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WSJ: 'FRE$H' Poll Shows Clinton and Sanders EVEN..

ttystikk

ttystikk

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budlover13 said:
I thought so.

Edit: If a kid born to American citizens can't be president, then it needs to change imo.
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I've had a lifetime to think about this, and while I respect your opinion on the matter, I disagree. The President needs to have been born in the country he would lead. I'm an American, a Patriot, yet foreign born and I still think it's the best move. It's tougher for a foreign influence to prop up an American puppet than a foreign born one, and defense is clearly on the minds of the framers. Sorry if I'm delving too deeply into the fine points.
 
budlover13

budlover13

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ttystikk said:
I've had a lifetime to think about this, and while I respect your opinion on the matter, I disagree. The President needs to have been born in the country he would lead. I'm an American, a Patriot, yet foreign born and I still think it's the best move. It's tougher for a foreign influence to prop up an American puppet than a foreign born one, and defense is clearly on the minds of the framers. Sorry if I'm delving too deeply into the fine points.
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Not at all. Now that you say that, my mind went to a scenario in which two American citizens, unhappy with their country, could move outside the country to the region of their choice. Raise a kid in radical anti-American beliefs mixed with true education and send him back to rule the country and carry out their beliefs.

Lol, sorry. High as hell today and my writer/plot developer side came out.

Edit: strawberry bannana
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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budlover13 said:
Not at all. Now that you say that, my mind went to a scenario in which two American citizens, unhappy with their country, could move outside the country to the region of their choice. Raise a kid in radical anti-American beliefs mixed with true education and send him back to rule the country and carry out their beliefs.

Lol, sorry. High as hell today and my writer/plot developer side came out.

Edit: strawberry bannana
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In my case, a six month chunk of my childhood in Saigon. Wasn't old enough to be scared then... the memories now make my blood run cold.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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god1 said:
Hey, great, we still have a shot at some good entertainment come next Nov..

Trump vs Bernie.
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schuylaar said:
The most important takeaway is that they are BOTH antiestablishment signifying that BOTH left and right seek MAJOR change.

It is now recognized we can no longer continue status quo.
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If Bernie is "anti -war" why did he vote repeatedly to level fund the Pentagon, continue foreign occupations and wars that are already
ongoing ?

If Bernie is against "big banks" didn't he vote to "raise the debt limit" which then means more REWARDING of big banks?

How come you think he's anti establishment, when he is ACTIONS indicate he is very status quo?
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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schuylaar said:
Oh he is..they're just not gonna cry uncle until the very last moment..they have advertising to sell..oligarchy to maintain.
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Lol.

Polls have Cruz and Bush beating Sanders in the general and they're not even gonna get nominated.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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ttystikk said:
I've had a lifetime to think about this, and while I respect your opinion on the matter, I disagree. The President needs to have been born in the country he would lead. I'm an American, a Patriot, yet foreign born and I still think it's the best move. It's tougher for a foreign influence to prop up an American puppet than a foreign born one, and defense is clearly on the minds of the framers. Sorry if I'm delving too deeply into the fine points.
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The consensus of early 21st-century constitutional and legal scholarship, together with relevant case law, is that "natural born" comprises all people born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, including, generally, those born in the United States, those born to U.S. citizen parents in foreign countries, and those born in other situations meeting the legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth".
 
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schuylaar

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Rob Roy said:
If Bernie is "anti -war" why did he vote repeatedly to level fund the Pentagon, continue foreign occupations and wars that are already
ongoing ?

If Bernie is against "big banks" didn't he vote to "raise the debt limit" which then means more REWARDING of big banks?

How come you think he's anti establishment, when he is ACTIONS indicate he is very status quo?
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As you know, bills are packed with compromise..his voting record exemplary.

Pro tip hint: you'll never find the perfect little boy to head up Rob Roy's version of Lord of the Flies..so you vote for the platform that most closely resembles your personal ideology..that could mean each candidate has only a few..you pick the higher number.

Still don't know what your waiting for..

 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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schuylaar said:
As you know, bills are packed with compromise..his voting record exemplary.

Pro tip hint: you'll never find the perfect little boy to head up Rob Roy's version of Lord of the Flies..so you vote for the platform that most closely resembles your personal ideology..that could mean each candidate has only a few..you pick the higher number.

Still don't know what your waiting for..

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So you are saying that in order to get any "goods and services" there is no escaping the "bads and disservices" which accompany them via the political process?

Can a person(s) delegate a right they do not have?
 
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schuylaar

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Rob Roy said:
So you are saying that in order to get any "goods and services" there is no escaping the "bads and disservices" which accompany them via the political process?

Can a person(s) delegate a right they do not have?
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So you print out platform of the two candidates..take a writing instrument of your choice and circle what steps you like best..the one with the higher number of circles gets your vote...and just in case, 2 is higher than 1 and 3 is higher than 2.

Think Chinese menu.
 
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