Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

DIY-HP-LED

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How about the citizens and victims families crowd fund the, "Cowardly Cop Memorial" and place it, like a confederate statue, in front of the school. It will memorialize failure and cowardice of the cops of America to serve and protect. They can send delegations to lay wreaths for the death of their respect among the public. They can pay homage to their fellow officers who will now live in infamy and unemployment, no sane community would hire them. They can get jobs as body guards for republicans, since they are not sane anyway.

I think the cowardly cop memorial would be a great idea, it would have more impact than just another cold stone to replace the innocent lives stolen. Have a uniformed cop guard it 24/7, by standing in front of it in uniform and the guard rotation would include the chief of police. They can even be guides and explain to people what happened...
 

nuskool89

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It is time for releasing graphic video and stills of what the bodies of victims look like when they die from Assault Weapon wounds. Saw discussion yesterday and I believe people should be able to see the victims of our gun culture. It’s all far too sanitized overage.
My wife determined earlier that is what she would do personally.
We need to end this shit.
Once in a while scanning through theync dot com is a good reality check. Life is very cheap to some, and evil exists in every corner of the world.

Most of the videos are from other countries, but usually the livestreams/video of mass shootings are posted there too.

Albeit I imagine your idea would have the opposite effect on innocent/good people in terms of laying down their arms if they saw unfiltered violence. Anytime you want to be reminded why having the ability to defend yourself and being aware of your surroundings is so key; theync.

Also a great reason to always drive safe, and avoid road rage. Car accidents are really awful
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I might be crazy, but at least i'm not paranoid all the time. My kid is always safe at home, I have no cell phone to be bothered by, no bank accounts.. life is pretty good. I can sense BS and bad vibes from miles away, and really don't worry at all about the amount of violence in the world, or anything like that. I get that its a messed up world, and try not to judge anyone. I don't blame anyone for wanting to escape reality. Not even the shooters..
how do you live without a cellphone and a bank account? i am not a person who lives with their phone in front of their face, you don't have to look at the fucking thing 23 hours a day if you own one, some people just do...mine stays in my pocket unless i need to communicate with someone, or i'm taking a shit, and am playing solitaire or tetris. and the convenience of direct deposit and automated bill payments make a bank account a necessity to me. if you can live in this world without either, more power to you, i wouldn't bother to try...any information the government may want about me, they can get, with or without a cellphone or bank account...you ain't hiding, they just don't give a shit about you
 

CCGNZ

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Wanna bet some of these assholes have a record of using excessive force during routine traffic stops?
You're probably right , and of all the states Texas embodies and embraces the macho gun culture,how ironic that no hero existed to step up and do what was called for,which was to immediately confront the shooter,and save lives(children no less),DISGRACEFUL and PATHETIC,the NO STAR STATE.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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how do you live without a cellphone and a bank account? i am not a person who lives with their phone in front of their face, you don't have to look at the fucking thing 23 hours a day if you own one, some people just do...mine stays in my pocket unless i need to communicate with someone, or i'm taking a shit, and am playing solitaire or tetris. and the convenience of direct deposit and automated bill payments make a bank account a necessity to me. if you can live in this world without either, more power to you, i wouldn't bother to try...any information the government may want about me, they can get, with or without a cellphone or bank account...you ain't hiding, they just don't give a shit about you
Makes ya wonder how he is communicating here, sounds like he doesn't even have inside plumbing in his log cabin, shit I'm surprised he even has electricity that far in the sticks!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I kind of figured that was the future that we are in store for. Just like George orwells 1984, there will be thought police (unarmed but in full bulletproof body armor) that go around and drag people away for even thinking something that is against the rules. Snitched on by their neighbors. Your own thought's and beliefs won't even belong to you anymore..
it never occurs to people that 1984 was 38 years ago...when the fuck is this shit supposed to happen? why did my cell phone never download any of these covid tracking apps you say we all have? i keep an eye on what is installed on my phone, and there's not one thing on it i don't know about....
i've been in Chicago, NYC, Detroit, L.A., Atlanta, Chattanooga, Memphis....i never saw alleys layered in discarded "distributed needles"....
i think you need to actually get some exposure to the world and the people who live in it, quit listening to whatever right wing bullshit podcasts you're getting your "information" from, and see some of the country first hand...it isn't what you seem to think it is
 

DIY-HP-LED

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how do you live without a cellphone and a bank account? i am not a person who lives with their phone in front of their face, you don't have to look at the fucking thing 23 hours a day if you own one, some people just do...mine stays in my pocket unless i need to communicate with someone, or i'm taking a shit, and am playing solitaire or tetris. and the convenience of direct deposit and automated bill payments make a bank account a necessity to me. if you can live in this world without either, more power to you, i wouldn't bother to try...any information the government may want about me, they can get, with or without a cellphone or bank account...you ain't hiding, they just don't give a shit about you
Hunt to eat meat and roadkill is a bonus!
 

