For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

Red1966

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I have run without problem 48 two gallon sites on the 55 gal res that comes with the system.It will suck up a little over half of the barrels water when it floods.
If the buckets were flooded to the top rim, then they would use 36 gallon, so 30 gallon sounds about right.
 

bird mcbride

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I have just constructed a mini table 2' x 2' x 7". I am doing six 4min F&D every twenty four hours and with seedlings under CFL I bumped it from 18/6d to 20/4d. I have yet to install the overflow at the head of the table so I can increase the flood time, But that comes later when I switch it to clones and flowers. This is my hobby table and I am very lazy.
 

bird mcbride

Well-Known Member
Aren't you concerned about flooding without an overflow?
Ya I am but so far just one flood but that was my mistake. I screwed up with the am pm thing:)
I got the overflow but still have to drill the hole. I started the seeds in the table without prespouting and I have the table flooding at 2/3. The new hydroton is way more floaty than the old hydroton That I'm using in my other table. I'm going to slot the overflow so I can adjust the flood level. For now though she's working like a trooper.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
I do 4 floods in my 18 bucket system ebb n gro buckets. i built my own using 2 gallon buckets. I did a test run with my chosen pump and timed how long to fil the buckets, including hydroton in them and thats what i set my timer for. For me its a 10 minute flood on and the controller handle that leveling time and then it takes like 7 minutes to drain fully. I run fills every 6 hours through entire grow. Same as in my flood tables
 

bassman999

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I noticed the girls that went into ebb last night were less healthy than those that stayed in perlite cups with same nutes.

Could be not enough moisture to roots, rockwool too wet, or they dont like the Hydro Rokz??
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
Inoticed after 2 days res smells a lil funky.

I added some H2o2, and temporarily a water pump to keep water moving.

Ill add an air pump tomorrow.

What size air pump do I need?
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
You can run a simple whisper 20 or 40 your choice like this http://www.healthypets.com/whpairpump20.html?mr:trackingCode=36699EFC-909B-E011-8D66-001517B188A2&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=28625372687&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=38543705835&origin=pla&gclid=CIXwnKT_rbwCFQtgMgoduSoAVg then put a 6 inch disc on it and toss it in the res. A second pump is a good thing I always add a small 50 gph pump in my res to run 24/7 just to keep the water and nutes mixed.. Depending on your nutes a res can get a bit stinky after a few days especially if you run organic mixes which if you do then no H202 or your killing your organics. Clean and replace once every week in a 30 gallon res and keep it topped off paying attention to the levels as that will tell you what your plants are doing as far as drinking and your ppm will tell you how they are eating if you get a nice balanced drop in both you have health eating and drinking.
 

bassman999

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You can run a simple whisper 20 or 40 your choice like this http://www.healthypets.com/whpairpump20.html?mr:trackingCode=36699EFC-909B-E011-8D66-001517B188A2&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=28625372687&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=38543705835&origin=pla&gclid=CIXwnKT_rbwCFQtgMgoduSoAVg then put a 6 inch disc on it and toss it in the res. A second pump is a good thing I always add a small 50 gph pump in my res to run 24/7 just to keep the water and nutes mixed.. Depending on your nutes a res can get a bit stinky after a few days especially if you run organic mixes which if you do then no H202 or your killing your organics. Clean and replace once every week in a 30 gallon res and keep it topped off paying attention to the levels as that will tell you what your plants are doing as far as drinking and your ppm will tell you how they are eating if you get a nice balanced drop in both you have health eating and drinking.
Thanx, I ended up with an Active Aqua 20 watt, and its noisy as HELL!!

It does make lots of activity as if the water in thee is boiling.

I am gonna drain and refill with fresh nutes and Dutch Master Zone.....I am using Maxi Bloom for nutes right now

Honestly plants are doing terrible in there!

The ones still in perlite cups look so much happier.
The EBB ones are yellowing and leaves are not straight out or up, but just crappy looking.

I am hoping the fresh nutes and the air will help.


I might have put too much H2o2 in there to compensate for no air stones till I bought the pump???

I hope they look better in a few days
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
Well fesh nutes an air and all, but they all look sick 24 hr after they hit the caly balls,
The ones in hempy look fine still.

Does anyone have any experience with the Atami B'Cuzz Hydrp Rokz??
I think the knock-off Hydroton might be the issue.
The res looks cloudy like from clay dust.
I washed them vigorously, with hot water and a strainer.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Well fesh nutes an air and all, but they all look sick 24 hr after they hit the caly balls,
The ones in hempy look fine still.

Does anyone have any experience with the Atami B'Cuzz Hydrp Rokz??
I think the knock-off Hydroton might be the issue.
The res looks cloudy like from clay dust.
I washed them vigorously, with hot water and a strainer.

hydroton sucks never again.....
better to get growdan and mix 50/50 with absobent/repellant growdan = no transplant shock
less sweating washing rock and a much cleaner res.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I have trouble with stuff that retains water too much as I tend to over water.

You flood and drian with them?
How many times a day do you flood with them Grodan?
2 times a day its key to mix the grodan/rockwool absorbant with 30 to 50% growdan/rockwool repellant
this give the right ratio and helps eliminate root rot.

trust me bro you got to get away from the rock lol i was washing
300L of rock a week when i saw the light! Started switching to r/w
and never looked back. Although i dont grow using ebb setups anymore
i do have alot of exp with them
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
2 times a day its key to mix the grodan/rockwool absorbant with 30 to 50% growdan/rockwool repellant
this give the right ratio and helps eliminate root rot.

trust me bro you got to get away from the rock lol i was washing
300L of rock a week when i saw the light! Started switching to r/w
and never looked back. Although i dont grow using ebb setups anymore
i do have alot of exp with them
I was re-reading what you wrote, and saw the repellent part.
I didnt know they made that, and now it makes more sense to me.

I just bought this stuff, and am broke now, but I will def look into this for the next grow.

Might go to the hydro store tomorrow and open up a bag to see this stuff in person.


I have noticed a lil life coming back into the girls today as a rsult I suppose of less watering cycles.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I was re-reading what you wrote, and saw the repellent part.
I didnt know they made that, and now it makes more sense to me.

I just bought this stuff, and am broke now, but I will def look into this for the next grow.

Might go to the hydro store tomorrow and open up a bag to see this stuff in person.


I have noticed a lil life coming back into the girls today as a rsult I suppose of less watering cycles.

The bag with purple righting is absorbant and the green righting is repellant
 
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