WTF!!!, end of harvest, should i cut it down? look at these useless leaves...

resinousflowers

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its strange that the leaves have withered and died as if they have had not enough water or light.but anyway,there is no harm in trimming off the dead looking leaves and leaving the plant for a little longer to see what happens.but if the plant is dying you might aswell just chop it now.
 

tet1953

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What exactly do you mean by "flushing for a couple weeks"? With what, how much, how often?
 

solarguy

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just water, i did carbs once too... i water every 4 days with these LEDs....not as much heat so the soil stays moist longer
 

solarguy

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its strange that the leaves have withered and died as if they have had not enough water or light.but anyway,there is no harm in trimming off the dead looking leaves and leaving the plant for a little longer to see what happens.but if the plant is dying you might aswell just chop it now.[/QUOT

if the leaves are dying like this does that mean the plant is dying...
 

Total Head

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the way those leaves look i'm thinking it might be something with the roots. it almost looks as if the plant hasn't been watered in weeks. if it were a def the dying leaves wouldn't stay green. when you water how saturated to you make the soil and how long does it take to dry out?
 

brock

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looks like youve drowned your plants

happened to me once and thats what the leaves turned out like.
 

cowboylogic

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Bummer dude, looks like a dumpster fire. What do you think happened? Got pythium issues, whats the roots look like? Accidental N overdose?
 

solarguy

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not very saturated, i dont use any perlite bc i use FFOF, should i consider perlite...perhaps they got drowned below the soil top....
 

solarguy

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someone else said N overdose too who saw my plants....mmmm maybe

the thing is the other 3 plants are perfect!
 

solarguy

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im going to chop them tonight and take pictures of the roots and see what you guys think happened....
 

cowboylogic

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Maybe flush them and see if they hang on till the medium can dry out well. Got any hygorzyme?
EDIT: or what you posted above. lol
 

Hudsonvalley82

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over watered it looks like. I didn't use perlite for my first grow in flower now, and the soil moisture is back and forth, different for each plant. I had 3 fully saturated and damn near killed one last night cuz it was bone dry. My next plants I used perlite (like a shit load of it), All purpose sand, and hydroton pellets in with the soil (FF as well) and the drainage is like a dream. I tossed some moisture crystals in there that someone gave to me for free. They all drain regularly, and predictably. I would recommend using a ratio of half a gallon of perlite, two big hand fulls of sand, and one double hand scoop of hydroton pellets for every 5 gallons of FF soil. Thats what I did, and I can see a huge difference in water retention, plant stability (healthwise) and lack of fungus gnats (gnats due to the over compacted FF soil which almost becomes impermeable for water to get in or escape after time). The mix I suggested has not compressed more than an inch for about a month. The plain soiless mix compressed over three inches which just holds excess moisture against the roots for long periods of time. I am always caught in between watering too much or not enough without the drainage additives. Again, the FF with everything else I mentioned is way easier to gauge. Take my advice with a grain of salt, as I am still a noob, but I did what I did with the soil based off of solid advice on this forum. I hope that the situation will allow you to get something good from it.
 

cowboylogic

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over watered it looks like. I didn't use perlite for my first grow in flower now, and the soil moisture is back and forth, different for each plant. I had 3 fully saturated and damn near killed one last night cuz it was bone dry. My next plants I used perlite (like a shit load of it), All purpose sand, and hydroton pellets in with the soil (FF as well) and the drainage is like a dream. I tossed some moisture crystals in there that someone gave to me for free. They all drain regularly, and predictably. I would recommend using a ratio of half a gallon of perlite, two big hand fulls of sand, and one double hand scoop of hydroton pellets for every 5 gallons of FF soil. Thats what I did, and I can see a huge difference in water retention, plant stability (healthwise) and lack of fungus gnats (gnats due to the over compacted FF soil which almost becomes impermeable for water to get in or escape after time). The mix I suggested has not compressed more than an inch for about a month. The plain soiless mix compressed over three inches which just holds excess moisture against the roots for long periods of time. I am always caught in between watering too much or not enough without the drainage additives. Again, the FF with everything else I mentioned is way easier to gauge. Take my advice with a grain of salt, as I am still a noob, but I did what I did with the soil based off of solid advice on this forum. I hope that the situation will allow you to get something good from it.

Thats a good point Hudson. Its important to water slowly being sure to get a good amount of run off. Especially important with peat based mixes. Each time peat dries out the next time you water it takes a bit longer for it to absorb water. 1/4 tsp. unscented Ivory dishsoap per gallon of water every couple of weeks or so when watering helps combat this. Works the same as high dollar surfactants.
 

Hudsonvalley82

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Thats a good point Hudson. Its important to water slowly being sure to get a good amount of run off. Especially important with peat based mixes. Each time peat dries out the next time you water it takes a bit longer for it to absorb water. 1/4 tsp. unscented Ivory dishsoap per gallon of water every couple of weeks or so when watering helps combat this. Works the same as high dollar surfactants.
Hell of a tip! I will put that to use.
 
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