your experience with Salvia?

1: Extract salvinorin for 100 grams of leaf.
2: Put extracted salvinorin onto 1 gram of leaf.
3: 100x salvia.

Yes, it's real. And a real waste of money.
 

ANC

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[video=youtube;brEvQskNgjE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEvQskNgjE[/video]
the late Terrence McKenna's ex-wife on the topic.
 

shmow52

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ive heard things about anything over 60 is just BS. When ppl claim higher they are normally using non standardized extraction methods. dont hold me to it. But exactly what daath said it really shouldnt be a problem to make unless something the one gram leaf isnt able to soak up that 100g worth of salvia extract. also ive heard if anyone would smoke over 100x they would at least lose their mind if not die. this is what i pulled together through 5 mins of google research... i too want to get to the bottom of the salvia controversy.
 

DarthD3vl

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Our 100x Organic Salvia Divinorum is the recommended level for experienced salvia user only. This is an extremely potent extract and should be treated with caution. It takes approx 100 grams of leaf to make 1 gram of 100x Extract.
Our 100x standardized extract contains 350mg of salvinorin A
The Process: Our 100% Organic Salvia is hand picked in Oaxaca, Mexico. We use a 100% natural and organic process in producing our extracts. The leaves are sun dried on both sides(rare to find this) before being sent to Europe to be extracted. The extraction process utilizes a clever alcohol wash method, not acetone and other harsh chemicals like most of our competition. This leaves the Salvia greener and fresher for the customer, and quality which is second to none.

http://www.salviamonster.com/Salvia-Divinorum-Extract/Salvia-Divinorum-Extract-100x/10-grams-of-salvia-extract-100x/prod_43.html
 

DarthD3vl

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After some reading on a few other sites, I think i've come to the conclusion that pure Salvinorin A would be equivalent to about 400x give or take some, so that would be as high as you could possibly go. theoretically I mean, whats possible could be much less, this was based on 1x = 2.5mg/g which i dont know if thats true either, feel free to disagree or correct me.

1x = 2.5 mg

above that site used used 1x = 3.5 mg

the problem seems to be understanding how much salvinorum a can be extracted from one gram of leaf.
 

shmow52

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After some reading on a few other sites, I think i've come to the conclusion that pure Salvinorin A would be equivalent to about 400x give or take some, so that would be as high as you could possibly go. theoretically I mean, whats possible could be much less, this was based on 1x = 2.5mg/g which i dont know if thats true either, feel free to disagree or correct me.
pure salvinorin A is in all salvia though... thts the active ingredient... based on purple sticky salvia. 160mg is 40x so theres is 1x= 4mg. the site you had is 1x=3.5mg
 

DarthD3vl

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pure salvinorin A is in all salvia though... thts the active ingredient... based on purple sticky salvia. 160mg is 40x so theres is 1x= 4mg. the site you had is 1x=3.5mg
yeah but the misconception is in how much pure can be extracted from one gram of leaf..
 

DarthD3vl

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most sites i can find only claim 2.5 out of there salvia. with purple sticky being the worst in my opinion i highly doubt theres is really 4mg in it, i bought some of the 60x and it didn't come close to the strength of some 30x i had from another company
 

shmow52

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yeah but the misconception is in how much pure can be extracted from one gram of leaf..
ahhhhhh, so if 2.5mg is the highest these sites are either lying about the amount of salvinorin A in the gram. or they are selling there products with lower x's (which i doubt)
how reputable is that fact?
 

DarthD3vl

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ahhhhhh, so if 2.5mg is the highest these sites are either lying about the amount of salvinorin A in the gram. or they are selling there products with lower x's (which i doubt)
how reputable is that fact?
not saying 2.5 is correct, just a common number among many sites, they could all be made up, i have no idea... but i dont think purple sticky stuff compares to any other brand i've tried, i'll never buy purple sticky again, its far weaker than most of the stuff i've bought.. i'd place there 60x at about 15 or 20x of the stuff i normally get.
 

shmow52

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not saying 2.5 is correct, just a common number among many sites, they could all be made up, i have no idea... but i dont think purple sticky stuff compares to any other brand i've tried, i'll never buy purple sticky again, its far weaker than most of the stuff i've bought.. i'd place there 60x at about 15 or 20x of the stuff i normally get.
ok, so basically, if you really want to know the X, you have to know how many mg are in it. or judge it for yourself... ty
+rep if possible
 

ANC

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active dose of salvinorum A is about 300 micrograms, Salvinorum C is about 10 times stronger still.
 

Young Lungz

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Salvia Divinorum:

My experience was one of the scariest of my life at the time, but is now a good experience. I was trying salvia for my first time. I took a hit of salvia out of a 3' bong and held it in for a minute. it tasted disgusting. i felt nothing after hitting it for about 2-3 mins. then i started laughing. the next thing i know i was in a new world and i felt as if my body was being fluffed like a deck of cards. a "stacking" feeling. then i had to solve a puzzle similar to that of wheel of fortune. once i figured out the puzzle i came out of my trip. it lasted around 11 minutes but felt much longer. i invisioned friends and family who werent in the room in my room. they were trying to help me solve the puzzle. my vision was split into 4 mini worlds and i was interacting in each one with different people doing different things. this was 60x.

After this experience i said i wouldnt do it again. I have tried it twice since then and did not feel any effects the 2nd time i did it.
 
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