Another shooting in a Maryland Mall

[Red1966]

Bullshit. taking away the "right" to own a gun in this country will make no difference. Those that have them will continue to have them, criminals or not. Because a law is not 100 percent effective s no reason to get rid of the law. It is illegal to kill people in this country, there is a law against it. How many times has that law actually had an effect? But we still have that law on the books. Laws rarely deter people from crime, they only punish after the fact.

Surprisingly, under Federal law, it's not illegal to kill people unless they're a head of state. Murder is a state charge.

 

[Red1966]

I see BuckTard is accusing me of lying. That's pretty much typical of this asshole to make false accusations because he knows I have him on "ignore". The murder of 8 nursing students, 7 female and one male, in their dorm rooms was pretty famous at the time. Somehow, BuckTard seems to think that his inability or unwillingness to prove me right somehow proves me wrong. This is to be expected of a dishonest patisan who has repeatedly claimed something has been debunked when it hasn't, or claiming something is a well-know or proven fact when it is no such thing, or pretending a letter negate a speech that was video taped and posted here. Not withstanding well known cheerleaders for his cause, most of whom are in fact sock puppets, who "confirm" his lies even when video of the events are posted. If you think there is an ounce of truth in this lying piece of shit, then you are a fool.

 

[Red1966]

I would, unless they were convicted of a crime using a firearm. Then, depending on the case, I would hand down a suspension of their right to own a gun, that fits the crime. All other felons have the right to own firearms once they paid their debt to society, IMO.

I've always though the term "they paid their debt to society" was bullshit. They haven't undone their crimes. They haven't made restitution to their victims. They may have served their sentence, but by no means have they "paid their debt".

 

[Red1966]

it is only idiotic because you know the question is a trap, any reasonable answer you give will stregnthen my argument. Yes, people have managed to kill multiple others with guns. So again, why do we arm our military?

The same reason a carpenter uses a saw instead hacking away with a butter knife. If you want to do a job, any job, you use the best and most effective tool you have. Going to war with bats and knives while your enemy has firearms isn't battle, it's suicide.

 

[Beagler]

I like the Archie Bunker approach, arm everyone

 

[Red1966]

i heard ted cruz' home address is being published for anyone who wants to collect their share of the $29BILLIONour country's employees will never see and will never circulate in our economy.. thanks..tea party!

schulaar, surely you know a bill was passed in the house to specifically pay the military, but was pocket vetoed by Reid. So, are you a liar, or just ignorant? I'm pretty sure Cruz doesn't keep 29 billion laying around the house.

 

[Red1966]

A little fact for everyone to ponder: There's never been a recorded murder committed in the US by a law abiding concealed carry citizen, not one.

Sadly, you are wrong. A retired police officer with a CCW shot to death a man in a theater because he was texting his babysitter just a week ago.

 

[Balke Buds]

Sadly, you are wrong. A retired police officer with a CCW shot to death a man in a theater because he was texting his babysitter just a week ago.

Then he was not law abiding was he?

 

[Red1966]

what year was that?..how many states did we have at that time?..how many americans? when interpreting law..it always goes back to intentions of the law maker..what were they trying to accomplish?..would they have made the same blanket law had they known what the world would be like a few centuries into the future?..

Yes, we already know you're more than willing to throw out the Constitution. Libtards have no concern with the rights of others, unless it's about a right to abortion.

 

[Balke Buds]

Anyone that relies on a "government" or "law enforcement" clearly can't defend themselves off the Internet. Makes sense. I think that is why UncleBuck hits up google in every argument... Otherwise, they'd probably stutter worse then one with autism or something

Well she has done well protecting herself ON the internet.
Apparently (pure speculation on my part here) she cried to admin the other night and now an assload of my posts on another thread were deleted, no message, no warning (I was being kinda rude)...but she can threaten to rape another persons wife and that seems to be no problem.

AuntBucky has been ignored, her rants make me feel dumb so I chose to ignore...just like I choose to carry a weapon.

 

[Red1966]

Brilliant how? I didn't notice them do anything particularly innovative. Their ideas weren't new or entirely their own.

"Brilliant" doesn't necessarily require innovation. Just because something is new doesn't make it a good idea.

