Wtf could have happened?

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al1993545

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Humboldt seed organization Blue dream auto
Always have great luck and good chunky buds from these seeds. 3gallon pot, promix bx, with gaia green 2-8-4 and 4-4-4 mixed sparingly slightly under recommended amount, mars hydro ts3000 set about half its wattage, plenty of distance from plants, ac infinity carbon filter and fan, room temp 75 to 78 and humidity 45% to 55% never fluctuates to far one way or the other. Consistency has been kept. Used distilled water and ph has been kept from 6.2 to 6.8. Maybe thats an issue as well. Not sure. Only issue was gnat flies, possibly fruit flies, this blue dream was growing strong af, super dark green, getting bigger everyday, had nice bud site stacks, 6 weeks from seed after buds are beginning to form boom, hit with what one would think is a cal mag deficiency, crispy brown leaves working their way up the plant. mostly mag? So I hit it with some cal mag, gets worse, hit it with Epsom salts, I don't overload either treatment, essentially I've done everything right, and still my plant has gotten worse, maybe theirs a larvae issue in the roots? I've harvested other plants in this run and everything was fine until finish. Any idea what's going on here?
 

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vostok

vostok

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you don't fix nute burn with calmag see that as an old plant issue repair your nute burnt plants by not feeding them,
a flush may work
 
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sonnyjim

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Check water PH every time. Gnats is an indication of soil surface remaining moist too long (over watering). How often do you water? Tap water is fine to use if you get the PH adjusted right and let sit for a few hours or put an air stone in it to minimize chlorine.
 
bam0813

bam0813

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I agree w ph issue. Cal and mag are two different deficiencies. The reason you keep adding calmag and its not working and getting worse is because its not a lack of cal or mag its an inability to uptake it. Caused by ph issue
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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sonnyjim said:
Check water PH every time. Gnats is an indication of soil surface remaining moist too long (over watering). How often do you water? Tap water is fine to use if you get the PH adjusted right and let sit for a few hours or put an air stone in it to minimize chlorine.
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You don’t need to let water sit. More bro science bullshit. Because chlorine readily evaporates they use chloramine as well. Let your water sit for a month and it’s still there.
 
DrOgkush

DrOgkush

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hotrodharley said:
You don’t need to let water sit. More bro science bullshit. Because chlorine readily evaporates they use chloramine as well. Let your water sit for a month and it’s still there.
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I’d let it set over night But yes. Iv seen chlorine levels drop to nothing in just hours.
but sometime when they re treat the water you can smell it out the faucet. But iv never had damage from tap. Ever. And I hose water in my back yard.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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DrOgkush said:
I’d let it set over night But yes. Iv seen chlorine levels drop to nothing in just hours.
but sometime when they re treat the water you can smell it out the faucet. But iv never had damage from tap. Ever. And I hose water in my back yard.
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Are you even reading what was written? Chloramine is not chlorine and it doesn’t dissipate. Which is exactly why it’s used.
NO NEED TO LET TAP WATER SIT!
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Chloramine is:
  • De-zincing the brass from fixtures
  • Stripping lead from older pipes — and putting it into the customer’s water
  • Deteriorating o-rings and other rubber products in faucets and toilets causing leaking and requiring replacement at an unprecedented rate
  • New copper flaking off in water
  • Accelerating scale build up in tank and tankless water heaters
Most water supply systems used to use chlorine, a well understood, extensively tested chemical for disinfection. Under a recent EPA mandate, water suppliers were required to reduce the amount of byproducts — some of which are toxic — produced when chlorine interacted with organic compounds in unclean water. Chloramine doesn’t create as many of these byproducts, or at least the ones on the EPA’s list. So, rather than cleaning up the water, most suppliers have chosen to switch to chloramine over the last several years, including LADWP.
But… chloramine is different than chlorine.
Chloramine is produced by combining chlorine with Ammonia.
In many ways chloramine is far less effective at disinfecting (2,000 and 100,000 times less for E. Coli and rotaviruses according to WHO).
Chloramine doesn’t easily dissipate like chlorine by boiling, distilling or letting stand.
Chloramine may have disinfection by products which are more toxic than chlorine and which we’re only just beginning to understand.
Chloramine, and particularly the tri-chloramine variant, is a respiratory irritant. Research suggests that aerosolizing and heating chloriminated water vaporizes it, releasing as much as 50% to 80% of dissolved solids in the water… which we do every time we shower. (CCAC)
Chloraminated water is unsafe for fish and dialysis machines.
 
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