Obama says Weed is no more harmful than Alchohol

[racerboy71]

Dont vote for anti marijuana candidates

And not only are you stupid now you are getting absurd. You bitch now
You are going to bitch when it does get legal as well. Becuase the laws will change to where you still cannot legally sell. not without licensing and regulations that you cannot afford or comply with

Where to start with this mess..
Firstly, just answer my question.. what is going to happen to any state that has legalized on a state level where it's still illegally on a federal level if the president actually decides to do his job and enforce federal law ..
Why can't you answer that one simple question?

 

[racerboy71]

My mayor doesnt enforce jay walking in my town .. but I walk over to town next to mine and get a Tix for jay walking in that town...
who on earth would say my mayor legalized jay walking when I all he is doing is not enforcing the law ? What happens when we get a new mayor and he / she suddenly starts handing out Tix again ?
So much for that legal jay walking ..

 

[schuylaar]

We could have fighting and killing over cigarettes if we made it a felony to sell a cigarette or smoke one, so we legalize them. If all you do is try to find a police or a military solution to the problem, a lot of people die and it doesn't solve the problem.

~ Bill Clinton

 

[ChesusRice]

So what does that have to do with anything? I'm sure you must be implying because government agencies are involved then the tomatoes people buy in a super market are magically better then the ones I grow in my back yard? Is that what you're trying to tell me?

You really think tomatoes and weed are equivalent?

And yes if the President decides to "do his job" and enforce weed laws then he could shut it down. but he isnt doing that is he?

Dont bitch about progress and this is PROGRESS in ending prohibition.
As far as selling weed, you act like you have something to lose if everyone can legally grow their own pot and sales were prohibited

 

[NLXSK1]

Sorry, I just don't trust a damn thing that comes out of Obama's mouth.
I know first hand what Obama's Justice Dept has done to people lives here in California.

He said the same kinds of things during his campaign, history proves he cannot be trusted.

He was against gay marriage before he evolved. I dont trust him farther than I could throw his fat assed wife...

 

[beenthere]

Real easy
You grow it
You use it

Wow such a complicated plan.
No goverment involvement, No cops

I can sure tell you've had zero experience with pot and Johnny law.

And what's the legal limit for possession in this brilliant plan of yours, one joint?

 

[echelon1k1]

We could have fighting and killing over cigarettes if we made it a felony to sell a cigarette or smoke one, so we legalize them. If all you do is try to find a police or a military solution to the problem, a lot of people die and it doesn't solve the problem.

~ Bill Clinton

Too little, too late... He had the opportunity to make history - considering the views he's expressed since leaving the presidency

 

[ChesusRice]

I can sure tell you've had zero experience with pot and Johnny law.

And what's the legal limit for possession in this brilliant plan of yours, one joint?

As much as you want
no 6 plant limit or limits on how many mature plants you can grow
And if you want to give it away. Go ahead no one is stopping you

 

[racerboy71]

You really think tomatoes and weed are equivalent?

And yes if the President decides to "do his job" and enforce weed laws then he could shut it down. but he isnt doing that is he?

Dont bitch about progress and this is PROGRESS in ending prohibition.
As far as selling weed, you act like you have something to lose if everyone can legally grow their own pot and sales were prohibited

I keep saying this, and you keep ducking it, and I'll keep asking it..
OK, so mighty Obama hasn't enforced the law, what happens when the next person elected to oval office does?
How is one person doing his job and one not progress? How is that sustainable as a long term plan if it's simply up to the will of the person in office to enforce a law or not?

why are you against legalization on a full scale, including rescheduling and would rather simply wish every elected official opts to not enforce the laws of the land?
Simple honest question ..

 

[racerboy71]

You really think tomatoes and weed are equivalent?

And yes if the President decides to "do his job" and enforce weed laws then he could shut it down. but he isnt doing that is he?

Dont bitch about progress and this is PROGRESS in ending prohibition.
As far as selling weed, you act like you have something to lose if everyone can legally grow their own pot and sales were prohibited

No, but you're the one who said some people don't grow their own tomatoes and buy then at the grocery store because tomatoes at the grocery store are approved by the USDA and fda and are magically better then garden grown tomatoes, not me..

