What if........Bodhi, GGG, etc....elite fems ?

kona gold

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Hey....if they're selling them and making a huge profit....then it on like donkey kong!!!


It's not like they created the genetics, they got them from somewhere!
So once you take a strain, say from bodhi, and pollinate it, it is now yours, and fuck giving props to who you got it from, they just made money off you!!!

Hello!!????!!!

If i make an s1 from some seeds i spent good money for, then those s1's are my creation now, since i did the selecting and the pollenating.
Now if someone gave me a clone and i made s1's or regualrs, i would prop where i got my source from, but again....once you hit it with pollen, you now are the steuard of that strain.
 

kona gold

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Okay...let's nip this in the bud right now. This discussion was just held in the Bodhi thread, and I'd appreciate if this thread isn't hijacked by the chem vs dirt arguments again. In the end, everyone holds to their opinions.

Always appreciate your input, KG, let's just have that debate elsewhere if it must be had again. Thanks.
You are correct sir!!!
Sorry just a babbling fool!!!:-)
 

TonightYou

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Its all about who you know. There are some very legit clones in Michigan, but you are half right. Many bullshit ones too .
Not to sidetrack the conversation, but you are correct. I've kinda fell out of the scene so to speak to focus on my garden. Too many people didn't know what they have and I ain't one to want to deal with foreign pests any time soon. Had to take up using a pesticide which I wasn't thrilled about. I use to see a lot of people making the scene into a money grab which really turns me off.
 

kona gold

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Not to sidetrack the conversation, but you are correct. I've kinda fell out of the scene so to speak to focus on my garden. Too many people didn't know what they have and I ain't one to want to deal with foreign pests any time soon. Had to take up using a pesticide which I wasn't thrilled about. I use to see a lot of people making the scene into a money grab which really turns me off.[/QUOTE

" Like This"
 

TonightYou

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Seriously., guy was selling "green crack" clones. I asked him how he acquired it. His response "from seeds".

No, you don't have "green crack" you have a selfed plant. I guess it's not a stretch to call it that, but when you are seeking clone onlys, it is not what you are looking for.

Edit how many idiots are doing just this? If you don't know the chain, let alone a clone only means just that, how many people are passing off shit clones, from idiots popping selfed beans.
 
Okay so what seed strain or bank is getting reviewed here?

It seems like this thread does not belong in this section to be honest I see nothing getting reviews just "what if" fems were made off their gear.
 

kona gold

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Seriously., guy was selling "green crack" clones. I asked him how he acquired it. His response "from seeds".

No, you don't have "green crack" you have a selfed plant. I guess it's not a stretch to call it that, but when you are seeking clone onlys, it is not what you are looking for.

Edit how many idiots are doing just this? If you don't know the chain, let alone a clone only means just that, how many people are passing off shit clones, from idiots popping selfed beans.

That is why i am bummed the way things are going with weed and the world!

I got to walmart to buy my child some toys. I see some they still have, that i had when i was a child. I get all excited, buy them and go home to play with my son! I get home, take out something to play with(say link-n-logs), dump it out of the box.............and realize this isn't the same quality; the wood is junk, the stain comes off in your hand, and the pieces don't fit together nice n tight.
Now they call them link-n-logs, but it is an imposter of the original!

Just like with the clone your talking about.....yes it's "green crack", bot a knock off of the original. It's all about morals, if you will be truthful and say" it is a green crack hybid" or something. At least he told you its origins. Probably some people telling someone it's the real deal sour diesel, when it came from a fem! That would suck!
 

Amos Otis

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Okay so what seed strain or bank is getting reviewed here?

It seems like this thread does not belong in this section to be honest I see nothing getting reviews just "what if" fems were made off their gear.
That's a fair point. I've often mentioned my fondness for FoS CheeseDom, and probably did so at the start of this thread. It's not entirely a 'what if', as two of the 'what ifs' just hit the fem bloom tent. Top r is Dr Underground Melon Gum [ Soma Lavender x Serious Bubblegum ], to it's left Soma Somango. These were slowed by the severe cold during veg [ no way to heat the reservoirs...you can imagine how the roots hated the cold liquid ], but have regained vigor and most of the color. You can still see some 'puffy' type fan leaves about middle down. In the foreground is the CheeseDom [TGA CheeseQuake x Exodus].