Unclebaldrick

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I kind of figured that was the future that we are in store for. Just like George orwells 1984, there will be thought police (unarmed but in full bulletproof body armor) that go around and drag people away for even thinking something that is against the rules. Snitched on by their neighbors. Your own thought's and beliefs won't even belong to you anymore..
Nah, I don't think Trump will be re-elected. But your concerns are valid - the Republicans might find someone even worse.
 

HGCC

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Makes ya wonder how he is communicating here, sounds like he doesn't even have inside plumbing in his log cabin, shit I'm surprised he even has electricity that far in the sticks!
I heard a comedy bit about how the first person you knew that got on the internet is still using that same connection. Bit was about the eclectic individuals of the 90s and where they are now.
 

CCGNZ

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how do you live without a cellphone and a bank account? i am not a person who lives with their phone in front of their face, you don't have to look at the fucking thing 23 hours a day if you own one, some people just do...mine stays in my pocket unless i need to communicate with someone, or i'm taking a shit, and am playing solitaire or tetris. and the convenience of direct deposit and automated bill payments make a bank account a necessity to me. if you can live in this world without either, more power to you, i wouldn't bother to try...any information the government may want about me, they can get, with or without a cellphone or bank account...you ain't hiding, they just don't give a shit about you
Gotta confess Roger,I also have no cell,however I do have a bank acct.,my only digital footprint is this lap top chromebook that I am communicating this thought on at a public wifi spot,McDonald's parking lot to be exact. No wifi in my single family home,just a landline and that's it.Ienjoy this forum and like you tube,wikipedia info,and use gift cards to buy shit from Amazon and to tie in w/this forum I use the chromebook and originally got it so I could buy ganja seeds. If I had this ability at home my ass would be glued in a seat watching you tube all the time which I don't have the time to do so it all works just fine,but a bank acct. is a must to get paid at work by dir.dep. and also Fred Flinstoning money under the mattress is to risky,have no idea how Drop that Sound can go w/out a bank acct. as virtually every employer pays by dir. dep.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Unlike Alcohol guns won't have the staying power like an addictive drug and the manufacture of guns and ammo is technologically dependent and a ban on firearms would work and work much more quickly than many predict. 40% of Americans own guns and most of them are concentrated with a small number of individuals. It would not be like Al Capone with gun prohibition, guns would fade from the culture except in movies and we have movies everywhere else and few guns.
you don't think so?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0373-z


Although gun ownership is associated with positive feelings about firearms within “gun culture” (Pierre, 2015; Kalesan et al., 2016; Metzl, 2019), most research comparing gun owners to non-gun owners suggests that ownership is rooted in fear. While long guns have historically been owned primarily for hunting and other recreational purposes, US surveys dating back to the 1990s have revealed that the most frequent reason for gun ownership and more specifically handgun ownership is self-protection (Cook and Ludwig, 1997; Azrael et al., 2017; Pew Research Center, 2017). Research has likewise shown that the decision to obtain a firearm is largely motivated by past victimization and/or fears of future victimization (Kleck et al., 2011; Hauser and Kleck, 2013).
A few studies have reported that handgun ownership is associated with past victimization, perceived risk of crime, and perceived ineffectiveness of police protection within low-income communities where these concerns may be congruent with real risks (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000, 2004). However, gun ownership tends to be lower in urban settings and in low-income families where there might be higher rates of violence and crime (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000). Instead, the largest demographic of gun owners in the US are white men living in rural communities who are earning more than $100K/year (Azrael et al., 2017). Mencken and Froese (2019) likewise reported that gun owners tend to have higher incomes and greater ratings of life happiness than non-owners. These findings suggest a mismatch between subjective fear and objective reality.

Fear is a powerful motivator, even when it is misplaced and unwarranted...most of the owners are rural white males earning over 100k a year...you think any of them live in bad neighborhoods? are the crips moving into the suburbs? is M13 a big problem in upscale areas poor people can't even afford to drive to? apparently the chickenshit rich white guys living in those areas think they are...
 

