God will not return until we admit that we cannot love him just as he cannot love us.

Greatest I am

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God will not return until weadmit that we cannot love him just as he cannot love us.


That would kill our freewill.

If we collectively admitted thattruth, we could create the end times and elect a new God the way Jesus did viareinterpretation of the law.

St. James said that faithmust be shown by works and deeds to be true faith.

I say that those sameconditions apply to love. Love must be shown by works and deeds to be truelove. Love must be expressed this way from both parties as reciprocity is asign of love and is also a high moral tenet. Love to be a true love must beshown somehow and God cannot ruin man’s free will by doing so.

Do you agree?


Part two.

We all have a system ofgovernance that we follow be we believer or atheist. Believers will name theirsystem God non-believers will be (name of political party). We all give the mentaltag or name of (Ideal) to whatever God or political system we all follow.

In terms of moral leadership,even atheists and the weirdest fundamental will have an Ideal in governancethat he will follow. We all love our Gods as an Ideal. So to speak.

If the bible and St. Jamesare correct, not only is it impossible for God to love us, --- it also meansthat none of us can have a reciprocal relationship with our various belovedGods, and that means we cannot ever truly love God.

Do you agree?

If you agreed, then what are weall going to do about that truth? Are we ready to stop living the lie that wecan have a relationship with a God who cannot ever do so?

If so, should we elect a new andreal live God figurehead to love? That is what Jesus said would happen.

I will have to choose thehonest route and admit that this clip is speaking truth and that God has brokenhis covenant with man and all the Abrahamic based religions. He did so becausehe had no choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

Jesus knew this and that iswhy he took the right hand of God. He was to be God’s last taste of sacrificialblood sacrifice. This is how Final Judgement is returned to men and women.
All we need do is step up andtake it as Jesus did.

Are you ready for this? Romans8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to theimage of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Are you ready to name yourGod, --- “I am”, and mean yourself?

If so, and a large enough numberare, then world peace and prosperity is at hand. More importantly, --- we allgain the personal relationship we crave with God. All you need do is choose nowas the end time, do the deeds and works required to unify the rest of the elect,and you are there and so would be God.

Regards
DL


 

NorthofEngland

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If there is a God - He worships us.
Our technological leaps have surpassed his powers and left him spluttering at the side of the road, breathing our dusr
thinking 'What the fuck was that...?'.

We invented God to help explain things that we did not understand.
The more we did understand, the less we needed God.
God started to become obsolete with the industrial revolution
and Neil Armstrong transported a metaphorical coffin into the 'heavens' in 1969
when God became officially unnecessary (dead).

RIP God
It wasn't nice knowing you.
We created you in OUR image
then pretended it happened the other way around.

HUMANISM is GOD
The collective potential of mankind
but escaping the age old reliance on mythical and supernatural inventions
(the metaphysical comfort foods of the spiritually needy and misguided)
is the first step towards the abolition of spiritual slavery.
 

Doer

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I agree, you are a person who is quite needy and fearful to believe any of that literal stuff about religions.

And so. Don't agree. God is us. We made it up to symbolize the very best for ourselves. We made it up to have a final unquestionable answer to WHY???? We use it 1) to raise children and 2) armies and 3) to guilt trip adults for money for 1 and 2. That is it.

So, to say there is no God is not correct either.
 

bird mcbride

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Fact is, if mankind relies on God to relieve the world of a surely dying planet we WILL go the way of all pre-historic creatures:) We (mankind) were givin' a brain that can do so many things that are not natural with nature. With it(a brain) mankind will survive this planet, Earth. There is now proof that the planet Mars did have Earth like features in the planets distant past. We(mankind) showed up on this planet, earth an estimated 200000 years ago. Just keep one thing in mind however: all things are God givin'. Mankind can only innovate, only the creator can invent.
 

bird mcbride

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Let's say you were God. If all your potplants died off cause you smoked them would you resurrect the old ones, or just plant new ones:)
 

Greatest I am

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If there is a God - He worships us.
Our technological leaps have surpassed his powers and left him spluttering at the side of the road, breathing our dusr
thinking 'What the fuck was that...?'.

We invented God to help explain things that we did not understand.
The more we did understand, the less we needed God.
God started to become obsolete with the industrial revolution
and Neil Armstrong transported a metaphorical coffin into the 'heavens' in 1969
when God became officially unnecessary (dead).

RIP God
It wasn't nice knowing you.
We created you in OUR image
then pretended it happened the other way around.

HUMANISM is GOD
The collective potential of mankind
but escaping the age old reliance on mythical and supernatural inventions
(the metaphysical comfort foods of the spiritually needy and misguided)
is the first step towards the abolition of spiritual slavery.
I basically agree, and this O P, if understood says that it is time to invent a new and better God for these times.

Regards
DL
 

Greatest I am

Active Member
I agree, you are a person who is quite needy and fearful to believe any of that literal stuff about religions.

