WTF Medical Marijuana

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DND

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I suppose where smoking marijuana comes in is that it gets you that stoned you simply push your symptoms to the side. They are still there, you just echo them out... the power of the mind and all that...
Bingo... instead of chemically telling your brain to block the pain with a pill which (some) have many side effects. This is a MM users whole argument put short and simple, weather it be for pain, anxiety, depression etc. It helps mask the pain or ailment which is the same as taking a pill.

That being said, marijuana has a long time to go before it is legalized. I think actual smoking of marijuana will never be legal, just my honest opinion. It will have to be in a pill form, inhaler, capsule etc. I know we have Marinol, but that is synthetic.
 

DND

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dont get in a huff. what i mean to say is that if you take a pain killer without pain, you are sure to get high. but if you are taking it for acute pain, it works on drowning out the pain and doesn't get you very high.

so i posit that cancer patients do not experience the same high that social smokers do. they actually get relief from pain and nausea, which mitigates some of the uphoria we expect.
After ACL replacement (football injury) they gave me some stuff and I'll tell you in a heartbeat... this stuff got me high AND took care of the pain. I loved it and was high for a month straight until I ran out. I got a refill from the doctor after all of my pain from surgery was gone and it got me the same amount of high as when I first took it for pain, no more no less. Finished the bottle and moved on with life. But that just eliminates your theory of getting "higher". Sorry.
 

skunkushybrid

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Bingo... instead of chemically telling your brain to block the pain with a pill which (some) have many side effects. This is a MM users whole argument put short and simple, weather it be for pain, anxiety, depression etc. It helps mask the pain or ailment which is the same as taking a pill.

That being said, marijuana has a long time to go before it is legalized. I think actual smoking of marijuana will never be legal, just my honest opinion. It will have to be in a pill form, inhaler, capsule etc. I know we have Marinol, but that is synthetic.
Exactly... it will come in tablet form. Now whether you're sick or not. Taking marijuana as a pill just wouldn't be the same.

Which is why we must fight. I see the future of cannabis, and it is bleak... at least for everyone of us here that enjoys growing it. If we call it a medicine, we hand them eventual control. Cannabis is much more than a medicine.
 

iblazethatkush

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Exactly... it will come in tablet form. Now whether you're sick or not. Taking marijuana as a pill just wouldn't be the same.

Which is why we must fight. I see the future of cannabis, and it is bleak... at least for everyone of us here that enjoys growing it. If we call it a medicine, we hand them eventual control. Cannabis is much more than a medicine.
Hmmm never thought about it like that b4, Skunk. That makes perfect sense, tho. The gov't and healthcare system have a monopoly on all medicines, why would marijuana be any different?
 

skunkushybrid

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Yes, which is exactly the reason they won't legalise it. Control. They have to control every aspect of our lives.

This is what causes mental illness... violent crime...

This is more than just a stand for cannabis, it's also a stand for our freedom.

If the people really want it, all we have to do is say so.
 

guttertrashsingalong

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it def helps with my muscular dystrophy without a doubt and compare it to the meds im on like morphine,valium,vicatin and the side effects are way less and it def helps with the mood where when im on morphine i tend to be less patient and moody with my family compared to when i smoke and im all smiles even more active.so pass the pipe anyday!nov 2008 michigan !
 

panheadcharlie

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I would be happy to answer your question:

I would not use weed if it wasn't for my medical condition. Did not before and if I'm blessed enough...would not after.

But, I also think it should be legal for EVERYONE but especially for the MMJ patients. It really helps them/us. :blsmoke:
well i tell u what i'm a mmj user me wife is an mmj user me if it wasnt for that i would either be locked up or dead ..and skunk your an asshole.you dont know shit about mmj when my shrink says she would perscribe it to me conditions (sadistic,diebetes,hypertension,arthritist,bi polar,mood swing)and skunk i would luv to see you in pain i bet you make some funny faces...........chuck
the state im in its not legal yet.....
 

panheadcharlie

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Yes, which is exactly the reason they won't legalise it. Control. They have to control every aspect of our lives.

