World of seeds legend collection afghan kush special
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er0senin
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WoS got some outstanding genetics so you shouldnt bash the whole company just cause you got a bad pheno/plant.
I have a Afghan kush special and it looks very good. only thing i can note about it is it needs a lot of nutes.
Personally I cant really say I got anything bad from WoS. Decent yes. Good yes.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.
Best regards
I have a Afghan kush special and it looks very good. only thing i can note about it is it needs a lot of nutes.
Personally I cant really say I got anything bad from WoS. Decent yes. Good yes.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.
Best regards
stoned cockatoo
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Do you understand what has been done to the plant when they say "genetically modify"
stoned cockatoo
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Nope I don't belive I do I started a thread a while ago asking and as far as anyone could say for sure it's just a fancy word for selective breeding which seemed a bit lame but enlighten me if that's not the case.
I got one as an attitude freebie also. Think of running it alOng side one of there landrace afghan kush and see how it goes.
I got one as an attitude freebie also. Think of running it alOng side one of there landrace afghan kush and see how it goes.
vilify
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"The male is obtained from a determinated quantity of plants growth with a mitothic inhibitor that give us polysomic plants. "
A mitotic inhibitor is a drug that inhibits mitosis, or cell division.
Mitotic inhibitors are used in cancer treatment, because cancer cells are able to grow and eventually spread through the body (metastasize) through continuous mitotic division and so are more sensitive to inhibition of mitosis than normal cells.
not saying the strain isnt good. again, i am just 100% against any genetic modification. no matter what/how.
IMO, if you want stable genetics. breed them.
A mitotic inhibitor is a drug that inhibits mitosis, or cell division.
Mitotic inhibitors are used in cancer treatment, because cancer cells are able to grow and eventually spread through the body (metastasize) through continuous mitotic division and so are more sensitive to inhibition of mitosis than normal cells.
not saying the strain isnt good. again, i am just 100% against any genetic modification. no matter what/how.
IMO, if you want stable genetics. breed them.
dgaf757
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Id like to shed a little light on what this "GMO" plant really is...
Its a really fancy word (and a scientific explanation which most people dont understand) to say theyre feminized seeds and the process they undertook to make them (selection included). Its a "special" cut of afghan kush (clone). Of course they wouldnt stress it to make seeds cuz then youd have 50% hermies.
Thats all. If you buy fem. seeds, youre getting a "GMO" plant. Or a stressed the hell out genetic line.
(edit:the definition for the inhibitor being what they use on cancer patients isnt the same execution on the chemical processes used on plants and there are many different kinds of mitothic inhibitors)
Its a really fancy word (and a scientific explanation which most people dont understand) to say theyre feminized seeds and the process they undertook to make them (selection included). Its a "special" cut of afghan kush (clone). Of course they wouldnt stress it to make seeds cuz then youd have 50% hermies.
Thats all. If you buy fem. seeds, youre getting a "GMO" plant. Or a stressed the hell out genetic line.
(edit:the definition for the inhibitor being what they use on cancer patients isnt the same execution on the chemical processes used on plants and there are many different kinds of mitothic inhibitors)
vilify
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why would they say that it is genetically modified, instead of simply stating that it is feminized if that was the case?
it doesnt not really matter what definition i gave, they do the same thing. inhibiting cell division.
dgaf757
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They didnt say just "fem seeds" because they are trying to explain the process of how they only have fem seeds of that strain, and what the process is they did to make those fem seeds. They were trying to inform the public but quite a few people take it entirely to far when the masses dont actually understand the process theyre mentioning.
As for definitions, thats only important because others reading it are taking the definition for face value. Theyre not looking into the the entire differences between these inhibitors. Thats like saying all NSAID pain relievers all use the same chemical...which they dont.
Fem seeds are all genetically modified. They just went a step further in explanations.
As for definitions, thats only important because others reading it are taking the definition for face value. Theyre not looking into the the entire differences between these inhibitors. Thats like saying all NSAID pain relievers all use the same chemical...which they dont.
Fem seeds are all genetically modified. They just went a step further in explanations.
dgaf757
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Like I said, there are so many ways you could list them page after page after page. The process that World of Seeds and many other seed companies use is a genetic inhibitor on these female clones, to cease the flowers from the female plant from reproducing because what the breeders really want is the male pollen.