HGCC

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Nah, I don't think Trump will be re-elected. But your concerns are valid - the Republicans might find someone even worse.
I think a Tucker vs. DeSantis showdown is quite likely. DeSantis doesn't quite have the juice, will see how his culture wars go though. I could very much see tucks make a 2024 run, and I think he will be vastly more palatable than trump to many and would pull a lot of people back that trump lost while retaining the crazies trump brought in.

Edit: I would have put Joe Rogan out there as another likely, but he committed the cardinal sin of not going harder when faced with controversy.
 

CCGNZ

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Makes ya wonder how he is communicating here, sounds like he doesn't even have inside plumbing in his log cabin, shit I'm surprised he even has electricity that far in the sticks!
I thought I was primitive,had to call Verizon yes. as my land line can call out but is not rec. calls at the moment,in 2020 it took 3 visits by technicians to remove static from the line,first 2 guys mailed it in and problem reoccurred,3rd guy took the time to fix it right and after talking to a REAL human being and not that automated bullshit supposedly the 3rd guy who took care of the static issue is to arrive Wed. to fix my issue,the dude on the phone told me the landline infrastructure is junk and since so few people keep their landline I don't see them installing new copper wire which is sad because it is WAY more secure than a cellphone.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you don't think so?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0373-z


Although gun ownership is associated with positive feelings about firearms within “gun culture” (Pierre, 2015; Kalesan et al., 2016; Metzl, 2019), most research comparing gun owners to non-gun owners suggests that ownership is rooted in fear. While long guns have historically been owned primarily for hunting and other recreational purposes, US surveys dating back to the 1990s have revealed that the most frequent reason for gun ownership and more specifically handgun ownership is self-protection (Cook and Ludwig, 1997; Azrael et al., 2017; Pew Research Center, 2017). Research has likewise shown that the decision to obtain a firearm is largely motivated by past victimization and/or fears of future victimization (Kleck et al., 2011; Hauser and Kleck, 2013).
A few studies have reported that handgun ownership is associated with past victimization, perceived risk of crime, and perceived ineffectiveness of police protection within low-income communities where these concerns may be congruent with real risks (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000, 2004). However, gun ownership tends to be lower in urban settings and in low-income families where there might be higher rates of violence and crime (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000). Instead, the largest demographic of gun owners in the US are white men living in rural communities who are earning more than $100K/year (Azrael et al., 2017). Mencken and Froese (2019) likewise reported that gun owners tend to have higher incomes and greater ratings of life happiness than non-owners. These findings suggest a mismatch between subjective fear and objective reality.

Fear is a powerful motivator, even when it is misplaced and unwarranted...most of the owners are rural white males earning over 100k a year...you think any of them live in bad neighborhoods? are the crips moving into the suburbs? is M13 a big problem in upscale areas poor people can't even afford to drive to? apparently the chickenshit rich white guys living in those areas think they are...
As Churchill said about bombing Germany, to an amused US congress, " They say that bombing will never win the war, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try"! :wink:

Sometimes I like to troll the radicals Roger by being the gun grabber with robots and all! Scare em to Jesus and sensible regulation with nightmare scenarios of Hellfire.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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If you think assault looking rifles are bad now, wait till you see all the improvised weapons that the violent people and gangs will start making. 3d printed Rail guns, potato guns, microwave blasters, deadly blow darts, paintball guns that shoot all the endless distributed amounts of dirty needles off the sidewalk, super soaker 1000's full of liquid LSD...

You'll probably wish it was an AR instead :(
just exactly what would a super soaker full of lsd do as a weapon?...it takes at the very least 20 minutes for acid to take any kind of effect, sometimes as much as 2 hours....not a very effective weapon...rail guns are magnetic accelerators, and 3d printers aren't cheap, i know, i have 2. they're actually selling railguns now, and they're a novelty kind of item, far from lethal, unless you get hit in the eye, perhaps...
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0373-z more of a novelty, a good taser would be a better choice for self protection, and much easier to conceal...same for potato guns, big, clunky, and no where near deadly unless you happen to make some kind of phenomenal shot that hits someone in the temple or throat....
i have a blowgun, there's no fucking way you could kill someone with it. it is not a toy, it shoots steel darts, embeds them into trees so i need pliers to get them out, but pretty fucking far from deadly...microwave guns? huge, clunky, powerhogs, and far from lethal....
there is a reason handguns are regulated and none of these novelty weapons are...because handguns kill people, and this bullshit annoys them and gets you killed...
please do a little research on your own before you believe the idiocy that joe rogan and other fucking morons push all day...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you don't think so?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0373-z


