bucket. Moe did some experiments with higher levels in a 2L with good results but it was in the middle of heavy flower, and he still needed to water frequently.

Bucket size; 5gal is just too big, unless you have a 4 month or more veg planned. Myself and a few others here, have seen very little difference in yield when using 2gal or 3.5gal buckets. Again you can get a bigger plant in a 3.5 if you are going to veg longer.

You can use just straight coir or mix it with perlite, haven't seen much difference, other than straight coir will hold more moisture. Now the rez should be perlite, hydroton, rock wool cubes, just something that won't compress much with the weight of the wet coco on top. If you are cutting your coco with 50% perlite then you could run that to the bottom if you wanted to. I currently running mixed coco with about 1/3 perlite top to bottom in my buckets, and it works just fine.

I don't think anyone can definitively say large run-off is better than minimal run-off. I'm a big run off fan, but I can't say that it's better, too many others here with great results that shoot for little to none.

You can start you plants in a coco cup like you always have. If you were looking to do a pure perlite hempy then a mini perlite hempy cup would work well. I start my plants in soil cups and transplant into coco buckets. Hempy's are an extremely flexible growing method.

Use your same coco feeding regiment.

WattSaver · Jul 22, 2013

jela10 said:
Yes, 3/4" hardwood dowels slide in/out of the 3/4" PVC perfectly so I can adjust the height. Here is the link to the corner fittings....which makes this an easy project. Nice and snug, didn't need glue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GO6G4G/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

jella, here's an example of using the tent posts. I have to admit it's not nearly as stable as legs.

The title to this photo should be "Go Big or Go Home"

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/subcools-old-school-organics/2128124d1334802985-oriahs-garden-supersoil-tga-perpetual-4-17-12-3-.jpg

lamopa · Jul 22, 2013

KidKid1950 said:
Hey guys, I plan on doing Hempy for my next grow. Growing in coco/perlite as of now. I want to do a coco hempy. So here are my questions.

Awesome, you'll be amazed how easy and forgiving it is versus soil and active hydro systems. Good luck with your grow!!

KidKid1950 said:
-IN a 3 gallon and 5 gallon bucket, how far should the hole be up for the rez?

2-3 gallons is fine. With hempy it is roughly double the soil ratio. In other words, for every gallon of hempy bucket you use you get about 2x the height vs. soil (hempy is about 1 gallon to every 2 ft. of plant at completion. Soil is 1:1)

KidKid1950 said:
-Am I correct in thinking I just fill the bottom up to the hole with chunky perlite, then the rest with straight coco? Or should it be a coco/perlite mix.

Yes to the first part - fill your perlite just past the hole. Next put in a 50-50 mix of coco/perlite about half-way up. Finally fill the rest with straight coco. You're trying to mimic the layers of soil found in mother nature. Check this thread to give you an idea how to grow in coco/perlite:
http://www.stonerhaven.com/topic/384-how-to-coco-hempy/

KidKid1950 said:
-When watering, should I fill it up so I get just a bit of runoff from the hole, or enough to know I flushed out old nutrients?

This can vary. I usually fill until it starts to run out. Your old nutes will all get flushed out at some point.

KidKid1950 said:
- When starting from seed, should I start them as usual in a normal coco cup? Then when they become seedlings transplant them as normal? Or should I create a mini hempy in a solo cup.

Start with a mini hempy in a Solo cup. Follow the same layering I mentioned above (perlite, coco/perlite, coco)

KidKid1950 said:
- Right now I follow H3AD's coco formula with a couple aditions I made myself. Should I follow this with a coco hempy, as it's designed for coco, or should I do something completely designed for DWC hydro.

I admit I am not sure what H3AD's is, exactly. If it is made for hydroponics it will work with a hempy bucket, which is a passive hydro system.

KidKid1950 said:
Thanks for the help.

No problem, good luck with your grow!!

lamopa · Jul 22, 2013

Jay_normous said:
Thanks for the quality answer... As a cheap-skate I bought some litmus paper and tested both the rain water and tap water..
By the looks of the colour im floating around..6.5 to almost 7...
Im currently doing a hempy in a milk carton and seems to be doing fine but before i make the full transition over to hempy for my 2 plants scrog i think ill get the 2 pens.. to be sure, to be sure..

Thanks again for your reply... great thread btw..!

No problem, glad I could help. Litmus paper is as good as the tester I showed you in that link. Obviously neither is as accurate as a pen, but that's OK. Just make sure you're right around 6.0. If you get a pen, shoot for 5.6 - 5.8, which is supposed to be ideal. Good luck with your grow!! :blsmoke:

jela10 · Jul 22, 2013

Shivaskunk said:
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Ahh man this so reminds me of my first wife....a real "Lazy-azz Hoe". Nice Shiva!

stoneslacker · Jul 22, 2013

Shivaskunk said:
Nice looking girls Bama!

Jela i like your pvc set up. Does that have pvc legs making it somewhat like a table? I like that idea a lot...im really wanting to do a scrog like Stones...If he can pull ridiculously huge heavy buds with 250 watts...id like to cover 32-48 sq feet of ground with nugs like that under 1600-1800 watts!...if im able at least..he is an artist.

