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Javadog · Jul 31, 2013

That has driven me to reg beans too.

A friend really wanted to split a Cannaventure PurpleBerry BX, and Regs
were the only option.

I have not been burned by not getting a female, and I have played
it close, getting only two Reg beans of all the breeds that I am doing now,
except the PB.

Onward and upward,

JD

P.S. True hermies are relatively rare...and often env conditions can
cause female buds to pop bananas...so it is not clear. For my part,
I have had zero issues with fem beans, so far.

whocares100 · Jul 31, 2013

FJG I'm not sure, not that experienced yet, but I have had some plants mysteriously have seeds?

whocares100 · Jul 31, 2013

Just sitting here enjoying some of my first ever cured for 3 months smoke..Wow that hit made my ears ring, I think I'll do it again...

lamopa · Jul 31, 2013

Hey guys, this kinda goes along with what I've been saying about cellphone pics, just an FYI:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/31/4574184/5th-circuit-court-rules-no-search-warrant-needed-for-location-data

lamopa · Jul 31, 2013

FuckJeffGoldbloom said:
you guys think there is any truth to the hermie rumors about fem seeds?

such as they are higher rate for hermies and such?

is there any truth to this?

Who knows? Hermies are usually caused by unusual stress to a plant. If a seed bank says the seeds are feminized, you can only rely on what they say based upon their reputation.

FuckJeffGoldbloom · Jul 31, 2013

Yeah, i thought it was just gossip, fem. always worked out for me, i never tried reg seeds, i have 2 freebies and am afraid to pop em cuz i dont want to waste em or waste time, i only want my 4 plants lol....

MrEDuck · Jul 31, 2013

It depends on the method used to make them. If some type of stress is used to force the "father" to produce male flowers then probably. If you're using silver then no more so than the same plant's offspring if she was pollinated instead of made to produce pollen.

Txchilies · Jul 31, 2013

lamopa said:
Who knows? Hermies are usually caused by unusual stress to a plant. If a seed bank says the seeds are feminized, you can only rely on what they say based upon their reputation.

This is a misnomer, there doesn't always need to be stress for a plant to hermie. There are cases of reported Unstable genetics, and not all breeders run 100's of seeds to know if they have issues or not. It is also known that some strains will hermie for no other reason but self preservation.

FuckJeffGoldbloom · Jul 31, 2013

Txchilies said:
This is a misnomer, there doesn't always need to be stress for a plant to hermie. There are cases of reported Unstable genetics, and not all breeders run 100's of seeds to know if they have issues or not. It is also known that some strains will hermie for no other reason but self preservation.

Ok i understand, Do you know of these strains that are more likely to hermie for self preservation that you mentioned?

Txchilies · Jul 31, 2013

FuckJeffGoldbloom said:
you guys think there is any truth to the hermie rumors about fem seeds?

such as they are higher rate for hermies and such?

is there any truth to this?

Female plants inherently want to produce offspring and in the wild they will and can produce hermies if no male pollen is present to make pollination happen. It is know that the later stages of plant life if in the case of marijuana the flowering stage, hermies just happen. It also happens because of unstable genetics in the breeding process. There are strains that will hermie for no other reason than that, it doesn't have to be stressed. Though stressing a plant can and may cause it to hermie, it does fall back to how stable the genetics are for that strain as to how likely it is to hermie.

jela10 · Jul 31, 2013

Hermies can happen too when a female gets too old, when you are really pushing more weeks for the ambers. She senses the end near and pops some male flowers, since she hasn't produced any fruit. I've had a couple of grows in the past couple years where seeds appeared sparsely in cured bud. Never even saw the male flower(s). On my last "Sharksbreath" grow I found one seed...I said "one seed". Too all the seed grows since my second have been femm'ed seeds. I remember trashing 5 out of 7 plants from bag seed.....what a drag.

WattSaver · Jul 31, 2013

I've got something to ponder;

At the end of last wk I had a lower branch that succumb to the growth angle and bud weight and it snapped. I didn't want to deal with supporting it, so I cut it off. At this point all the hairs are pure white.
I cut off all the fans & hung it off a shelf in the grow rm, so it maintained the same light cycle. It immediately started to mature, and after just a few days, the hairs were turning orange, and trichs were showing up. It's like it aged nearly a wk for every light cycle. I just took a couple of test tokes, and the smell and flavor is very citrus, it tasted much better than I though it should for it's age when I cut it off.

1st photo 3 or 4 days after cut, 2nd 6 or 7 (not quite sure which day I cut it off)

I now wish that I had left the fans on the stem to see if the severed arm would pull all the nutrients out of the leaf. I may go cut another lower branch off tonight.

I'm thinking that by maintaining the light cycle it is still trying to grow and with the stress of being cut off from its natural system of receiving nutrients, that it sucked out as much life as it could from the stem in an accelerated fashion, even aging faster.