 

[Red1966]

Say nothing of the kind and it is evident that you read in a binary manner. for us or agin us, and you don't intend to actually comprehend what is being said. I will clear it up. YOU, your friends, your relatives, your neighbors, numberous as you are, cannot defeat the u.S. military. Omnipotent? no, everyone should just bend over? no, but Get your "militia' together next week, all 28 of you with your automatic weapons and a few granade launchers and make a stand, let's see exactly how far you get. I want an answer, things are very bad, by all accounts, the government is fixing to make things much much worse, and no one on the right will argue. so WHEN is this final solution going to go into effect? Next week? or when it will be even more impossible for you to do anything about it, when you can and will be watched everywhere you go, and stopped anywhere it is convenient - oh, and the released stories of your demise will look very authentic and work on the vast majority of the public. When? How? How are you going to overthrow this government and when does it start? Your gun will not save you from the tyranny of the U.S. government, it never in our history has and it never ever will.

You seem to be ignoring the Revolutionary War.

 

[Red1966]

Your point? that was a one time incident.

Two incidents in the same day! A guy flew into the Empire State Building also, but in a very small plane. I don't remember if it was on purpose or accidental. Several planes have crashed into buildings. Of course, when you're falling out of the sky, you seldom can control where you crash.

 

[Red1966]

do you realize the douche at the mall used a .12 gauge?

No "." in 12 gauge

 

[BSD0621]

I dont think you understand. The carnage would of been less if everyone in that theater in Aurora, Colorado was packing guns. I mean think of it. A dark crowded theater with a couple hundred people with guns


NEW YORK -- A laid-off clothing designer fatally shot an executive at his former company outside the Empire State Building on Friday, setting off a chaotic showdown with police in front of one of the world's best-known landmarks. Officers killed the gunman and at least nine others suffered minor wounds, likely all of them by stray police gunfire, authorities said.NEW YORK -- A laid-off clothing designer fatally shot an executive at his former company outside the Empire State Building on Friday, setting off a chaotic showdown with police in front of one of the world's best-known landmarks. Officers killed the gunman and at least nine others suffered minor wounds, likely all of them by stray police gunfire, authorities said.

Give everyone guns so when something happens MORE INNOCENTS CAN BE SHOT? LOL and we all know how "well" police officers can shoot. i mean they go to the shooting range what, once every 2 years as a requirement?

 

[BSD0621]

Say nothing of the kind and it is evident that you read in a binary manner. for us or agin us, and you don't intend to actually comprehend what is being said.


I will clear it up. YOU, your friends, your relatives, your neighbors, numberous as you are, cannot defeat the u.S. military. Omnipotent? no, everyone should just bend over? no, but Get your "militia' together next week, all 28 of you with your automatic weapons and a few granade launchers and make a stand, let's see exactly how far you get.

I want an answer, things are very bad, by all accounts, the government is fixing to make things much much worse, and no one on the right will argue. so WHEN is this final solution going to go into effect? Next week? or when it will be even more impossible for you to do anything about it, when you can and will be watched everywhere you go, and stopped anywhere it is convenient - oh, and the released stories of your demise will look very authentic and work on the vast majority of the public.

When? How? How are you going to overthrow this government and when does it start? Your gun will not save you from the tyranny of the U.S. government, it never in our history has and it never ever will.

It's called the New World Order for a reason...

 

[canndo]

The same reason a carpenter uses a saw instead hacking away with a butter knife. If you want to do a job, any job, you use the best and most effective tool you have. Going to war with bats and knives while your enemy has firearms isn't battle, it's suicide.

Could this be the reason why the majority of mass killings in America are performed with the best and most effective tool they could get? Guns don't kill people, but people with guns are more efficient at it. Why not limit the efficiency of the tool most chosen by psychotic mass murderers?

 

[canndo]

You seem to be ignoring the Revolutionary War.

So that is your modern day model for our current "potential" to overthrow our opressors? Is it?

 

[NLXSK1]

Could this be the reason why the majority of mass killings in America are performed with the best and most effective tool they could get? Guns don't kill people, but people with guns are more efficient at it. Why not limit the efficiency of the tool most chosen by psychotic mass murderers?

Because we are given the right to bear arms by our Constitution and it is to both provide for personal defense and to keep the government and criminals in check.

 

[canndo]

Because we are given the right to bear arms by our Constitution and it is to both provide for personal defense and to keep the government and criminals in check.

It doesn't say what arms. We should indeed be given the methods necessary (within reason), to defend our selves and our property. That one abut keeping government in check is silly. The entire constitution is written with that end in mind. The 2nd no longer has relevence in that regard.