yellow leaves, can see spot too (with pics)

Hi all, someone gave me this plant (pics attached), it had been grown in someones bedroom, no lights etc, it looked like it was flowering so right now its under a 125w cfl (red) for 12/12. Its the only light i have :/ I have fed it 1ml per ltr once (about 1/2 ltr) of bio bloom. Its been a while since i grew, what am i doing wrong? besides not using hps etc?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Besides the lack of lumens it looks to me like it's starving to death. Try to up the nutes a tad.

Will do, I read somewhere on here someone used 20.20.20 and it helped?

Yea it looks like they are desperate for light and food. I would get them better light. Then look start to feed them...they are going to need better light to properly utilize any food you may give them...

dude do some research.....ill tell you how to save it, then you go learn how to keep it alive. go to a hydro or garden store or sometimes hardware stores will do..look for a bag that says blood/bone meal and is near the other fertilizer, also a small bag of organic dirt..mix the two together at about a 20/80 % ratio fert/dirt ..the plant is lacking nitrogen which is the most necesary nutrient during the veg. cycle....normally i would not tell anyone to use this method unless they are outdoors but in this case that is fast and easy, normally i would advise a newb to buy a product called the technaflora starter kit and follow the directions on that but since you mentioned a 20/20/20 shitty chem fert which is the simple olution i suggest another simple solution. also could use adequate light and a fan on it at all times kinda blowing indirect air not just blasting it..for light a few 100 watt daylight compact flouros will do depending on how big that is use 1-3 and keep your lights close then as soon as its looking better its probably old and large enough to flower you will need a 400 watt hps light at that time or your just wasting money and you should cut that down honestly..ok im done

oh and after mixing the fert into the new dirt you just add it right to the top of the existing dirt..if you cover the bottom most branches, and they are usually small anyway, you need to cut them off. then after adding the dirt you water, always use distilled water or water that has sat out at least two days openbut not longer than a week

Yea for food look into the techno flora. General organics is one I suggest for the newer growers as well. Experience will bring you the rest of the way brutha. Once you get a couple more harvests down it will all start to make sense.

Theres also a product called dark energy can't remember by who but its a good way to fix a nitrogen def, which you definitely have

my bad just read your already flowering it and it had been grown with no light lol...my advise, toss it, buy some beans online good genetics are key, do a little research, get the proper gear, and then try again...honestly pointless to do this hobby wrong

Thanks for all the advice, nothing i can do about the light right now, theres no way of getting rid of the heat of a decent light where it is at the moment. I gave it an average dose of baby bio to see if anything improves.

Kermit: i totally agree, when this poor girl snuffs it im doing it right.

lol ya wasnt trying to be a prick just wanted to tell it like it is..a plant that grew without a dedicated light to that height and doesnt have tight nodes and then add a N deficiency just isnt going to produce for you under a single 125 watt cfl..let me put this in perspective, I grew 5 plants under a 400 watt hps (during flower), trained them nearly perfect, didnt let them get quite tall enough they were about 16 inches when they started flowering, and i babied these things all the way through with barely the slightest mistake. now understand larger plant does not just automatically equal more bud but with my set up id say up until about two feet i would have improved my yield any taller and my light would no longer penetrate - nearly perfect run, and i wound up with about an ounce and a half per plant average...now take away the light, take away the proper growth conditions through its entire life, add the fact that it has been given random light periods so it will or has probably hermied, and take into account the plant is over sized...your looking at a quarter to a half ounce of mid grade pot on the positive side..its very likely you wind up with little wisps of straight schwag...im tellin ya, you gotta scrap it man...but if your soooo set on proving me right at least get a few more compact flouros on it!

Thank you Im trying to soak in as much info as i can, next time im using 2x250 fluros for veg, 1x400w hps flowering, biobizz all mix etc, im gonna reduce the chances of anything going wrong, i know it will but im prepared heheh

get your plants on an all you can eat buffet diet. looks like really bad N deficiency plus many other deficiencies

kermit2692 said:

take into account the plant is over sized...your looking at a quarter to a half ounce of mid grade pot on the positive side..its very likely you wind up with little wisps of straight schwag...im tellin ya, you gotta scrap it man...but if your soooo set on proving me right at least get a few more compact flouros on it!

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Late update: You were right Kermit i got just over a q, a bit better than midrange but close enough But it was a joy to smoke

Im doing it right this time, got 1 fem white widow and 1 fem NL x skunk #1, i picked strains that can take a bit of stress lol but i think i was too cautious now. Vegging under a 250w cfl with decent reflector and have my 400w cooltube and venting (closet) to set up for flowering.

The ladies are 15 days old and looking good, still not sure when to flower, i dont think plant height is really an issue the closet is 6.5ft tall so maybe i gotta think about light penetration? If its too hot in there at 400w im turning down to 250w.

Im gonna post some pics when i find the camera

good to hear you are trying with a good set up this time...hey i learned how not to grow before i learned how to grow too lol...also good to hear i was right thats always good to hear lol..... since hight is not an issue i would recomend a few things the first is to line your closet with mylar..30ish bucks a roll will last 2-4 grows...second thing is to go the lst route put holes around your final pot and when they have been in that pot a week or two so at about 8 inches tall, put a string around a node near the low middle of the plant and check with a finger how much pull the plant can handle then draw the string in around it and tie a knot basically your going for the main cola to eventually have a second tier of colas that have almost caught up and then a 3rd tier just a bit lower the idea is eventually you have a even canopy and you can remove the smallest bit of growth at the bottom right before flowering to maximize yield...this is what i have and would do in a closet...as far as height my opinion is flowering anything under about 18 inches isnt worth my time, though i have seen people pull it off. flowering anything over 3-4 feet tops is also not worth it because of lack of light penetration...for you running only two plants in a reflective closet with good temps and a nice indirect fan giving a breeze i hope....your looking at probably letting them get to about 2ft and then flowering since your only running a 250 i wouldnt go much larger...if you do a good lst and keep it real open you can go 2.5ft - 3ft

oh also the proper time to flower is anytime after the plant reaches full maturity...this is when you have preflowers AND your branches at each node are no longer parallel but staggered. many people flower before this and hey whatever but you get the best herb when the plant has reached full maturity and not forced early!

TY for the advice right now its lined with the grow sheet material but i do plan on replacing it. This might make you laugh the dimensions are about 1.5m x 45cm x 2m. Im pretty worried about heat from the hps in the narrow space even with the cooltube but even more worried about the plants, im thinking im gonna have a steep learning curve lst'ing these 2, in a sort of rectangular footprint? At the least i'll learn lol.

White Widow left, NL x Skunk #1 right

well they look nice so far....lol ya that is kind of like a crack in the wall....just will have to train them accordingly but with proper ventilation and depending on outside temps heat is always manageable!

Looks like over watering and root rot! You will get leaf drop now starting from the base up! Start you next batch asap

another moron posting without reading the thread...that plant is gone already but you must have amysd that....