Of Course, America is number one, right?

minnesmoker

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Diet, exercise, entertainment, quantity of food available, quality of foods available.


When you are the home of McD's, BK, Wendy's, DQ, Taco Bell, R. J. Reynolds, Phillip Morris, Hollywood, etc., you'll get a sick society.
When you have sports on a dozen different channels, blockbuster weekends EVERY WEEKEND, 10 hour+ "work days" that for a great deal of people consist of little more than talking, eating, and fucking off on a computer (even the cashier at McD's is doing nothing but talking, walking around, eating, and fucking off on a computer,) you'll get a lazy society.
When cell phone and video game saturation almost equals literacy rates, there's a new "war on" every week, and a new "get thin fast" diet (or pill) every week, the debate goes from "we need to..." to "how the fuck do we..."

It's a bed we made, all by ourselves. Big companies are only big because we made them that way. Microsoft started as a shit stain company by a geek that liked to drink and drive (Bill Gates, arrested for DUI in Albuquerque, back when it was Micro Soft.) Google is a behemoth, it's a giant that's becoming more and more intertwined with every single aspect of life (fire detectors, now.) Pillsbury, Campbell's, General Mills, Dole: they all started as little companies. Target started out as little more than a trading post. Canned veggies were once a good thing -- because we couldn't get fresh to the shelves everywhere. Now, they're a nasty concoction that's full of high fructose corn syrup, and artificial preservatives. Fruit cups, we send to school with our kids, are less healthy and less good than the (cheaper) fruit that they are supposed to represent.
 

ginwilly

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I'm going with high fructose corn syrup and corn fillers that are in every cheap processed food in the US.
 
I'm going to say the word americans hate: Socialism. That's what needed - at least for your healthcare, for the well being of your nation, face it: Healthcare will NEVER make profit.
I have no idea why socialism ideas are so hated, it's not black and white you know.

This will remove the profit motive, which is NOT making people healthy - just giving them drugs that do not cure but are for life. That is the result of YOUR profit-hungry industry.
 

minnesmoker

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I'm going with high fructose corn syrup and corn fillers that are in every cheap processed food in the US.
What about the soy fillers? And, they aren't just in the cheap processed food. Those nice, expensive processed foods are just as loaded down.

The HFCS/Corn fillers and soy/soy byproducts/fillers are just a tip of what's caused it.


I'll be honest, back in 2009, I threw my full support behind H1N1 ... A lot less population might make for a much healthier population.
 

ginwilly

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What about the soy fillers? And, they aren't just in the cheap processed food. Those nice, expensive processed foods are just as loaded down.

The HFCS/Corn fillers and soy/soy byproducts/fillers are just a tip of what's caused it.


I'll be honest, back in 2009, I threw my full support behind H1N1 ... A lot less population might make for a much healthier population.
Yeah, processed foods of any sort here are just awful. I had been carrying an extra 20lbs for over a decade no matter what I did. I eliminated processed foods and within 2 months it was gone.
 

minnesmoker

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I'm going to say the word americans hate: Socialism. That's what needed - at least for your healthcare, for the well being of your nation, face it: Healthcare will NEVER make profit.
I have no idea why socialism ideas are so hated, it's not black and white you know.

This will remove the profit motive, which is NOT making people healthy - just giving them drugs that do not cure but are for life. That is the result of YOUR profit-hungry industry.
America is a profit-centered country, Americans are profit-driven people. You are suggesting that we remove the major draw to medical, by removing financial gain for those practicing it?


Tell me, when did socialized medicine cure AIDS/HIV, cancer, Alzheimer's, or even come up with a fix for people with closed head injuries? And, why is it that research facilities in countries with "socialized medicine" still seeks grants from the U.S.?
 

ginwilly

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We also need to point the finger at our USDA and FDA for the corruption that has overrun those entities. Corruption as well as incompetence. Check out our recommended food pyramid, holy unhealthy batman.
 

minnesmoker

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We also need to point the finger at our USDA and FDA for the corruption that has overrun those entities. Corruption as well as incompetence. Check out our recommended food pyramid, holy unhealthy batman.
Why? It's MY job to make sure the food I put into my body is healthy, will sustain me, and will not cause negative health consequences.

We can blame them, and a lot of other federal agencies -- but the blame should be more focused on us. We CHOSE to give them the power they have, and we choose to follow their recommendations. We also choose to buy less healthy prepared alternatives to cooking from scratch, for expediency's sake.
 

minnesmoker

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Nah, more like an opinionated progressive biased stoner.
You know, the American hating kind that are lazy and want government to do everything for them kind of people.
Oh, Western European settlers, circa 1600s, and their descendants/offspring . Thanks for clarifying!
 

The Coppers

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They cannot pump us full of very expensive medicine if we are not sick. It's a vicious cycle created by the elite. Big Pharm is big business.
 

The Coppers

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Meanwhile we have slipped to numbers 22, 24 and 29 in math, reading/writing, and science. No Child Left Behind? We are killing our country. I give it another 25 years tops.
 
America is a profit-centered country, Americans are profit-driven people. You are suggesting that we remove the major draw to medical, by removing financial gain for those practicing it?


Tell me, when did socialized medicine cure AIDS/HIV, cancer, Alzheimer's, or even come up with a fix for people with closed head injuries? And, why is it that research facilities in countries with "socialized medicine" still seeks grants from the U.S.?
Wow... you didn't even think before answering.
I don't want doctors to work for free, nor do I want anyone to do that. This is almost not worth replying to.

OF COURSE science need money, of course drugs cost money, of course someone profits. That was never my point, the point is that you throw money at healthcare like no other nation and have less for it. The reason is profit is the main motive, not health.

Single payer, is that easier to accept?
The main goal should be health, which DO WORK IN SCANDINAVIA. You americans NEVER do anything that work, if the idea is from some other "stupid nation".

Sorry, got a little angry. I could write pages, but I'm not sober.
 

beenthere

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Meanwhile we have slipped to numbers 22, 24 and 29 in math, reading/writing, and science. No Child Left Behind? We are killing our country. I give it another 25 years tops.
I give 10 if Hillary becomes president.

Oh, Western European settlers, circa 1600s, and their descendants/offspring . Thanks for clarifying!
Nah dude, America wasn't really around in the 1600s.
I'm talking about these America hating lazy progressives.
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minnesmoker

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Wow... you didn't even think before answering.
I don't want doctors to work for free, nor do I want anyone to do that. This is almost not worth replying to.

OF COURSE science need money, of course drugs cost money, of course someone profits. That was never my point, the point is that you throw money at healthcare like no other nation and have less for it. The reason is profit is the main motive, not health.

Single payer, is that easier to accept?
The main goal should be health, which DO WORK IN SCANDINAVIA. You americans NEVER do anything that work, if the idea is from some other "stupid nation".

Sorry, got a little angry. I could write pages, but I'm not sober.
It's not just you that's not quite sober -- it's your goal posts, also ... They just moved.

FYI: Population overload. Doesn't matter where in the world, it's just gonna' get worse. I'm ok with it, I rooted for H1N1
 

UncleBuck

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Nah, more like an opinionated progressive biased stoner.
You know, the American hating kind that are lazy and want government to do everything for them kind of people.
FINTHERE STRIKES AGAIN!

GOVERNMENT CAN NOT FIX HIS TINY PENIS.

AND THAT MAKES ME CRY EVERYDAY.


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