New York juror form includes negro

[Wavels]

Seems to me that the fallout from a couple of decades of PC thought police goose stepping through our society has precipitated rampant hypersensitivity.

I think that we all had thicker skins before the advent of PC cops, regardless of melanin content!

 

[AlGore]

I suggest you provide the citation. The Internet is full of highly-polished cant. Let us judge the quality of the source ourselves.

My issue was your claim that it was started as a racist southern thing. It was just a common term used by all. I think it lived on past it's acceptable usage by the racist south, but it was not originally considered offensive.

Of course that's not what I mean, hopefully you know better than that.

My point was that the United Negro College Fund was most likely not started by a bunch of racist southerners.

ummm, citations are on there...

And you're right, language is fluid, words themselves have very little power and have multiple meanings etc, it's their use that determines what they mean to different people. And where I grew up, people's grand parents and even parents, used Negro as a racial slur.

Let's stop arguing semantics when the point is there is nothing wrong with what is on that form, because the black community and/or leaders in America has embraced it, especially the "old guard". I personally find it about as close in ignorance as calling themselves "nigga" but I'm a tall ass white boy, primary western European with some Native America mixed in there, I have no right to an opinion on the subjects in all honestly.

Now lets talk about why that form also says "American Indian" and I'm guessing has the word (white) next to Caucasian. It's because people are stupid and they have to spell it out for them so they know which box to tick. lol.

 

[racerboy71]

Maybe the term Negro is offensive becuase during the slave days
No one owned a African American or a black person

They owned Negros

So if.slave owners happened to call their slaves at the time blacks, black would now be considered an offensive term today?
What if they called slaves cool mambo jambo? Would cool mambo jambo now be considered offensive ?
IMO, I think you're reaching a bit..

 

[ChesusRice]

So if.slave owners happened to call their slaves at the time blacks, black would now be considered an offensive term today?
What if they called slaves cool mambo jambo? Would cool mambo jambo now be considered offensive ?
IMO, I think you're reaching a bit..

Yes I think you are getting it.

 

[ginwilly]

Maybe the term Negro is offensive becuase during the slave days
No one owned a African American or a black person

They owned Negros

But in the days of slavery nobody was called African American, not even free blacks. As mentioned earlier, Negro was of Spanish or Portugal origin and was NOT derogatory. Like the term Mulatto, we have turned it into an offensive term, that was not the original intent.

 

[racerboy71]

Seems to me that the fallout from a couple of decades of PC thought police goose stepping through our society has precipitated rampant hypersensitivity.

I think that we all had thicker skins before the advent of PC cops, regardless of melanin content!

Completely agreed..
Imvho, all this PC crap is doing is raising a bunch of super sensitive kids who get offended over celebrating Halloween because it was a pagan practice instead of enjoying trick or treating and getting gobs of candy ..

 

[ChesusRice]

But in the days of slavery nobody was called African American, not even free blacks. As mentioned earlier, Negro was of Spanish or Portugal origin and was NOT derogatory. Like the term Mulatto, we have turned it into an offensive term, that was not the original intent.

At one time Nigger and Slave Owner werent derogatory terms either.

Times change

 

[ginwilly]

Hillbilly used to be defined in Websters as a northern Michigan farmer. It's now used in a derogatory intent so I get where people are coming from concerning the word negro.

I wouldn't call a northern MI farmer a hillbilly anymore than I would use the term negro. The term redneck used to refer to the color scarfs that union coal miners wore and was a status symbol being a union worker instead of non-union.

We can make any word offensive if we choose to.

 

[racerboy71]

Yes I think you are getting it.

No, I'm not.. you had to call them something, yes or no?
What makes the term you called them offensive ? I'm kinda lost here?
I understand nigger is.offensive as it was meant to be an offensive word out of the gate but I don't think negro was the ever designed to be offensive, just descriptive for a group of people..
Is the term caucasian also offensive? How about Indian?
Cracker yes, wet back yes, nigger yes, chink yes.. gook yes.. negro again no.. it was never an offensive term, in fact it was the go to inoffensive term.. surely people used nigger years ago and people who weren't racist assholes would use the term negro in its place .. how do you not grasp this?

