Schuylaars Sesh - The New Wedge Issue for 2014 Mid-Terms..
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I don't think they can, because they have never increased the min wage like you are advocating here. You want a sudden jump from 7.25 to 10 or 15.
A massive sudden increase like that would surely create pandamonium.
We have historically added 50 cents or less every few years. That can be absorbed. Several dollars per hour cannot.
theexpress
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UncleBuck
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jesus christ, i have to tutor a subway sandwich maker about how minimum wage works.
80% of americans say $10.10 (indexed to inflation) is a good min wage. i agree. you can live with basic dignities at that rate if you work hard and manage your finances well.
that is a 43% increas in the minimum wage, and they would stage it over several years in incremental increases, as they have always done.
we raised the min wage by 41% incrementally from 2006-2009 and the skies did not fall. prices did not soar, as has been mathematically demonstrated over and over and over again.
i repeat my previous request: then name one where the killer was a minimum wage increase. just one.
UncleBuck
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my head on drugs looks delicious.this is ur head ...this is ur head on drugs...
I wasn't saying you are wrong. Skylard is the one wanting to make it 15 tomorrow. That would be a disaster.
10.10 indexed to inflation would be fine with me, but it won't fix the problems you seek to fix. It would simply create more minimum wage earners.
When I worked at subway, I made .75 above minimum. When I was in high school, I had a lot of 8/hour jobs, and made close to 3 dollars over minimum.
Folks who have a respectable wage now at 10 aren't going to get a bump, at least not one as big as the minimum gets.
To me this is a lose lose. Can the employers cover it, yes. Is it good for a few Americans, yes. Is it good for America, not at all.
If you start a minimum wage job, and are worth a fuck, you won't be making minimum for very long.
Minimum wage is for high school kids and losers. No one worth a goddamn makes minimum wage.
UncleBuck
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again, just too full of contradictions to even bother.
i really hope you are just trolling us. i'd hate for your stupidity to be real.
Grojak
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Name a fast food business that has had to increase what they pay almost every employee by 50% in a span of 1 year? You fail to see through you bullying techniques (which are pretty well honed if I do say so myself). I used to run a pizza joint that averaged 30% F&L (food and labor) and I was considered to be one of the best as the other 5 stored in that franchise never hit below 35-40%. The average pizza was $15 and minimum wage at the time I believe was 8.19 hr (we have the highest of any state 9.32 as of Jan 1st I believe). So on an average week I'd do about 15k in sales, if my minimum wage would have increased by 41% and the price of a pizza stayed the same on a good week I would be averaging 37% F&L but those restaurants that were already averaging 40% would spike up to almost 50%.... lets not forget electricity, lease, maintenance and other bills. It gets better when the price of that $15 pizza suddenly becomes $21 (40% increase in price to adjust to new minimum wage) people are not going to be buying as many pizza's.
Sure the folks making between 7-14.99 get a raise but those making $16 and just getting by get fucked, their employers are not going to just pay them more because minimum wage went up are they? Those people who have worked hard to get to the $16 pay scale at their job suddenly get punished because burger flippers need to make more? The logic behind this is irrational, it would make more sense to force Wal-Mart to pay back all the money their employees have received from the government because they've been to cheap to give them health benefits for the past 30 years.
A gradual increase (like Washington has done every year for the past 8 years) would be much more affective and less of a blow to our country. When I first moved to WA in 2005 min wage I think was around 7.25hr 8 years later its at 9.32hr over 2 dollars in 8 years has not really affected much, but even with our high minimum wage a 5.68hr increase would hit hard.
