Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[DANKSWAG]

blackstrap molasse for chloramine but you can only use so much of it right? I am lucky here I think tapwater is pretty good though I have never tested it. I am curious about the spikes it would allow me to have overall weaker soil with the spikes I am definitely going to give it a try. It is true in nature you find ''pockets'' of food in the soil like wherever the animals pooed or where the rats died etc....

My well water is typically 30-50ppm all year around so I am good to go and I have to add CalMg, but I learned this before I got his book

He has master mix soil recipe a beefed up super soil with a balance of slow and fast releasing nutrients you have to cook like Subs before using due to high N and P sources.

Nonetheless the master mix recipe of his did best so far of all recipes and container style growing I've tried. I find the TLO layering style of building containers is helpful if you don't have cooked soil at the ready. This is where the layering and spikes help keep young plant roots safe till soil biology prepares food for consumption.

Otherwise I would just prefer to build a soil that can go the whole distance, just add water which my PHOGS does for me keeping me busy doing other things.



DankSwag

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

My well water is typically 30-50ppm all year around so I am good to go and I have to add CalMg, but I learned this before I got his book

He has master mix soil recipe a beefed up super soil with a balance of slow and fast releasing nutrients you have to cook like Subs before using due to high N and P sources.

Nonetheless the master mix recipe of his did best so far of all recipes and container style growing I've tried. I find the TLO layering style of building containers is helpful if you don't have cooked soil at the ready. This is where the layering and spikes help keep young plant roots safe till soil biology prepares food for consumption.

Otherwise I would just prefer to build a soil that can go the whole distance, just add water which my PHOGS does for me keeping me busy doing other things.
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DankSwag

Correct on last comment my apprentice. Just have it in soil, and add teas or top dress if necessary. Keep It Steelheader!

 

[st0wandgrow]

blackstrap molasse for chloramine but you can only use so much of it right? I am lucky here I think tapwater is pretty good though I have never tested it. I am curious about the spikes it would allow me to have overall weaker soil with the spikes I am definitely going to give it a try. It is true in nature you find ''pockets'' of food in the soil like wherever the animals pooed or where the rats died etc....

You shouldn't have to have it tested. Just go on to your cities website and look for the yearly water analysis. They'll have all disolved solides, chlorine, chloramine, etc all listed as parts per million/billion.

 

[Nizza]

saw this on RIU https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog32560-i-have-made-cactus-discovery.html

wonder if cactus would be great for ROLS, sort of like Aloe? Maybe i'll get one of each and grow them out this summer, and next winter do 3 indoor rols plants!
My babies just got their first watering of dyna gro foliage pro, and they "prayed"
first time since they were in veg that they prayed, but in veg all they got was water+rapidstart(first few waterings)
they are in happy frog, and i thought praying was just a ROLS thing, could this mean i have active microbes in my soil still? Or just a sign they are getting a nice diet?

love this thread, i can't wait till i get the money to make and amend my own soils and stop with the dyna gro bullshit.
hopefully the dyna will just be for hydro veggies, I have a shit ton of 6" pvc that would be great

 

[NickNasty]

Praying is just a sign that there metabolism is in over drive. They are seeking out more energy from the light because they are processing things at a faster pace. It basically means they are happy and healthy.

 

[Abiqua]

saw this on RIU https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog32560-i-have-made-cactus-discovery.html

wonder if cactus would be great for ROLS, sort of like Aloe? Maybe i'll get one of each and grow them out this summer, and next winter do 3 indoor rols plants!
My babies just got their first watering of dyna gro foliage pro, and they "prayed"
first time since they were in veg that they prayed, but in veg all they got was water+rapidstart(first few waterings)
they are in happy frog, and i thought praying was just a ROLS thing, could this mean i have active microbes in my soil still? Or just a sign they are getting a nice diet?

love this thread, i can't wait till i get the money to make and amend my own soils and stop with the dyna gro bullshit.
hopefully the dyna will just be for hydro veggies, I have a shit ton of 6" pvc that would be great

I have been wondering about this with the Jade Plant....other peeps are still using yucca extract too, another succelent....I also have this fat succulent I bought, mistakenly thinking it was aloe, until I got home. The tag didn't identify it either.....although I have heard the jade tree plant is anti-fungal, but I bet something in aloe is too, though....

Succu......................... Jade

 

[Nizza]

i agree, aloe and coconut seem like the cure-all's

it would be nice though, to see if these other plants have special characteristics that aloe doesn't.
We'll see right? I also, have a small succulent in a boot. I left it in full sun when it was pretty big, and everything got murdered and i thought it was dead. Weeks later, i see a little green thing there. I got pics over on my thread, which i actually just updated

there's pics of my amaryllis in there, that i took day-to-day photo's when it was gonna bloom. Still in progress, it's a 3 shoot bulb so only 1 has opened
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/773447-nizzas-3x-15-gallon-feminized-5.html#post10110103
oh yeah you'll also see the succulent in a boot in there haha

growing anything to me is fun! it's my ultimate hobby lol. This thread is definately one of my top favorite threads... oodles of info!

