Wrinkled new growth! In coco help!

Jayman361

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20160507_074549.jpg 20160507_074534.jpg 20160507_074542.jpg Hey i am new here i recently started using coco i have 4 other plants that are all doing well just the 5th one is stressing out. The new growth is stunted and looks wrinkled.

Temps are about 85 at canopy level rh40%ish

I have been watering a little everyday with nutes... the first pic is of another healthier plant tbat has been getting the same thing as every other plant
 

Cannacat

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I'm no expert so don't take it as definite but I think you might need a bit of cal/mag, depends what nutes you're using but I wish I'd known to use cal/mag earlier in my lot. It's quite a common deficiency in coco, I can't remember all the scientific explanation but it's all online. I highly recommend you read everything you can get cos it all helps. Also, I can't speak for your plants, but mine never needed nutes everyday when they were that small, although yours don't appear burned or anything so it doesn't seem to be doing them any harm at whatever dose you're using. Might just be something to watch for.
 

Jayman361

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I'm no expert so don't take it as definite but I think you might need a bit of cal/mag, depends what nutes you're using but I wish I'd known to use cal/mag earlier in my lot. It's quite a common deficiency in coco, I can't remember all the scientific explanation but it's all online. I highly recommend you read everything you can get cos it all helps. Also, I can't speak for your plants, but mine never needed nutes everyday when they were that small, although yours don't appear burned or anything so it doesn't seem to be doing them any harm at whatever dose you're using. Might just be something to watch for.

Ya i have a lil cal mag in my regimen

Not sure what it is its annoying cuz all the other 4 are fine i was thinking heat stress? But not sure
 

NewtoMJ

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Coco should be treated like drain to waste hydro, what is your ph at? Looks like what happens when my ph goes off.
 

Jayman361

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Coco should be treated like drain to waste hydro, what is your ph at? Looks like what happens when my ph goes off.

Ya im watering daily ph is around 6 i think im phing nutes to around 5.8 but runoff seems higher does coco raise ph a lil?

Im using drops for my ph no meter. I should probably invest in one huh?

Wierd thing is none of the other plants are doing it .

I was thinking it could be because it is pretty warm in the box 85 86 with lights on and humidity is kind of lowish and i had a fan blowing on that plant more than the others. So maybe it is transpiring too fast?? I turned that fan off and just have my intake blowing across the plants...
 

NewtoMJ

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Did you wash band soak your coco before use? The runoff is Important, because it's a more accurate representation of what the plant is experiencing. The temps are slightly high, but nothing that would cause your problems.
 

NewtoMJ

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Ya im watering daily ph is around 6 i think im phing nutes to around 5.8 but runoff seems higher does coco raise ph a lil?

Im using drops for my ph no meter. I should probably invest in one huh?

Wierd thing is none of the other plants are doing it .

I was thinking it could be because it is pretty warm in the box 85 86 with lights on and humidity is kind of lowish and i had a fan blowing on that plant more than the others. So maybe it is transpiring too fast?? I turned that fan off and just have my intake blowing across the plants...
It's possible, but as long as you keep them watered it should have been fine.
 

NewtoMJ

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Ya im watering daily ph is around 6 i think im phing nutes to around 5.8 but runoff seems higher does coco raise ph a lil?

Im using drops for my ph no meter. I should probably invest in one huh?

Wierd thing is none of the other plants are doing it .

I was thinking it could be because it is pretty warm in the box 85 86 with lights on and humidity is kind of lowish and i had a fan blowing on that plant more than the others. So maybe it is transpiring too fast?? I turned that fan off and just have my intake blowing across the plants...
Also, if you started from seed then each one could be different phenos and that can be contributing to why you only have one affected.
 

Jayman361

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Did you wash band soak your coco before use? The runoff is Important, because it's a more accurate representation of what the plant is experiencing. The temps are slightly high, but nothing that would cause your problems.