 

[beenthere]

As much as you want
no 6 plant limit or limits on how many mature plants you can grow
And if you want to give it away. Go ahead no one is stopping you

Like I said, you have zero experience with pot and cops, zero. I could shoot so many holes in your no limit possession and legal to give away law it's not funny, worse yet, the cops will.

 

[ChesusRice]

I keep saying this, and you keep ducking it, and I'll keep asking it..
OK, so mighty Obama hasn't enforced the law, what happens when the next person elected to oval office does?
How is one person doing his job and one not progress? How is that sustainable as a long term plan if it's simply up to the will of the person in office to enforce a law or not?

why are you against legalization on a full scale, including rescheduling and would rather simply wish every elected official opts to not enforce the laws of the land?
Simple honest question ..

because full scale legalization is not the quickest way to end prohibition in regards to marijuana and it will lead to more regulations than we already have in the production of alchohol,tobacco and drugs
In effect it will be the RE illegalization of weed.

You wont be able to afford the licensing, regulations and USDA, FDA and treasury department audits, fees and inspections

 

[ChesusRice]

Like I said, you have zero experience with pot and cops, zero. I could shoot so many holes in your no limit possession and legal to give away law it's not funny, worse yet, the cops will.

What would they bust me for?
Legal to grow and posses
Illegal to sell

If i am not selling it

What would they bust me for? If you are only here for personal attacks with nothing of substance be gone.

 

[racerboy71]

because full scale legalization is not the quickest way to end prohibition in regards to marijuana and it will lead to more regulations than we already have in the production of alchohol,tobacco and drugs
In effect it will be the RE illegalization of weed.

You wont be able to afford the licensing, regulations and USDA, FDA and treasury department audits, fees and inspections

Why can't it be like brewing your own beer? I can go down the basement and brew as much beer as I like .. so long as I don't try and open Racerboy's basement tavern I'll be in the clear?
Why can't full legalization include the right to grow it in my back yard next to my tomatoes?

 

[beenthere]

And yes if the President decides to "do his job" and enforce weed laws then he could shut it down. but he isnt doing that is he?

Cheezy, you can keep repeating this line of BS till you're blue in the face, it's just not true.
If Obama kept his campaign promise, the feds would stay out of the MMJ laws completely, that means in any capacity.
You wouldn't have to use your little caveats defending Obama and his federal assisted raids, now would you?

 

[ChesusRice]

Why can't it be like brewing your own beer? I can go down the basement and brew as much beer as I like .. so long as I don't try and open Racerboy's basement tavern I'll be in the clear?
Why can't full legalization include the right to grow it in my back yard next to my tomatoes?

That would be AWESOME
And I have brewed my own beer. But did you know that for decades this was against the federal law ? It wasnt until 1978 that you could brew your own beer

Did you also know it is illegal even with a MEDICAL card to grow within 25 miles of a dispensary in Arizona where medical marijuana is legal?

 

[schuylaar]

Too little, too late... He had the opportunity to make history - considering the views he's expressed since leaving the presidency

http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20140127,00.html

 

[beenthere]

I keep saying this, and you keep ducking it, and I'll keep asking it..
OK, so mighty Obama hasn't enforced the law, what happens when the next person elected to oval office does?
.

Racer makes a great point. Either Obama is with us or against us, I believe he's afraid to take a real stand.
Giving lip service and turning his head is not leadership, it's chicken shit politics.

 

[racerboy71]

Racer makes a great point. Either Obama is with us or against us, I believe he's afraid to take a real stand.
Giving lip service and turning his head is not leadership, it's chicken shit politics.

I just don't understand how cheesus doesn't see this.. not enforcing a law as an elected official isn't real progress..
While of.course I, as a cannabis user, loves the fact that he's not enforcing the law, I have to wonder what happens when after his four years is up and another guy / girl with a completely different agenda is elected and he / she starts enforcing those laws..

I for one won't be happy to there is no law to enforce..

 

[beenthere]

Please cite this Mythical quote that Obama made to stay out of MMJ laws completly

Do it now Right fucking now. Or admit you are a lying sack of shit with nothing to contribute

That's it Cheezy, he hasn't. He dances around the subject insinuating he's for leaving state MMJ laws to the state.
I underlined another one of your famous caveats for ya that proves Obama is too chicken shit to take a stand.
Now, show me in your OP article where he's staying out of MMJ completely, you're falling for the same line of shit he always gives us.