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hyroot

hyroot

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Just cause you can get the hid closer doesn't mean you should. 1000w's should be 18 inches away at the closest
otherwise they will bleach plants too. I have 2 buddies that run 10 1000's together. They're lights are a foot away. They cool the hoods very well. They bleach the shit out of their plants. They like the white look... They are idiots.


quality led put out very little heat. Less than the induction. Where china leds put out alot more heat...


Redcarpetmunches epistar is Chinese. They are made in shenzen china. Cree and Nichia are the only U.S led companies. Osram is Chinese but its a sister company to Sylvania which is in Germany.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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hyroot said:
Just cause you can get the hid closer doesn't mean you should. 1000w's should be 18 inches away at the closest
otherwise they will bleach plants too. I have 2 buddies that run 10 1000's together. They're lights are a foot away. They cool the hoods very well. They bleach the shit out of their plants. They like the white look... They are idiots.


quality led put out very little heat. Less than the induction. Where china leds put out alot more heat...


Redcarpetmunches epistar is Chinese. They are made in shenzen china. Cree and Nichia are the only U.S led companies. Osram is Chinese but its a sister company to Sylvania which is in Germany.
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Only thing with me personally, and this is the full reason for my bias, is I very often have no choice but to have lamps pretty close. I love my hazes etc, and I am going to be running a NL5 x OG as a Gage test soon which I know is going to try go through the roof lol. I'm a peculiar fella with peculiar tastes I know.

Thing is I HAVE to try LED to have a REAL opinion. So far they are more reservations than opinions really. In the end, you can't knock it till you have tried it! I haven't so I should really shut up about it.

I am loving the new Area 51 LED panels in all the grows and reviews I am reading. Looks like a solid investment. Makes HID look like a 9v torch. My only REAL reservation is with their directionality. Shove HID into a photon prison like a tent or a well built and lined room, and you reap the rewards. It is easy to harnass ALL that light. cb420 pulled 1.7 pounds off a single 1000w lamp. That's pushing 1.5 grams per watt. So if tweaked HID can kick.
With LED it is all going one way. But this aspect of LED is getting better the more jacked the lenses are getting. Exciting stuff for sure, and my hat is off to the early adopters smoothing out the edges for us future users.

To me the amount of heat they put out is not much of an issue, in winter it is cool enough to run HID no hassle, in summer the environment itself creates temps the plants don't like nevermind the lighting, so vents and climate control are jacked as can be anyhow. Combine that with flowering at night and temps are well managed. My vents clear the room in around 15 seconds so it quickly reaches ambient outside temps if I don't switch a fan off or what. In winter I use a quarter of the vents. My AC is running during the DARK period when outside temps are 110 so the ladies can have a cold sleep. At this point, their dark period is warmer than their light period the AC can't keep up.

Night is nice and cool most of the time. But I can tell you, inverted day/night temps FREAK the hell out of a plant. Sheeeuuuut. They are NOT happy. I almost feel like culling them to end their suffering. It is horrible. No more summer indoors. Started seeing the bananas yesterday anyhow. Poor things, been hardcore.
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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Ham, I'm starting an LED journal with 2 top notch affordable panels. I'll post in sig when starting...prob in 2-3 days. Perfect for height restrictions and heat! Why not try vert with scrog? It's not a drastic '48 hours' of darkness type change.

Hy, I understand your jealousy :P I know you admire my 730nm DIY. Love the retro avatar!!!
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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If we're putting all the time, money, and research into soil and pots...why not give them the best lighting? My nugs are insane with 4-5 weeks left. I'll prob get 2-3 oz a plant from this stupid 12/12 from start. It's my indoor sun combined with microbes. You should see the sacs on all these dudes!
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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RedCarpetMatches said:
why not give them the best lighting?!
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So what competition do we have for African sunlight?... LOL... I get a lot of the best light on earth for a lot of the time so I guess it is less of a priority for my indoor. I feel lighting wise they are happy, though. I got 450g per square meter, that's pretty badass.
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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Mad Hamish said:
So what competition do we have for African sunlight?... LOL... I get a lot of the best light on earth for a lot of the time so I guess it is less of a priority for my indoor. I feel lighting wise they are happy, though. I got 450g per square meter, that's pretty badass.
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LOL no debate there...I'm talking indoor brah lol.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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these are lower buds on my nl x og #3 they had a bit of a potassium def. They suck up so much more water and nutes under these induction / led combo


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cheese og. phos def

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cheese berry might be changing name to jelly donut because it now smells like strawberry jelly donut now and has never had that flavor before. perfectly healthy, no defs.