Ya i phd down 3 gallons to a brick with some calmag added but the proccess was slow so i just took a hose to it and drained excess water my thoughts were i would be addjusting ph as i watered/fed plus a slurry test with straight tap water came out to like 6.5 i strained the slurry through a coffee filter and tested the water

I dont think it is ph cuz i am fedding/ watering all my plants with the same solution. Another thing to note is this happened i think right after i topped it! But i also topped all th others also
 

NewtoMJ

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Ya they were all cutting this is a charlottes web cbd strain
I guess we will find out if the fan off helps. But you should get a meter and do the slurry test on the coco from the pot, but let the coco and water sit overnight then try testing.
 

Jayman361

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I guess we will find out if the fan off helps. But you should get a meter and do the slurry test on the coco from the pot, but let the coco and water sit overnight then try testing.

Cool thanks man appreciate the help any idea where i can pick up a cheap ph meter that works so i dont have to mess with the drops anymore?

The ones at the hydro store r in the hundreds
 

Frajola

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View attachment 3675567 View attachment 3675560 View attachment 3675565 Hey i am new here i recently started using coco i have 4 other plants that are all doing well just the 5th one is stressing out. The new growth is stunted and looks wrinkled.

Temps are about 85 at canopy level rh40%ish

I have been watering a little everyday with nutes... the first pic is of another healthier plant tbat has been getting the same thing as every other plant
I ain't an expert yet, but i can see a whitish stuff over the leaves, is it growing w the leaves or just kind of dust ? You also got a burned tips I think it is due the nutrients if you r feeding then every day it may be a way too much , better less than over feeding. I over fed a sativa once and within 24 hours I saw the tips burned , like yours now. And I also see a weird leaf design pattern going on over the 2 last pics, genetics?? I've seen the same happening in my garden too, my seeds purchase wasn't that good .
peace&yield.
 

NewtoMJ

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Cool thanks man appreciate the help any idea where i can pick up a cheap ph meter that works so i dont have to mess with the drops anymore?

The ones at the hydro store r in the hundreds
Amazon. I got mine for $12. Been going strong for 4 years. It's yellow with a black cap, it should be on first page.
 

Cannacat

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Ya i have a lil cal mag in my regimen

Not sure what it is its annoying cuz all the other 4 are fine i was thinking heat stress? But not sure
Maybe isn't that then, I'm no expert myself, haven't even had my first harvest yet but the smallish, yellow new growth with the twisty ends look like what I had towards the end of veg which was fixed by cal/mag. Although I did also start using silica around the same time, awesome stuff, the plants were growing inches in hours the first few times I used it, and it also raises the pH so you have to be careful how much you use but it does mean that it it makes certain nutrients move easier through the plant as the pH of coco is naturally low. I've never used anything to adjust my pH except a drop of silica in their water a few times a week, but I do have moderately soft water from the tap. I don't have a pH meter myself and it's just good luck I've had no issues with it, I guess, but I know a lot of the old timers around here don't put much store in testing the run off, although it does kind of make sense to me. Your plant actually looks really good aside from what is obviously a recent issue and you seem like you're on it so I'm sure you'll get it sorted and do just fine, good luck man :peace:
 

Jayman361

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Maybe isn't that then, I'm no expert myself, haven't even had my first harvest yet but the smallish, yellow new growth with the twisty ends look like what I had towards the end of veg which was fixed by cal/mag. Although I did also start using silica around the same time, awesome stuff, the plants were growing inches in hours the first few times I used it, and it also raises the pH so you have to be careful how much you use but it does mean that it it makes certain nutrients move easier through the plant as the pH of coco is naturally low. I've never used anything to adjust my pH except a drop of silica in their water a few times a week, but I do have moderately soft water from the tap. I don't have a pH meter myself and it's just good luck I've had no issues with it, I guess, but I know a lot of the old timers around here don't put much store in testing the run off, although it does kind of make sense to me. Your plant actually looks really good aside from what is obviously a recent issue and you seem like you're on it so I'm sure you'll get it sorted and do just fine, good luck man :peace:
This is the rest of em maybe i will look into silica i plan on scrogging them so i will be doing a lil bending. Maybe up my calmag too?
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