 

[DANKSWAG]

I have been wondering about this with the Jade Plant....other peeps are still using yucca extract too, another succelent....I also have this fat succulent I bought, mistakenly thinking it was aloe, until I got home. The tag didn't identify it either.....although I have heard the jade tree plant is anti-fungal, but I bet something in aloe is too, though....

Succu......................... Jade
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Yo I've been growing these Aloe plants for months, I use them to clone with and even have one in a pot with a couple of clones I sexed and flowered young.



DankSwag

 

[Abiqua]

^ oh man that thing is cool as hell. I wanna say it looks like a Crocus because of the flowers, but I can't count all the petals, but in the florescence is damn similar.

Agree on growing whatever....I would grow anything that is a seed I guess or spore

 

[Nizza]

speaking of spores, how long will shrooms stay in your system for a drug test urine sample?
i had to quit blazing for a job.... so sad...
now i have a lot of energy and don't sleep as much, i thought it would be fun to trip again (haven't since high school)

nice aloe porn!
that makes me want to grow them soooo much more!

 

[SpicySativa]

speaking of spores, how long will shrooms stay in your system for a drug test urine sample?
i had to quit blazing for a job.... so sad...
now i have a lot of energy and don't sleep as much, i thought it would be fun to trip again (haven't since high school)

nice aloe porn!
that makes me want to grow them soooo much more!

Quit blazing for a job interview? Not me, thank you. Check out Dr Greens Agent X. Works like a charm.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

Does anyone else hear use tap? I just bubble over night with a smidge of BSM...about 1/8tsp per 5 gal.

 

[Abiqua]

Yo I've been growing these Aloe plants for months, I use them to clone with and even have one in a pot with a couple of clones I sexed and flowered young.

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DankSwag

Noice Noice [does anybody watch K&P?]...whats your medium for the Aloe, I need to replant, those look like phat phuckers all the way around, nice smarty use!

 

[DANKSWAG]

Noice Noice [does anybody watch K&P?]...whats your medium for the Aloe, I need to replant, those look like phat phuckers all the way around, nice smarty use!

Thanks, I just use a little of this

With a little of this

1:1, cause the shit above is dame expensive. I use BG Natural as a base in building my soil it is also good for seedlings\clones.

DangSwag

 

[Abiqua]

^ What is the top stuff?

I have an idea already on the cactus mix knock off I was going to attempt, but just wondered if somebody just ran the standard ROLS formula.

[Edit: Potting soil and compost, that it?]

 

[DANKSWAG]

Does anyone else hear use tap? I just bubble over night with a smidge of BSM...about 1/8tsp per 5 gal.

No, but I do dab through my bubblier and take a shot of fireball whiskey on the side...

DankSwag

 

[DANKSWAG]

^ What is the top stuff?

I have an idea already on the cactus mix knock off I was going to attempt, but just wondered if somebody just ran the standard ROLS formula.

[Edit: Potting soil and compost, that it?]

http://www.gardnerandbloome.com/products?brand=gardnerbloome&category=gardnerbloome-soils#13
GARDNER & BLOOME® EDEN VALLEY BLEND POTTING SOIL

Contains top-shelf organic ingredients like kapok seed meal, seabird guano, and sardine meal to help plants grow vigorously while developing abundant flowers & fruit.
High coconut coir content provides an environmentally sustainable amendment that improves drainage & moisture retention.
Crab chitin helps to naturally control fungus gnats and other soil borne pests.


DankSwag

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I just hit the worm jackpot!!! Thought it was a c-list killer :O, but I'm alive! His castings felt clay like, but not too moist. He used peat and backyard dirt for bedding. It had to be the clay in his topsoil. I wouldn't mind mixing in some clay like VC near the bottom or mixed in as a smaller %. With the diff texture (less aeration) how would you guys mix/incorporate?

 

[DANKSWAG]

I just hit the worm jackpot!!! Thought it was a c-list killer :O, but I'm alive! His castings felt clay like, but not too moist. He used peat and backyard dirt for bedding. It had to be the clay in his topsoil. I wouldn't mind mixing in some clay like VC near the bottom or mixed in as a smaller %. With the diff texture (less aeration) how would you guys mix/incorporate?

anything clay like rings alarms of drainage issues. My understanding that should be at the bottom when building a container. Or I would see if you could areate it with rice hulls? then top dress?

First thing off my dabbed out mind! If you all get a chance check out my DangSwag's Green Machine 2014 update.

DankSwag

 

[Abiqua]

Does anyone use fresh aloe in their bubble cloners?