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Let me add.....I almost never travel out of this area of RIU. I never thought about it before now, but there are several 'regulars' in this section of RIU that I've gotten accustomed to reading. The question is mostly aimed at those people because of the respect I've gained for their opinions [ organics AND chem...lol ]. Hope the photos make it more appropos for the neighborhood.
 

Amos Otis

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Not to sidetrack the conversation, but you are correct. I've kinda fell out of the scene so to speak to focus on my garden. Too many people didn't know what they have and I ain't one to want to deal with foreign pests any time soon. Had to take up using a pesticide which I wasn't thrilled about. I use to see a lot of people making the scene into a money grab which really turns me off.
Let the conversation flow - tangents are usually cool and informative when they don't get bogged down by 'Autos Rock' and grow style arguments that add nothing to what we all have already read or typed.

Carry on amigos !
 

TonightYou

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That is why i am bummed the way things are going with weed and the world!

I got to walmart to buy my child some toys. I see some they still have, that i had when i was a child. I get all excited, buy them and go home to play with my son! I get home, take out something to play with(say link-n-logs), dump it out of the box.............and realize this isn't the same quality; the wood is junk, the stain comes off in your hand, and the pieces don't fit together nice n tight.
Now they call them link-n-logs, but it is an imposter of the original!

Just like with the clone your talking about.....yes it's "green crack", bot a knock off of the original. It's all about morals, if you will be truthful and say" it is a green crack hybid" or something. At least he told you its origins. Probably some people telling someone it's the real deal sour diesel, when it came from a fem! That would suck!
Maybe it's just due to my fascination with cannabis and my desire for organized data, but it pisses me off. Yes he was honest, probably because he was an idiot to the idea of clone onlys. Had the same problem with people selling chems. Asking questions such as which one? where did you procure it? Hesitation and even worse "seeds" is simply misrepresenting a highly desired clone. Really that's why I went to beans. At least I could get killer genetics in a cross instead of who knows what from who knows where.
worse part of that equation minus the consideration of pests is wasting 9 weeks or more what turns out to be garbage
 

Hydroburn

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You've been disappointed w/ Bodhi gear? Oh, no! I hate to ask for more info, because I'm committed to Bodhi's this year, but.....details, please.
He doesn't offer fems so it is disappointing to have to rip out over half my grow for flower.
 

TonightYou

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He doesn't offer fems so it is disappointing to have to rip out over half my grow for flower.
See I grow in a small place, but I have a separate veg area and can easily just remove the male and move in another plant. The whole closet is used for cannabis. only flowering plants need to be in my tent. never understood vegging in tents unless you absolutely had to. All you need for vegging is a t5 or something similar. doesn't take much. So at best one spot is tied up for about a week maybe two in the event a male is present. Also I've sexed plants in smaller containers for the first run so it makes it easier. Perpetual for the win.
 

brek

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He doesn't offer fems so it is disappointing to have to rip out over half my grow for flower.
You're disappointed with Bodhi gear because he doesn't offer fems? Like you didn't know that when you ordered the packs?

I'd love to go back to "pics or it didn't happen", or "pics or you're a shitty grower". I wonder how many teengaers with cfl's in mom's basement would have to shut up. :)
 

TonightYou

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See even if ya had to rip out the males, surely there must have been some lovely ladies left? That's where cloning comes in at.
 

Hydroburn

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No I am disappointed with regular beans. Bodhi is what I was growing. I said nothing about his gear. But since we are talking about it now, I'm not a big fan.
 

kindnug

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When you have a dislike...people want to know!

You don't think he can select elite males? He tests most of his crosses before releasing + if not he lets you know in the description.
I've had great results with his strains, very similar plants with enough variation to find what your looking for.

He has some new males that are being tested now that I'm more interested in than SL or Appy.
There are some breeders that will continue to use the same old dudes and never search for new ones.
 

TonightYou

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Fair enough but my Goji certainly has a stronger effect than any og S1 I've bought/wasted on beans. thanks for sharing
 
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