UncleBuck
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i just know that a consumption tax will NEVER land on the wealthy and not the middle class and working poor, it's simple mathematics.
anyone who says otherwise is fundamentally deluded.
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anyone who says otherwise is fundamentally deluded.
UncleBuck
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burncream.jpg..if you want cheap labor..hire the family..the wife..do you think they'd want to work for less than minimum?
ginwilly
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UncleBuck
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so what happens when everyone bootstraps themselves up to engineers? who cleans the toilets and flips the burgers then?
someone will always have that job, and if they're working they should get a wage to have a basic living on.
now go back to chasing utopia bunnies.
UncleBuck
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there's a big difference between an employee and a neighbor kid mowing your lawn.
UncleBuck
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n = income
e = effective tax rate
as n -->
as n --> 0, e --> 100%.
good enough for ya?
UncleBuck
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you must make love to ginwilly's enormous strawman. do it. make love to the straw.
i am not in favor of the current tax code.
ginwilly
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So you agree to some jobs being more tailored to high school/college kids making spending money. Now that we are there, what happens when the kid graduates and is still in that job? Does that job now merit 15 bucks an hour simply because the worker got older? Can you see any unintended consequences by stating different levels of min wage?
Besides, sweeping my garage is a job just like sweeping schools is a job. Don't belittle something just because you wouldn't do it.
Winter Woman
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Min wage is $7.79 and a new min wage of $15 is 51.93%.
You really should take a remedial math
Edit: min wage is fla is 7.79
UncleBuck
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i'll let her speak for herself, but i think her point is that it would have to go up 50% to reach $15 because our current minimum wage is so low and does not support a basic existence.
unless, of course, you have a McDonald's McBudget and spend $20 on health care per month, work 70 hours, don't heat your house, and have a car that you can't afford to put gas in.
i could pearly imagine living like that, anjou will call us pinko comice for it.
The Average Income for Fast Food Franchise Owners.
by Rick Suttle, Demand Media
Owning a fast food franchise can take a significant investment, and many owners work 60 or 70 hours per week when starting out. Some even go on to purchase additional franchises, once they have their restaurants operating efficiently with experienced managers. Fast food franchise owners oversee all operations of their restaurants, including food preparation, customer service, inventory and storage. They also closely manage their labor and food costs to maximize profits. These franchise owners earn incomes averaging just below $50,000.
Income by Region:
In 2013, average incomes for fast food franchise owners varied somewhat among the four U.S. regions. In the South, they earned the highest incomes of $56,000 in Washington, D.C., and the lowest of $40,000 in Louisiana, according to Indeed. Those in the Midwest made $35,000 to $51,000 in South Dakota and Illinois, respectively. These franchise owners earned $32,000 to $51,000 in Hawaii and California, respectively, the lowest and highest incomes in the West. In the Northeast, they made the most in New York and the least in Maine -- $57,000 and $40,000, respectively.
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Now, let's see one of you faux entrepreneurs figure out where all this money to cover a $15 hr minimum wage is going to come from.
by Rick Suttle, Demand Media
Owning a fast food franchise can take a significant investment, and many owners work 60 or 70 hours per week when starting out. Some even go on to purchase additional franchises, once they have their restaurants operating efficiently with experienced managers. Fast food franchise owners oversee all operations of their restaurants, including food preparation, customer service, inventory and storage. They also closely manage their labor and food costs to maximize profits. These franchise owners earn incomes averaging just below $50,000.
Income by Region:
In 2013, average incomes for fast food franchise owners varied somewhat among the four U.S. regions. In the South, they earned the highest incomes of $56,000 in Washington, D.C., and the lowest of $40,000 in Louisiana, according to Indeed. Those in the Midwest made $35,000 to $51,000 in South Dakota and Illinois, respectively. These franchise owners earned $32,000 to $51,000 in Hawaii and California, respectively, the lowest and highest incomes in the West. In the Northeast, they made the most in New York and the least in Maine -- $57,000 and $40,000, respectively.
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Now, let's see one of you faux entrepreneurs figure out where all this money to cover a $15 hr minimum wage is going to come from.
No wonder they all want socialism, it's the only damn thing they're qualified for.
UncleBuck
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name one business that has ever had to close its doors to a minimum wage increase.
all i need is one example to validate your theory and hypotheticals. otherwise, without actual examples, that is all you have: theory. talking points that are so deluded that they never happen in the real world.
How are we supposed to know? Failed businesses don't generally issue press releases explaining why they're going out of business.
UncleBuck
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because it's your fucking theory.
your unsubstantiated, anecdotal, never-happens-in-the-real-world theory.
It's not my theory. That said, if a business actually did close for that reason, how would anyone ever know?
Canna Sylvan
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You are a pinko commie. The Constitution says we have a right TO life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They're not rights on their own, you have to still earn them. Don't like it, get the people to abolish the Constitution. See if something good happens.