This is what causes mental illness... violent crime...

This is more than just a stand for cannabis, it's also a stand for our freedom.

If the people really want it, all we have to do is say so.
skunk think about this this is a gustapo country you cant just ask they wont listen.(just like you) if you got the money then they will listen..watch the campain they dont go to La why no money. ..................mmj dont cause mental illness it helps mental illness it dont cause violent crimes it mellow a person out....i can go on but you wont listen to a thing anybody says you have your head up your butt so far they have to pipe in sun shine to see..........chuck
 

skunkushybrid

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skunk think about this this is a gustapo country you cant just ask they wont listen.(just like you) if you got the money then they will listen..watch the campain they dont go to La why no money. ..................mmj dont cause mental illness it helps mental illness it dont cause violent crimes it mellow a person out....i can go on but you wont listen to a thing anybody says you have your head up your butt so far they have to pipe in sun shine to see..........chuck
I will not have these boards downgraded in this manner any longer. I refuse point blank to continue arguing with you morons.

I said the control causes mental illness... jesus, why do I bother?

You feel that you can come in and ruin a perfectly decent conversation with stupidity? Not only that, but (it seems to me) deliberately miss my point so that you can argue with me, and insult me?

You haven't got the brains.
 

BryanG1983

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WTF, the other day this was a civil chat, now it looks like a free for all.

''Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.'' ;)
 

Lacy

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.............:-|............Debates can be fun and educational but unfortunately they usually turn into arguments.:?:cry:
well i tell u what i'm a mmj user me wife is an mmj user me if it wasnt for that i would either be locked up or dead ..and skunk your an asshole.you dont know shit about mmj when my shrink says she would perscribe it to me conditions (sadistic,diebetes,hypertension,arthritist,bi polar,mood swing)and skunk i would luv to see you in pain i bet you make some funny faces...........chuck
the state im in its not legal yet.....
 

FropHead

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I'm not sure how anyone can smoke herb and not find it's beneficial in a number of medical ways. Haven't you ever had a headache and smoked to make it go away? Insomnia? Nausea? Yeah, I like gettin stoned too, but just because some people like drinking cough syrup to get fucked up doesn't mean it's not medicinally viable too. :)
 

skunkushybrid

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I'm not sure how anyone can smoke herb and not find it's beneficial in a number of medical ways. Haven't you ever had a headache and smoked to make it go away? Insomnia? Nausea? Yeah, I like gettin stoned too, but just because some people like drinking cough syrup to get fucked up doesn't mean it's not medicinally viable too. :)
and do you also believe that you should have the freedom to choose this for yourself, without fear of incarceration? Do you believe that this should be a right for everyone?
 

FropHead

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and do you also believe that you should have the freedom to choose this for yourself, without fear of incarceration? Do you believe that this should be a right for everyone?
Yeah definitely. But first and foremost, before any recreational legalization, I think it's important that the millions of people who use it medicinally get the medicine they need. If we delay the legalization of medical marijuana because we want to be "truthful" about the fact that we all just want to get stoned, that's going to screw a lot of people that need their medicine.
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
Exactly... it will come in tablet form. Now whether you're sick or not. Taking marijuana as a pill just wouldn't be the same.

Which is why we must fight. I see the future of cannabis, and it is bleak... at least for everyone of us here that enjoys growing it. If we call it a medicine, we hand them eventual control. Cannabis is much more than a medicine.
Can you see the future or something???

If marijuana was legalized it would not be entirely turned into tablet form.

Where are you getting this from???

Hemp could be a huge industry and if it were recognized for its medicinal purposes it would lose some of the stigma attached I believe hemp farms would finally be allowed, along with more hemp seed products being produced, etc.
 

skunkushybrid

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Yeah definitely. But first and foremost, before any recreational legalization, I think it's important that the millions of people who use it medicinally get the medicine they need. If we delay the legalization of medical marijuana because we want to be "truthful" about the fact that we all just want to get stoned, that's going to screw a lot of people that need their medicine.
This won't delay anything... people will get screwed? Are you that afraid?
 
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