UncleBuck
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in amercia.
Taxes - why do i have to pay for,,,,
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twostrokenut
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Ok your allowed and expected to negotiate individual level to do hvac work on government buildings.......that would be here in the US.
twostrokenut
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Double post.....I fuckin love weed.
twostrokenut
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Canndo if this is the part you simply say ppl that willfully and knowingly deny social security should not receive benefits Iwould tend to agree....I just wouldn't agree with exile is all its kind of un-american imho
canndo
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it isn't exile, one is free to make a better deal with any other country. The fact is that one is going to have to go along with the program in every country on earth. That is the way things work.
Rob Roy
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The fact is when a person has no choice to be free from unwanted intervention, he isn't free. Pointing out that all coercive entities use the same tactics doesn't mean those tactics are justified. You've esentially made a good argument that ALL coercive governments rely on force to herd their cattle. Good doggy, you will get a place by masters fire and a biscuit.
canndo
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as I have repeated, you are absolutely free to make a better deal somewhere else.
ginwilly
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Are we free to secede and establish our own country? I think absolutely free is misnomer.
see4
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If Texas seceded, it would have been the most glorious failure in the history of all histories of trolldom. I beg you people to please try and secede, my erection would be glorious and a spectacle for all to see. Damn, my erection is quite bulbous just thinking about it.
I need some fucking pancakes.
ginwilly
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Texas is actually one of the few states with the resources to pull it off. California obviously being another. Imagine if all federal taxes paid by the citizens of California were kept in the state. High speed rails would be the norm there.
Texas would most likely bring the gulf states with them. Got oil? No,you don't but you could buy some from Texarica.
canndo
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as a state? no, but we are talking about individuals.
canndo
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Imagine their illegal alien problem THEN! half the people would be needed simply to guard the boarders. Also, I don't think they they could feed themselves should the othe states boycott them. Ca could, plus it has the gas reserves it would need.
Antidisestablishmentarian
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Texas has tons of farmland and plenty of cattle. We would be just fine. And I think we wouldn't need half our population to control our borders from illegal immigration. 13 million people? Fuck that.
And technically, we can't secede, but we can become 5 different states.
And technically, we can't secede, but we can become 5 different states.
canndo
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So you guys are going to live on beef.
Cotton, corn, grain sorghum, and wheat account for a large part of the total crop receipts. In 2011, cotton contributed about 30.1 percent of the crop total; corn, 14.1 percent; grain sorghum, 5 percent; and wheat, 6.2 percent. Hay, cottonseed, vegetables, peanuts, rice, and soybeans are other important cash crops.
Cotton .... yum.
ginwilly
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As an individual can I form my own country on my property and not adhere to big brother? Not sure what you are implying here.
Free to move to another oppressive regime isn't my idea of freedom.
ginwilly
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They could actually trade with neighboring states (or in this case countries).
What you are saying is that if Texas formed it's own country, the rest of us would put up sanctions like we do to North Korea. What does that tell you how you think of the rest of the country. A bit oppressive wouldn't you say?
Antidisestablishmentarian
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They can change what they are growing you know... And why not live on cattle? We can also import other things.
I dont want Texas to split or secede, but to say we can't do it... Shit... Texans will find a way just to spite you.
canndo
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Actually ginwilly, I think it would be saying more about what the other states think of Texas. Yes, you could actually trade with neighboring states except that I think that sort of thing isn't allowed. Texas would have it's own money I suppose, , maybe you could bring back confederate money. Texas would no longer be protected by the U.S., I think the rest of the country would demand that they pay up for the roads and such that we paid. We would want all of our nukes back, and Texas would have to pay for patroling it's shoreline. I don't know, maybe it would be a good thing, maybe the rest of the country would get some real profit from Texas while at the same time eliminating them from congress and the possibility of inhereting yet anotherr president from that state.
That alone might be worth the trouble.
canndo
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texas should do as it pleases, they have been whining about parting from the union since the last time. Let them go. Charge them for all currently federal land there, all unpaid infrastructure, and we could get a tariff from them as well when they export to the U.S.
canndo
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No. you can't do that, The U.S. doesn't like it, and neither do many of it's people, including me. Imagine all the problems with forming your own country inside of another, treaties, rights, borders, ownership itself, infrastructure. The U.S. recognizes your freedom to leave, it has no say in where you go or what other countries' laws are.