Forbes Article ---- Epic Fail of Obama Care?

Walnut

New Member
My former career involved chemistry.
I thought mine would. What did you do?

I have a job - won't go into a lot of detail there - with a major energy company in the eastern united states. In other words, I'm involved with big coal.

Most of what I do is sugar coat reports and tests. Our company paid millions of dollars to a hydrodynamics firm to calculate the best location along streams for positioning of specific equipment that generates runoff.

The EPA measures the stream for certain things at a certain distance down stream. Well within a stream there is the capability for anything that is put into it to either spread out across the entire stream, or to concentrate in a "jet" of water running narrowly down stream, and thus not spreading out widely.

This can result in lower levels showing up in the tests than are actually introduced to the stream. It means they can pollute more.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Good job, I look back and wish I had gone to pt school. Instead I work for "big coal" and have to make a lot of the things they do appear to be not so bad. Pays well.
When it was apparent we would have a health care bill I was recruited into informatics to combat meaningful use. I'm presently doing clinical analyst for physicians offices which pay almost double what I made as a staff PT. Same situation as yours, I make good money holding my nose while working. I get to explain to the doctor why he was reimbursed at a lower rate because his front office staff didn't click whether that asian was hispanic or non-hispanic or he let his nurse send too high a percentage of his e-prescribed under her log instead of his. The practice of medicine is so much more than pt/provider anymore.

It's golden handcuffs I'm trying break from. I feel your pain. My megamillions plan hasn't panned out yet, so I'm still searching.

If I had your background and wanted to get in the medical field I would recommend pharmacist. PT is fun and rewarding though, I will never give that up completely.
 

Walnut

New Member
When it was apparent we would have a health care bill I was recruited into informatics to combat meaningful use. I'm presently doing clinical analyst for physicians offices which pay almost double what I made as a staff PT. Same situation as yours, I make good money holding my nose while working. I get to explain to the doctor why he was reimbursed at a lower rate because his front office staff didn't click whether that asian was hispanic or non-hispanic or he let his nurse send too high a percentage of his e-prescribed under her log instead of his. The practice of medicine is so much more than pt/provider anymore.

It's golden handcuffs I'm trying break from. I feel your pain. My megamillions plan hasn't panned out yet, so I'm still searching.

If I had your background and wanted to get in the medical field I would recommend pharmacist. PT is fun and rewarding though, I will never give that up completely.
Something like 95% of pharmacists, who don't open up their own pharmacy make between 90 and 110k. Not that this is chump change, but you are basically locked into a salary. The only other rout is to go academic, research and publish. Get good and you are suddenly writing text books, and cashing large royalty checks for a very long time. The only problem for me here is my disgust with the idea of working in academia.

The idea of owning a pharmacy would be appealing. But I happen to have a friend who does just that. He, his father and grandfather were all pharmacists, and own a pharmacy. They have very loyal customers. But the aca has been written in such a way as to put them out of business.

Walmart and humana cut a deal to give prescriptions at Walmart a lower co-pay. This is illegal. But who is going to take Walmart to court? The aca changed the law in such a way to allow this. Now there is only a nominal fine. This fine would be substantial to an individual I'm sure, but to Walmart, and the business they generate by having a lower co pay, it's nothing.

In many ways I fear the aca is nothing more than the democrats once again doing something counter to their rhetoric, backing big business. This time it's in the health services industry.

The democrats crack me up. The give all this lip service to the poor, take money from the middle class, and give the filthy rich a pass... All while blaming the republicans for doing just that.

Neither party is unfriendly to big business, but the democrats are the ones who speak out of both sides of their mouth on the issue.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
As much as liked to lay ALL the blame on democrats, our fellow citizens demanded SOMETHING!! and supported the ACA in spite of what they were being told by us in the industry. You'll meet those people here if you stick around The republican ideas for central planning were almost as puke worthy.

I'm starting to accept that this is the country we live in now, but my acceptance is coming kicking and screaming. I just wish the "party of tolerance" would only force their way on each other, not the rest of us too. I agreed with them when they complained about moral majority trying to make them live in ways that they thought best, I was taken aback when they pulled it themselves as soon as they were in power.
 

Walnut

New Member
As much as liked to lay ALL the blame on democrats, our fellow citizens demanded SOMETHING!! and supported the ACA in spite of what they were being told by us in the industry. You'll meet those people here if you stick around The republican ideas for central planning were almost as puke worthy.

I'm starting to accept that this is the country we live in now, but my acceptance is coming kicking and screaming. I just wish the "party of tolerance" would only force their way on each other, not the rest of us too. I agreed with them when they complained about moral majority trying to make them live in ways that they thought best, I was taken aback when they pulled it themselves as soon as they were in power.
I've come to accept that when one party is mad at the other, it isn't because of what the other party is doing, it's because the other party is doing it.

They both do the same things.

When Obama got elected by running against bush, then kept doing all the things he ran against, it was the lightbulb moment for me.

Remember what a big issue gitmo was in '08? It is still there.

Rendition, still doing it.

War, still fighting.

Patriot act, still good law.

The bail out, Obama did his own, even bigger.

I just can't in good conscious support a party who had a kkk member elected to the united states senate as recently as the 2000's.

But in reality there is no important difference between the parties. They are both only interested in maintaining power.

If we had a healthy government I wouldn't be supportive of him, but with the way things are I wish Ron Paul could get into office.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul would have had a stroke or "accident" within the first year. I cringed at times over what he said, but I know he would have made a sincere effort to contract instead of expand. I'm disappointed his son has turned into such a good politician, I had hopes for young Paul.

More than anything I want to be left alone, neither party seems too interested in that right now. Between the moral majority and politically correct, it seems there is a fight over who gets to tell me what to do.

My favorite present democrat hypocrisy is the same logic that supports abortion that I agree with, that it's her body alone and no one else has a right to tell her what to do with it, but then they claim we have the right to tell her what insurance coverage she must have.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I've come to accept that when one party is mad at the other, it isn't because of what the other party is doing, it's because the other party is doing it.

They both do the same things.

When Obama got elected by running against bush, then kept doing all the things he ran against, it was the lightbulb moment for me.

Remember what a big issue gitmo was in '08? It is still there.

Rendition, still doing it.

War, still fighting.

Patriot act, still good law.

The bail out, Obama did his own, even bigger.

I just can't in good conscious support a party who had a kkk member elected to the united states senate as recently as the 2000's.

But in reality there is no important difference between the parties. They are both only interested in maintaining power.

If we had a healthy government I wouldn't be supportive of him, but with the way things are I wish Ron Paul could get into office.
a stimulus and a bail out are two different things.

the word you were looking for is conscience, not conscious.

tell me more about this rawn pawl thing you got going on. it's been a while since the rawn pawl fanbois laid down sacrifices at the altar of Pawl.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I thought mine would. What did you do?

I have a job - won't go into a lot of detail there - with a major energy company in the eastern united states. In other words, I'm involved with big coal.

Most of what I do is sugar coat reports and tests. Our company paid millions of dollars to a hydrodynamics firm to calculate the best location along streams for positioning of specific equipment that generates runoff.

The EPA measures the stream for certain things at a certain distance down stream. Well within a stream there is the capability for anything that is put into it to either spread out across the entire stream, or to concentrate in a "jet" of water running narrowly down stream, and thus not spreading out widely.

This can result in lower levels showing up in the tests than are actually introduced to the stream. It means they can pollute more.
I did bench chemistry, organic synthesis to support healthcare.
 
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