Now that its time to plan my next one im going to do 10 scrogged or at least heavily lst girls under 1200 watts. Thinking im going to get some sterile pallets to put buckets on so that i can have srip pans to catch runoff...even though i rarely water to the point of runoff. Im going to reveg about 10 of the girls im harvesting in a seperate tent under 400 mh and if timed right about 1 month into my next flowering ill be able to have a good 50-100 cuttings...which i think i may toss in solo cups and toss em all in the flowering tent (ideas on containers for cuttings going directly into flower appreciated. That way ill have my big girl harvest and then a month or so later 50-100 5-10 gram single cola plants....which will then give me tge time to veg/train about 20 blue dream girls which will fill my 8x8 tentand run under 2400 watts for a fantastic winter grow.

Took 2 more girls down today (except bottoms) as the Skunk is quite ripe. I did however leave 1 skunk to go the 10 weeks with my 4 BD girls just to see what it does. I will be taking my biggest BD week 10 and possibly leaving one BD to go 11 weeks as an expirement.

Im sort of worried leaving my biggest BD girl as all 18 of her colas are laying horizontally on tye trellis in a big cirle pattern....I have a fan blowing from below directly onto under the canopy...just noided about mold forming with so much budmass...and also prob gonna have funny shaped colas as the foxtailing is growing upwards while the colas are laying flat...you know...fuck it im retying them up.

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That would be awesome Shiva. I would love to see a carpet of buds under your setup. Once I get out of this apartment in a couple years I'm gonna bang out a couple 600w and scrog out to my hearts content.

Shivaskunk · Jul 22, 2013

jela10 said:
Ahh man this so reminds me of my first wife....a real "Lazy-azz Hoe". Nice Shiva!

Hahaha...so too lazy to stand up properly and a bit chunky?...I hope you didnt tie her up or cut her ;-)

Thanks.

Stone im not sure that I can reproduce your results but im gonna try....coukd you imagine Watts giant fucking spears in a scrog?...just a sea of 2.5 foot tall colas

whocares100 · Jul 22, 2013

hey everyone, was just in with the girls, worked on a ventilation system this weekend with 2 fans as the scent has to travel about 15 feet, I put an intake fan at each end just to keep it flowing...

I have been having to deal with a smell issue, so I needed to get the ventilation set up...used insulated 6" ducting. Temp set up for now see if it works, then I'll tweek it...

Trying to get things growing better, too many plants of different sizes right now it's hard to manage, but now they are all under the HPS, some of them are 4 feet tall and having a hard time standing in the 2 liter bottles, may have to rethink that too...

I do have great looking plants in there right now an can't wait for some of them to get finished, everyone seems to be bulking up well with a mixture of cal-mag, dyna gro bloom and a bit of liquid karma, not the same formula all the time...oh yes and Kool Bud every 3 days....

Maybe pictures soon, getting used to the light and the plants are happy, found a male in there last week I moved from the Vault so he's out of there, the other 3 were good girls so they got to stay

Shivaskunk · Jul 22, 2013

Next time you flower you can pinch the tops as they grow to keep similar heights.

4 footers in a 2L lol...hempy really does out perform most other medium based systems..ive never seen a 4 footer in 2L of soil.

psilocybindude · Jul 23, 2013

Shivaskunk said:
ive never seen a 4 footer in 2L of soil.

I don't think i have ether but i bet if i had seen one it would have been a scrawny bitch, looking forward to some pics who...

whocares100 · Jul 23, 2013

Oh is that a dare??? Well it's so top heavy it keeps falling over..

she is lanky, but top heavy, I did not top them when they were little I wanted to see how big they would get naturally...so lesson learned

BTW she is in a 2 liter snapple bottle

sky rocket · Jul 23, 2013

whocares100 said:
Oh is that a dare??? Well it's so top heavy it keeps falling over..View attachment 2747156 she is lanky, but top heavy, I did not top them when they were little I wanted to see how big they would get naturally...so lesson learned

BTW she is in a 2 liter snapple bottle

Dam she is one long skinny chick. What light are using for her and what strain is it?

whocares100 · Jul 23, 2013

Sky she is bag seed, started under CFL and moved to the HPS about 6 weeks ago, she is lanky but the cola is nice, here's her cola

you can see some of the other 4 footers tops in there too...

lamopa · Jul 23, 2013

whocares100 said:
Oh is that a dare??? Well it's so top heavy it keeps falling over..View attachment 2747156 she is lanky, but top heavy, I did not top them when they were little I wanted to see how big they would get naturally...so lesson learned

BTW she is in a 2 liter snapple bottle

Just awesome! :eyesmoke:

psilocybindude · Jul 23, 2013

whocares100 said:
Oh is that a dare??? Well it's so top heavy it keeps falling over..View attachment 2747156 she is lanky, but top heavy, I did not top them when they were little I wanted to see how big they would get naturally...so lesson learned

BTW she is in a 2 liter snapple bottle

Damn who, that's a huge bitch! How tall was she when you switched to flower? She seems kinda lanky how many weeks of cfl did she get during flowering?

whocares100 · Jul 23, 2013

She vegged for a month, 2 weeks then I went on vacation, so 30 days veg, grew too tall for the room. She has been under the HPS 6 weeks now...she was 3 feet tall when I moved her, so she gained over 1 foot under HPS

Oh yeah she looks lanky cause I harvested a few clones from her, I did not expect her to survive this well.

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