And so. Don't agree. God is us. We made it up to symbolize the very best for ourselves. We made it up to have a final unquestionable answer to WHY???? We use it 1) to raise children and 2) armies and 3) to guilt trip adults for money for 1 and 2. That is it.

So, to say there is no God is not correct either.
I think I agree with you but not if that "you are a person who is quite needy and fearful to believe any of that literal stuff about religions." as form.

Literal reading of scriptures is for fools. Some wisdom can be gleaned though from some few parts of the bible.

Regard
DL
 

Greatest I am

Active Member
Fact is, if mankind relies on God to relieve the world of a surely dying planet we WILL go the way of all pre-historic creatures:) We (mankind) were givin' a brain that can do so many things that are not natural with nature. With it(a brain) mankind will survive this planet, Earth. There is now proof that the planet Mars did have Earth like features in the planets distant past. We(mankind) showed up on this planet, earth an estimated 200000 years ago. Just keep one thing in mind however: all things are God givin'. Mankind can only innovate, only the creator can invent.
Thanks for preaching without speaking to the issues of he O P.

You have just shown us all what Christian manners are all about.

Regard
DL
 

Doer

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I think I agree with you but not if that "you are a person who is quite needy and fearful to believe any of that literal stuff about religions." as form.

Literal reading of scriptures is for fools. Some wisdom can be gleaned though from some few parts of the bible.

Regard
DL
Well then. Was all that suppose to be sarcasm? You are the OP. It all sound like you take something literally.

God returns? From where? Where did IT go? Why the gender? Why do you surmise there is even such a thing?

That is what you are taking literally. Why is there anything beyond a high purpose Self? To me, SELF is right there beyond the, inner nattering of stupid thought dialog.
 

Doer

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Fact is, if mankind relies on God to relieve the world of a surely dying planet we WILL go the way of all pre-historic creatures:) We (mankind) were givin' a brain that can do so many things that are not natural with nature. With it(a brain) mankind will survive this planet, Earth. There is now proof that the planet Mars did have Earth like features in the planets distant past. We(mankind) showed up on this planet, earth an estimated 200000 years ago. Just keep one thing in mind however: all things are God givin'. Mankind can only innovate, only the creator can invent.
That is the main part that is all made up. That the main, unproven assumption for power over man.
 

Sand4x105

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Regards
DL
Your logic is the most abstract convoluted tangent fragment out of whack read I have ever....

I feel for you are reaching out and want to help...
To find peace:
Throw your bible away...
Meditate and or pray for two hours per day...
every day for 40 days...
After your 80th hour of prayer
Stay prayer focus for the next 20 hours straight....

Only then will you find peace...
Make sense?

Neither does any of your BS....
 

bird mcbride

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That is the main part that is all made up. That the main, unproven assumption for power over man.
I do not believe that the creator(God) has any intentions(or the ability) of intervening in any way. Mankind certainly did not invent all, it merely inovated. Mankind is still wondering where the hell it came from. And quite frankly, so am I. Just wait here for a couple thousand years and I'll be back with a pic to prove it all:) It still leaves me thinking that's there has to be some kinda machanic behind all this.
 

Doer

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Your logic is the most abstract convoluted tangent fragment out of whack read I have ever....

I feel for you are reaching out and want to help...
To find peace:
Throw your bible away...
Meditate and or pray for two hours per day...
every day for 40 days...
After your 80th hour of prayer
Stay prayer focus for the next 20 hours straight....

Only then will you find peace...
Make sense?

Neither does any of your BS....
Actually that made total sense to me. I may (if I don't forget) constantly meditate and remember Word or Name, as you may call it. The weird part of Religions to me is that it is all in there. Seek and you will find.

Know Self. (not your natter mind) 2 hrs a day is the usual goal for formal meditation, but constantly is the Grail.
 

bird mcbride

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Smoke a doobie and thank the creator for the mj plant:) It's the easy way out. When I am in dire straights, I stop for a minute, pray to god for help, then lift the engine outta the bike. I find that works. And if successful I smile and say thank-you god. Believe me, it's all phycological, but it works. The next time you are in court just say,"god gave me the mj your honour." That should put you in line for a pension:)
 

Doer

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And why do you say there is God? All of that is Self, seems to me. What is there to thank, but Self?
 

Doer

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So, I just read that again. Weird.

God comes back only when we admit there is no love?

That is Satanism, son.
 

NorthofEngland

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I agree, you are a person who is quite needy and fearful to believe any of that literal stuff about religions.

And so. Don't agree. God is us. We made it up to symbolize the very best for ourselves. We made it up to have a final unquestionable answer to WHY???? We use it 1) to raise children and 2) armies and 3) to guilt trip adults for money for 1 and 2. That is it.

So, to say there is no God is not correct either.
Yet again you have managed to misunderstand my post completely.
If I ever intend that a post of mine should be simple enough for you to comprehend, Doer, I'll be sure make it monosyllabic.
Go back to preaching the Gospel of the Right to the uninterested and apolitical types who are the only ones that cannot disprove your statements in three sentences or less.
 
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