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nl x og #2. potassium def too

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these were under t5 for the first 12 days of flower. then induction / led . I had them on a 13/11 schedule for 2 1/2 weeks which they did not like.. I expect far bigger buds next round. These buds are still really good size and very dense.
 
Javadog

Javadog

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Mad Hamish said:
So what competition do we have for African sunlight?... LOL... I get a lot of the best light on earth for a lot of the time so I guess it is less of a priority for my indoor. I feel lighting wise they are happy, though. I got 450g per square meter, that's pretty badass.
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Watch out for that Daktari Sun!

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I am old enough to remember that show....they made a real enemy
out of the sun. They would show it, accompanied by this eerie music,
to indicate it's inherent threat.

Keep it up!

JD
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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Just transplanted my Cornerstone...def a girl. Day two of showing. Usually I don't count from showing, but she was 12/12fs. She's gonna be a biggin...just how I like em ;) She really picked up the pace like Ham said earlier...Mr. f'n know it all. Seems like a good recommendation Gand! I'll pollinate with the biggest, stickiest, smelliest male. Looking for a hockey playing lumberjack with a set of hairy bull balls, know what I mean...
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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RedCarpetMatches said:
I've made several calls and emails to get a good deal on Crees. I don't use Chinese baboon!!! 730 Epistars for 15 min a day isn't bad. Don't hate...congratulate. You're out of my Area 51 club!

Edit: I've depleted my aloe resources <snort> and just received my 200x powder. I know it says 1:200, but what have you guys used for foliar? This shit isn't cheap.
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I use an 1/8'th of a tsp per gallon. That shit will last you forever.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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hyroot said:
these are lower buds on my nl x og #3 they had a bit of a potassium def. They suck up so much more water and nutes under these induction / led combo


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cheese og. phos def

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cheese berry might be changing name to jelly donut because it now smells like strawberry jelly donut now and has never had that flavor before. perfectly healthy, no defs.

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nl x og #2. potassium def too

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these were under t5 for the first 12 days of flower. then induction / led . I had them on a 13/11 schedule for 2 1/2 weeks which they did not like.. I expect far bigger buds next round. These buds are still really good size and very dense.
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Very cool pics bro. Love the light, looks 'real life'
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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mycomaster said:
Haven't posted a pic in forever. Here's one of my OBR gal.
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Here's one of my Bay11's that I have under my xgs-190
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It's hard to keep up with all the info you guys slam on to this thread. It started making my temples pulse when I was trying to catch up on all this.
Have a blessed day folks. Peace & Love. Myco
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The gals are looking spectacular Myco!

I hope you're doing well bro!
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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RedCarpetMatches said:
Effe those MEFFERS!!! Ban me for "non conforming" behavior. Every thread...do this or be shunned BS.
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Lmao!!

I'm laughing at this, but I totally agree with you. Bunch of pretentious mo-fo's! There are some really good peeps over there (headbanger, MHG, xmo, and others) but too many of the "higher-ups" are on some sort of stupid power trip. If you don't worship the ground they walk on you're shunned. Gas talks to people like they're 12 years old.

I'll take my organic bretheren right here on RIU over those ego-trippin fools any day.
 
RedCarpetMatches

RedCarpetMatches

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st0wandgrow said:
Lmao!!

I'm laughing at this, but I totally agree with you. Bunch of pretentious mo-fo's! There are some really good peeps over there (headbanger, MHG, xmo, and others) but too many of the "higher-ups" are on some sort of stupid power trip. If you don't worship the ground they walk on you're shunned. Gas talks to people like they're 12 years old.

I'll take my organic bretheren right here on RIU over those ego-trippin fools any day.
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Must be peat! Coco is impossible! I got this from buildasoil! Donate $100 and we'll make you a VIP LOL!!! They can dish it and not take it. Their way or the highway. Fuck em. That you know who guy, that acts like Hyroot LMAO...jk" can read a book and not a leaf worth shit...with his 'autos' under T12s. I'm tempted to register again just to get a few last words lol.
 
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