Although gun ownership is associated with positive feelings about firearms within “gun culture” (Pierre, 2015; Kalesan et al., 2016; Metzl, 2019), most research comparing gun owners to non-gun owners suggests that ownership is rooted in fear. While long guns have historically been owned primarily for hunting and other recreational purposes, US surveys dating back to the 1990s have revealed that the most frequent reason for gun ownership and more specifically handgun ownership is self-protection (Cook and Ludwig, 1997; Azrael et al., 2017; Pew Research Center, 2017). Research has likewise shown that the decision to obtain a firearm is largely motivated by past victimization and/or fears of future victimization (Kleck et al., 2011; Hauser and Kleck, 2013).
A few studies have reported that handgun ownership is associated with past victimization, perceived risk of crime, and perceived ineffectiveness of police protection within low-income communities where these concerns may be congruent with real risks (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000, 2004). However, gun ownership tends to be lower in urban settings and in low-income families where there might be higher rates of violence and crime (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000). Instead, the largest demographic of gun owners in the US are white men living in rural communities who are earning more than $100K/year (Azrael et al., 2017). Mencken and Froese (2019) likewise reported that gun owners tend to have higher incomes and greater ratings of life happiness than non-owners. These findings suggest a mismatch between subjective fear and objective reality.

Fear is a powerful motivator, even when it is misplaced and unwarranted...most of the owners are rural white males earning over 100k a year...you think any of them live in bad neighborhoods? are the crips moving into the suburbs? is M13 a big problem in upscale areas poor people can't even afford to drive to? apparently the chickenshit rich white guys living in those areas think they are...
If the government passed a law that required firearms to be turned in for $100, or licensed for $100 many people would turn them in. It's a question of supply and demand, like anything else and training requirements would lower demand and drive up costs too. The cost of guns on the streets increases and it puts them out of reach of the average criminal, as the cost of gun ownership increases, the number of people will diminish. Sell it to them as a way to take guns from blacks and city folks while letting their demographic keep them, with a federal permit and license to operate, just like your car! Steadily erode the number of guns in circulation with regulations and restrictions, allow gun makers to be sued etc.

There is lot's that can and should be done inside the constitution. If you want to own a gun, then it will cost, because it imposes social costs, a sin tax, like cigarettes and alcohol. If you have to register, license your car and yourself, along with insuring it, then doing the same for guns is not unreasonable.
 

CCGNZ

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you don't think so?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0373-z


Although gun ownership is associated with positive feelings about firearms within “gun culture” (Pierre, 2015; Kalesan et al., 2016; Metzl, 2019), most research comparing gun owners to non-gun owners suggests that ownership is rooted in fear. While long guns have historically been owned primarily for hunting and other recreational purposes, US surveys dating back to the 1990s have revealed that the most frequent reason for gun ownership and more specifically handgun ownership is self-protection (Cook and Ludwig, 1997; Azrael et al., 2017; Pew Research Center, 2017). Research has likewise shown that the decision to obtain a firearm is largely motivated by past victimization and/or fears of future victimization (Kleck et al., 2011; Hauser and Kleck, 2013).
A few studies have reported that handgun ownership is associated with past victimization, perceived risk of crime, and perceived ineffectiveness of police protection within low-income communities where these concerns may be congruent with real risks (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000, 2004). However, gun ownership tends to be lower in urban settings and in low-income families where there might be higher rates of violence and crime (Vacha and McLaughlin, 2000). Instead, the largest demographic of gun owners in the US are white men living in rural communities who are earning more than $100K/year (Azrael et al., 2017). Mencken and Froese (2019) likewise reported that gun owners tend to have higher incomes and greater ratings of life happiness than non-owners. These findings suggest a mismatch between subjective fear and objective reality.

Fear is a powerful motivator, even when it is misplaced and unwarranted...most of the owners are rural white males earning over 100k a year...you think any of them live in bad neighborhoods? are the crips moving into the suburbs? is M13 a big problem in upscale areas poor people can't even afford to drive to? apparently the chickenshit rich white guys living in those areas think they are...
Solid points,also don't discount the phallic connection as owning multiple semi auto weapons mentally enlarges one's penis
 
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