UncleBuck
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for $15, that pizza better be fucking huge AND good, not just one or the other.
i live in one of the priciest food markets in the world, and $15 would buy me a motherfucking feast of delicious pizza or decent chinese buffet or a proper portion of the best vietnamese food you can imagine.
i would not plan to stay in business long with a $15 pizza.
i live in one of the priciest food markets in the world, and $15 would buy me a motherfucking feast of delicious pizza or decent chinese buffet or a proper portion of the best vietnamese food you can imagine.
i would not plan to stay in business long with a $15 pizza.
nitro harley
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Winter Woman
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We'll be turned into Britain. Yuck
Winter Woman
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Some of the most typical costs and fees paid to the franchisor (or to direct affiliates of the franchisor) include:*income per site
- Initial Franchise Fees. Most franchise companies require a new franchisee to pay a one time initial fee to become a franchisee. This fee can be as low as $10,000 to $15,000 or as high as the sky--in some cases well over $100,000. The average or typical initial franchise fee for a single unit is about $20,000 or $35,000.
- Royalties or Ongoing Franchise Fees. Franchisees usually pay an ongoing franchise fee or royalty. This fee is normally expressed as a percentage of the gross revenue of the franchised business but can also be a fixed periodic amount such as $500 per month, regardless of revenue. The average or typical royalty percentage in a franchise is 5 to 6 percent of volume, but these fees can range from a small fraction of 1 to 50 percent or more of revenue, depending on the franchise.
- Marketing Fees. Franchises often require participation in a common advertising or marketing fund. This fund is frequently a national program, but it can also have a regional or local market focus. As with royalty fees, this can be a fixed contribution, but is more often a percentage of revenue in the 1 to 4 percent range.
- Required Purchases of Products or Services. Some franchisors also require that a franchisee purchase certain required products or services either from the franchisor or from affiliated entities of the franchise company. The thing to watch for in this situation is whether the pricing is competitive or not.
- Other. There are no other typical or common fees or costs, so if you see anything else in a franchise disclosure, check it very carefully to make sure it's appropriate.
per franchise site..many own multi franchise..that is actually the goal of franchise..there are very few who only own one site..i've consulted in the past with those multi id's and they have 6 or 10 or even 20 franchise multiplied by 50k per site?..you get the picture
Winter Woman
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Skylard, Somehow you always get lost on the way. How can you be that dimwitted to think that that is all it takes to make and run a business? Here are just a few more examples:
After the purchasing of the franchise the new franchisee has to purchase or rent a building not a small expense, if they rent it is probably triple net (paying for part or all of the maintenance of furnaces, air conditioners, parking lots, lighting in and out, painting, plumbing problems, snow removal, lawn service, etc.). Cash registered, point of sales software and advertising. Does the owner support local teams and charities?
Then there is the payroll service, payroll taxes, insurance on the building, insurance on the business, linen service, mat service, cleaning service (kitchen hoods have to be cleaned every month or two, grease traps have to be cleaned. And that is just what comes off the top of my head.
Don't forget personal property taxes on all those tables, chairs, cash register, ovens, mixers, office desks (have to have an office), camera system to catch the thieves, etc.
So NO, that isn't income, what it is (almost) net sales.
After the purchasing of the franchise the new franchisee has to purchase or rent a building not a small expense, if they rent it is probably triple net (paying for part or all of the maintenance of furnaces, air conditioners, parking lots, lighting in and out, painting, plumbing problems, snow removal, lawn service, etc.). Cash registered, point of sales software and advertising. Does the owner support local teams and charities?
Then there is the payroll service, payroll taxes, insurance on the building, insurance on the business, linen service, mat service, cleaning service (kitchen hoods have to be cleaned every month or two, grease traps have to be cleaned. And that is just what comes off the top of my head.
Don't forget personal property taxes on all those tables, chairs, cash register, ovens, mixers, office desks (have to have an office), camera system to catch the thieves, etc.
So NO, that isn't income, what it is (almost) net sales.
do you really think if you file 'final return' the government does not want to know why?
:http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Closing-a-Business-Checklist
Winter Woman
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You are delusional. You must be buying that Little Sleezer pizza.
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Winter Woman
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Really it doesn't seem like it.
Winter Woman
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Awww, that's so nice you posted that for Cheesy's daughter.