 

[ChesusRice]

No, I'm not.. you had to call them something, yes or no?
What makes the term you called them offensive ? I'm kinda lost here?
I understand nigger is.offensive as it was meant to be an offensive word out of the gate but I don't think negro was the ever designed to be offensive, just descriptive for a group of people..
Is the term caucasian also offensive? How about Indian?
Cracker yes, wet back yes, nigger yes, chink yes.. gook yes.. negro again no.. it was never an offensive term, in fact it was the go to inoffensive term.. surely people used nigger years ago and people who weren't racist assholes would use the term negro in its place .. how do you not grasp this?

The majority of blacks think the term is offensive

You still going to defend using it?

 

[racerboy71]

Hillbilly used to be defined in Websters as a northern Michigan farmer. It's now used in a derogatory intent so I get where people are coming from concerning the word negro.

I wouldn't call a northern MI farmer a hillbilly anymore than I would use the term negro. The term redneck used to refer to the color scarfs that union coal miners wore and was a status symbol being a union worker instead of non-union.

We can make any word offensive if we choose to.

If I wanted to be a racist fuck, which I'm not, I'm sure I could come up with way more offensive words then negro ffs..

 

[racerboy71]

The majority of blacks think the term is offensive

You still going to defend using it?

How do you know blacks think its offensive ? Have you taken a pole ?
And I'm not defending it, I'm just saying I don't think it's offensive ..

 

[ginwilly]

At one time Nigger and Slave Owner werent derogatory terms either.

Times change

yep, it's all intent.

Doing homehealth I had a pt that had the same black housekeeper for 30 years. They were like family. She once told me she loved "that Negro woman" in the kitchen more than her own family. I had a knee jerk reaction to be offended for her but realized there was no malice, only love. The person in question was not offended, why should I be? Some people still identify themselves as negro, thus the box on the application.

I try my best not to offend people and respect what they want to be called by. I refuse to use the term African-American though and some day the rest of the country will too.

 

[ChesusRice]

How do you know blacks think its offensive ? Have you taken a pole ?
And I'm not defending it, I'm just saying I don't think it's offensive ..

If you dont think it is offensive then by all means next time you see a black person or persons. Say
"hey whats up negros?!"

 

[racerboy71]

And if it's so offensive, like said earlier, why the hell is there a national negro college fund?
I'd be willing to be it wasn't setup by some lilly white republican..

 

[racerboy71]

And if it's so offensive, like said earlier, why the hell is there a national negro college fund?
I'd be willing to be it wasn't setup by some lilly white republican..

 

[ginwilly]

If I wanted to be a racist fuck, which I'm not, I'm sure I could come up with way more offensive words then negro ffs..

amen

I'm offended by our governments insistence that every medical patient must be identified as either hispanic or non-hispanic no matter the race to meet meaningful use requirements. For some reason the gov gets to be offensive and it's seen as a good thing.

Seriously, if you treat medicare patients, you have to meet meaningful use measurements to get full reimbursement. So if you neglect to ask your Asian population if they are hispanic or non, your reimbursement is less. I wish the PC crowd would complain about that one for us.

 

[desert dude]

To the colorized, I disagree.
Firstly, "unborn babies" is an oxymoron.
Secondly, "innocent babies" is a blatant emotional loading of the question.
So i do not think they are the same question at all, unless the respondent has existing moral issues with abortion.
Mind you, I am not criticizing the having of moral issues, but I don't think the value judgment should so slyly be positioned as universal or default. Jmo.

While Buck is lecturing you about the PC way to discuss abortion and wagging his finger about asking loaded questions such as, "are you for or against killing innocent unborn babies", he will then proceed to ask you:

1. why you want to force women to have babies?
2. why your concern for babies begins at conception and ends at birth?
3. why you have the audacity to have an opinion sans vagina?

Both sides appeal to emotion in the discussion about abortion.

 

[Wavels]

NAACP.
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

To me, Colored sounds more archaic and obsolete than Negro.
But that is just me.
Sensibilities change, unfortunately many of us appear nowadays to be eager to take offence at the most benign words or intent.

 

[racerboy71]

I guess Frederick Patterson , the founder of uncf, was a self hating "African American ", choosing the word negro to represent his group and all..
And i also guess no " African american" would dare to take money for college from such a racist group as uncf and all right?