Makes me wonder if I should just chop and hang the plant in a rm with lights in cycle for a few days, to see if it pull the last bit out of the plant, for a cleaner product, or would it then age to much and push the trichs past prime. Maybe be able to cut a wk early????

IDK but I thought I share this phenomenon.

whocares100 · Jul 31, 2013

Watt an interesting thought, I have applied the same concept to flowers? Pick tulips and they finish opening?

Actually the plant is not dead when it's severed, so it would make sense it would continue on it's life cycle till it had nothing left

WattSaver · Jul 31, 2013

jela10 said:
Hermies can happen too when a female gets too old, when you are really pushing more weeks for the ambers. She senses the end near and pops some male flowers, since she hasn't produced any fruit. I've had a couple of grows in the past couple years where seeds appeared sparsely in cured bud. Never even saw the male flower(s). On my last "Sharksbreath" grow I found one seed...I said "one seed". Too all the seed grows since my second have been femm'ed seeds. I remember trashing 5 out of 7 plants from bag seed.....what a drag.

Were the seeds mature?? With the stress of pushing a plant past due the banana's would be showing near or after finish date (past wk 8 in a 8wk strain). It takes at LEAST 4wks for a seed to mature. I'm just wondering if the seeds could use cure time to mature???

whocares100 · Jul 31, 2013

Watt most seeds like tomatoes need some rest...

jela10 · Jul 31, 2013

WattSaver said:
Were the seeds mature?? With the stress of pushing a plant past due the banana's would be showing near or after finish date (past wk 8 in a 8wk strain). It takes at LEAST 4wks for a seed to mature. I'm just wondering if the seeds could use cure time to mature???

Mostly little white or light green buggars so they definitely weren't mature. Oh too, I just mentioned pushing weeks cause I read that somewhere in a Jorge Cervantez book ..not blaming my seed finds on that....I really don't push grow time...I like a buzz without couch lock. Tequila gets me couch lock when I need it.

Txchilies · Jul 31, 2013

I have an IBL grow starting, hope to get at least 45 girls out of what I started. All in 2L's coco/perlite mix going 12/12 from seed, this should prove interesting. So far 100% germ success.

808killahz · Aug 1, 2013

WattSaver said:
I've got something to ponder;

At the end of last wk I had a lower branch that succumb to the growth angle and bud weight and it snapped. I didn't want to deal with supporting it, so I cut it off. At this point all the hairs are pure white.
I cut off all the fans & hung it off a shelf in the grow rm, so it maintained the same light cycle. It immediately started to mature, and after just a few days, the hairs were turning orange, and trichs were showing up. It's like it aged nearly a wk for every light cycle. I just took a couple of test tokes, and the smell and flavor is very citrus, it tasted much better than I though it should for it's age when I cut it off.

1st photo 3 or 4 days after cut, 2nd 6 or 7 (not quite sure which day I cut it off)
View attachment 2757831 View attachment 2757832

I now wish that I had left the fans on the stem to see if the severed arm would pull all the nutrients out of the leaf. I may go cut another lower branch off tonight.

I'm thinking that by maintaining the light cycle it is still trying to grow and with the stress of being cut off from its natural system of receiving nutrients, that it sucked out as much life as it could from the stem in an accelerated fashion, even aging faster.

Makes me wonder if I should just chop and hang the plant in a rm with lights in cycle for a few days, to see if it pull the last bit out of the plant, for a cleaner product, or would it then age to much and push the trichs past prime. Maybe be able to cut a wk early????

IDK but I thought I share this phenomenon.

Just thought of something from back in the day.... I had an uncle that used to put his snapped colas in a vase of water. I used to think he was just being funny but could this help the cola to still grow and mature even after its been severed from the plant? Sorta how a bouquet of flowers does... don't know if its logical thinking or if I'm just high as shit but its food for thought... OK I'm off to bed now. Peace!

Shivaskunk · Aug 1, 2013

MrEDuck said:
Why not just use colloidal silver or silver thiosulfate to reverse females for pollen if you want to pollen chuck? It's a lot easier to tell if a female plant is worth breeding with than a male.

Well for the berry bomb x blue dream I wamt male bomb pollen in order to try to isolate the benefits of the strain that bomb seeds built their seed bank off of while keeping the bluedream traits strong (bd is supposed to be dj short blueberry x ? amd berry bomb supposed to be dj short'blueberry x bomb father) Its gonna take the sa,e amount of'time since all the berry bomb is starting from seed and ill actually prob have male'pollen much sooner tham ill have a mature flowering female to cross with my BD.

I also enjoy finding nice father traits
and to be honest im prob wromg but i feel like kids need a mommy and a daddy ;-)

..

pardon the M in place of'N im loaded and my fingers are too fat for my touchpad.

Shivaskunk · Aug 1, 2013

Oh amd looking like around 2 lbs again..bigger plants much easier trimming though. Its almost all jarred ill post a pic

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