Yields not turning out

JJ Bones

JJ Bones

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So I have great technique but my yields have been just terrible.

I can only sum it up to starting material but I did a nug run and still got terrible yield, good nugs too.

First run was about 680 grams of sugar trim and only got around 30 grams return

Second run was 113 grams of buds and got around 5 grams

Third run was 590 grams of sugar trim and got about 20 grams

These are terrible yields and I cannot figure out why. What do you guys think just the starting material?

I am doing slow, low purges, vacuum purging and even dewaxing (which likely takes yield)
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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Yeah those are some horrible numbers to be honest.. Are you doing BHO runs? What method are you doing? Maybe the tube is to big and i'snt contacting everything... You should be getting a lot more back. I prefer doing the long soak method. Maybe you should try that method on maybe 50g?
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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MaryJaneAdvocate said:
Long soak method? Enlighten me please, haha, I figure you are just running butane even after the color stops dripping?
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Basically what you do is you put your material in a jar or thermos, put them in the freezer along with your butane for a bit. Make 2-3 holes on the lid (one in the middle, two on the sides for venting) and then spray butane. The colder it is, the more the butane will stay liquid. You can leave it upwards of 2 hours (ive only done an hour).

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/bho-extraction/

Towards the bottom, they explain it much better than I can haha
 
M

MiG pilot

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What do you think is wrong?

WarMachine said:
You can leave it upwards of 2 hours (ive only done an hour).
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Even the short description should emphasize that a thermos or a jar filled with butane can not be put in the refrigerator and can not even bring in the room.

Filling and soaking carried out only outdoors. In the freezer butane can only be in original packaging.
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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JJ Bones said:
So I have great technique but my yields have been just terrible.

I can only sum it up to starting material but I did a nug run and still got terrible yield, good nugs too.

First run was about 680 grams of sugar trim and only got around 30 grams return

Second run was 113 grams of buds and got around 5 grams

Third run was 590 grams of sugar trim and got about 20 grams

These are terrible yields and I cannot figure out why. What do you guys think just the starting material?

I am doing slow, low purges, vacuum purging and even dewaxing (which likely takes yield)
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Might you share your techniques with us?
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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Your purge doesn't constitute your yield unless your selling tane soup (wink).

Your yield is determined by the quality of the flowers then secondly by removing any lipids. (not considering skill)

Typically on a good run of trim you can expect 10% yield waxed and less dewaxed. For nugs we see 14-21% waxed and less dewaxed.

I have also learned the better you get the more higher quality material you need because you end up making much more pristine product which gives you the lower final yield.
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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MiG pilot said:
What do you think is wrong?



Even the short description should emphasize that a thermos or a jar filled with butane can not be put in the refrigerator and can not even bring in the room.

Filling and soaking carried out only outdoors. In the freezer butane can only be in original packaging.
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Yeah maybe it sounded like I store the butane after I spray in a freezer..let me rephrase that.. You can store your butane cans in the freezer. Do not put the thermos/jar into freezer AFTER you have discharged the butane from can.

The leaving for two hours was describing how long you can keep the butane in contact with your material.. You should do all your extracts if you can outdoors but this one more so because of the amount of butane you have. Also what I do is put it in a bucket with ice and water to keep cold.
 
JJ Bones

JJ Bones

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BluJayz said:
Your purge doesn't constitute your yield unless your selling tane soup (wink).

Your yield is determined by the quality of the flowers then secondly by removing any lipids. (not considering skill)

Typically on a good run of trim you can expect 10% yield waxed and less dewaxed. For nugs we see 14-21% waxed and less dewaxed.

I have also learned the better you get the more higher quality material you need because you end up making much more pristine product which gives you the lower final yield.
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I agree...it must be the material. I'm thinking about not dewaxing to see how big of a difference it will make.

My tubes are 80-120 grams but I pack them well so it all is saturated. Use a basketball pump when done to get anything extra out. Do a hot water purge with temps staying low, then a vac purge in 100 degree container
 
blackforest

blackforest

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JJ Bones said:
I agree...it must be the material. I'm thinking about not dewaxing to see how big of a difference it will make.

My tubes are 80-120 grams but I pack them well so it all is saturated. Use a basketball pump when done to get anything extra out. Do a hot water purge with temps staying low, then a vac purge in 100 degree container
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It sounds like you are running a lot of material during your runs. Several hundred grams and only yielding a small percentage... I can't imaging you running 600+ grams of nugs and sugar trim. For the numbers you are listing I would conclude your material is not refined enough at all. You must be running pretty much everything, stems in all to get those results. Only lower nugs and tight sugar trim is good IMO. You have to get rid of the garbage. (either that, or your tube/filter/butane setup is severely flawed). What size tube, what kind of butane, how much butane are you running per oz?
 
lio lacidem

lio lacidem

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You are the second person this week who have experienced very low yields and said about dewaxing? How are you dewaxing? Winterizing in ethanol? Just trying to see if your method and other posters are same.
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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Correct me if I am wrong but the average yield takes in to consideration two washes no? GW?

If running full nugs and not breaking them down to re run them would lose a significant yield.
 
Twitch

Twitch

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lio lacidem said:
You are the second person this week who have experienced very low yields and said about dewaxing? How are you dewaxing? Winterizing in ethanol? Just trying to see if your method and other posters are same.
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when butane is at a certain temp below zero like neg 28 or some magic number, some of the waxes will collect together and you can scoop them up
i have kinda dis-missed this technique because you have to get the butane to pool and sit for a period of time while they scoop up the wax that has collected
 
lio lacidem

lio lacidem

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Twitch. said:
when butane is at a certain temp below zero like neg 28 or some magic number, some of the waxes will collect together and you can scoop them up
i have kinda dis-missed this technique because you have to get the butane to pool and sit for a period of time while they scoop up the wax that has collected
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Thats exactly how the guy earlier in the week with 5% yields was doing. Just wondering if this poster is doing it tht way as well.
 
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