i knew i was saving my first rep point for somebody special. (tear), how beautiful those babies are...(sniff sniff) they grow up soo quick! WW and NL, wow. it WILL be very hard to top that but some how i think you will manage, glad i stumbled in this thread. i used to have a golden retriever named Zeke. you should be looking at atleast a half elbow if all goes well, keep the temps below 80. and down to 58 at night. WW likes alot of Phosphorus in her flowering nutes, and if you are not already using, --molasses--.grab some out of the cupboard and mix a tiny bit into a hot hot cup of water and stir till disolved, mix with resivoir water and feed when temps are balanced. happy growing