They may use colloidal silver to make the pollen balls appear, then use the inhibitors to sustain the pollen instead of the plant producing more female flowers.
Either way, colloidal silver is still a genetic modification. So it doesnt matter what chemical process they use (WoS uses inhibitors like they say) feminized seeds are all genetically modified unless hermied.
They may use colloidal silver to make the pollen balls appear, then use the inhibitors to sustain the pollen instead of the plant producing more female flowers.
Either way, colloidal silver is still a genetic modification. So it doesnt matter what chemical process they use (WoS uses inhibitors like they say) feminized seeds are all genetically modified unless hermied.
dgaf757
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Haha alright. so spraying a chemical on or drenching a plant with a substance they dont produce to change the sex of a plant thats already determinate. Hey whatever makes you feel justified.
The reason they would want to isolate the male pollen is because its being used on a mass scale to produce thousands of seeds. Now if you had a limited supply of this pollen, the best way to maximize it is to produce a lot of it. By having the "females" stop producing buds and only produce pollen would be one hell of a way.
Im not telling you what to believe or really care if you dont. When I undertook breeding a couple years ago I asked an array of seed companies by writing them and contacting them about their ways to produce guaranteed fem seeds.
If youre so sure of what you say, ask a well known breeder or company.
The reason they would want to isolate the male pollen is because its being used on a mass scale to produce thousands of seeds. Now if you had a limited supply of this pollen, the best way to maximize it is to produce a lot of it. By having the "females" stop producing buds and only produce pollen would be one hell of a way.
Im not telling you what to believe or really care if you dont. When I undertook breeding a couple years ago I asked an array of seed companies by writing them and contacting them about their ways to produce guaranteed fem seeds.
If youre so sure of what you say, ask a well known breeder or company.
vilify
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sure. you could be right about their use of inhibitors. grats.
problem is, colloidal is still not a genetic modification. GMO is far more complicated than putting some silver on a plant.
all fems are not GMO. tricking a plant into producing some pollen when it already has the ability to do so naturally is far from genetic modification.
problem is, colloidal is still not a genetic modification. GMO is far more complicated than putting some silver on a plant.
all fems are not GMO. tricking a plant into producing some pollen when it already has the ability to do so naturally is far from genetic modification.
dgaf757
Active Member
youre right as far as theyre not all made that way. theres always exceptions to the rule.
how do you know that the major seed companies dont use inhibitors? i havent seen another company describe in detail how they even make their seeds.so all of which is subject to an individuals preconcepted beliefs and what they precieve to be the way their fem seeds were created.
but what a genetic modifier is and how individuals interpret putting chemicals to un-naturally coax male pollen from a determined female plant in a process that in nature, is only done by extreme stress... a genetic modification to be as well. as you know how organic, veganic, and natural growers only use natural sources of nutrient rather than synthetic. All of which is up for debate.
The main point is that there are many seed companies using genetic modifying inhibitors to produce seeds. A genetically modified plant isnt going to perform any different than any other batch of seeds IMO and from what i and others have experienced.
how do you know that the major seed companies dont use inhibitors? i havent seen another company describe in detail how they even make their seeds.so all of which is subject to an individuals preconcepted beliefs and what they precieve to be the way their fem seeds were created.
but what a genetic modifier is and how individuals interpret putting chemicals to un-naturally coax male pollen from a determined female plant in a process that in nature, is only done by extreme stress... a genetic modification to be as well. as you know how organic, veganic, and natural growers only use natural sources of nutrient rather than synthetic. All of which is up for debate.
The main point is that there are many seed companies using genetic modifying inhibitors to produce seeds. A genetically modified plant isnt going to perform any different than any other batch of seeds IMO and from what i and others have experienced.
billybob123
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That's crazy. I am growing afghan x ww, bb x skunk, nl x skunk. They are all fantastic. Either you got some bad beans or your growing situation needs to be analyzed to find what went wrong. Sorry but I have grown these for a few years and the smoke is crazy good. Plus you haven't grown it as you said why would you even comment on something you have no knowledge of... Grow it first then comment. That's what this site is about, giving info on strains that you have actually experienced. Just an opinion. A question, what is your education level when it comes to horticulture? You seem to think you know it all but the rest of us can't , why is your opinion of a strain of cannabis that you haven't grown important? Been in the business for 18 years how bout you?