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peacepipe17

peacepipe17

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Why not buy feminized seeds? I like seeds because I can pick and choose what strains to grow at any given time

But I like the ease of clones as well. I wouldn't see much use in not buying feminized. Why risk a plant being male

Think of all the light and resources wasted lol
 
BarnBuster

BarnBuster

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So in your opinion, QK, does it have to be the totality of environmental factors to produce a high % of females, rather than just one or 2?
 
SableZen

SableZen

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qwizoking said:
Besides, this isn't disputed....by anyone(I mean with a degree and knowledge of the subject..not random forum members)...................its simply fact
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My apologies then for assuming you had a degree of some kind since that line sort of implied you might (when I read it originally). I'd still be interested if you had something to say or share that wasn't a copy/paste from some random guy on the internet though and was from a legitimate scientific source of some kind that was related to your claim. Otherwise, yeah - might be best if you just back out after getting mad.
 
Nitro1990

Nitro1990

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qwizoking said:
Y'all can believe what you want..
Its been proven that cannabis sex is determined through environmental factors..again this is what makes fem seeds possible, the xa system
I'm out
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NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOO the femz seeds is created by making a female herm with a chemical i think is called silver something then crossing that with a female to make FEMZ seeds not some mythical vooodoo shite i mean back this up with 100% lab tests?
 
Nitro1990

Nitro1990

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well after looking on google i have found nothing from a source i would consider conclusive its all forums to do with growing and 1 very brave seed bank
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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In my opinion the temps are the single most important factor. If you keep your temps where you like to grow at you should expect about 50:50 females usually more fems than males though.... I feel the rest is stress induced,
The problem is people who don't understand sex determination symptoms think it sounds very superstitious
like I said go read about http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-determination_system the non genetic section..its brief but still . You see that simply being dominant in a group will turn it female or simply touching a female, warm temps, a high population in close proximity..its all about hormones with these
Can I spray something on you that will inhibit a hormone and turn you into a boy? No because your sex is not determined by hormones. This seriously isn't debatable ..the fact that fem seeds exist mean its an xa system..xy is not the only system! At all lol

I know raised humidity and less light, specifically the saturation plays a part so dies nutes but I feel they are all about the same in effect..temps are drastic

I challenge you barnbuster to take 10 seeds And keep them under 70 but not below 60.. foliar feed them every morning. If you don't have at least 8/10 females I will retract my statements and never repeat it again, simply calling my rates a fluke (though out of a 100 plants.....)

And I've only quoted people like ainsworth he's one of the main guys..they all have degrees and all sources will usually start with "abstract"
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/31414397_Boys_and_Girls_Come_Out_to_Play_The_Molecular_Biology_of_Dioecious_Plants I don't understand why anyone thinks I'm qouting random forum posts..the sources are all great read them...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12441630/

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2435878?uid=2460338415&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=83&uid=63&sid=21103435536017
Lmao
 
Nitro1990

Nitro1990

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omfg i dont even know how to respond but to say UNLESS YOU CAN BACK THI SHIT UP stop already i mean if you had a univercity or some lab docs to back this up dude id be the 1st one to agree but this is crap when i 1st started by your logic most my reg seeds shopuld have been male but no i had 7 out of 10 female its a myth and urban legend a figment of some stoners imagenation
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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"The determination of sex in the hemp is not caused by an allosome differential, but these chromosomes must be assumed to play a passive role. Determination is brought about through differential physiological states developed in gradients in both the egg and the vegetative body."
Schaffner, John H.
Good enough for y'all morons?

Its not imagination if I can reproduce the results every single week..
Over 100 plants..that's good enough for a study son

I think my first post says it best..ignorance here is a force to be reckoned with..
 
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

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Schaffner, John H. (1929), I always seem to question data gather from researches conducted in the 20's
Dr. Jekyll

Give us a break, you are just being a parrot, can't you just accept that we are not buying into your flawed theory?
Polly want a cracker?
Mr. Hyde
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Lol ainsworth is 2000...here's more of him http://books.google.com/books?id=MmO6rXOyvasC&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&ots=Kj4ZXTUOog&focus=viewport&dq=cannabis+x+to+autosome+sex+determination&output=html_text

All these people and my own testimony.
There is no y..it has never been found..it ain't there .obviously I'm parroting scientific sources and studies? Like wtf where else would accurate info come from

Tell me how you think it works then huh?

You literally have dozens of credible people backing this..none backing whatever yalls hypothesis is..y'all have no clue though haha
And there is no y!!!! Its not there..an x but no y..hence the xa system that relies on hormones like ethylene (just a random example)
One last time..without the xa system fem seeds would be impossible

Why are y'all so upset and not wanting to listen..besides people with degrees famous growers have found the same thing to be true
 
SableZen

SableZen

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qwizoking said:
Lol ainsworth is 2000...here's more of him http://books.google.com/books?id=MmO6rXOyvasC&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&ots=Kj4ZXTUOog&focus=viewport&dq=cannabis+x+to+autosome+sex+determination&output=html_text

All these people and my own testimony.
There is no y..it has never been found..it ain't there .obviously I'm parroting scientific sources and studies? Like wtf where else would accurate info come from

Tell me how you think it works then huh?

You literally have dozens of credible people backing this..none backing whatever yalls hypothesis is..y'all have no clue though haha
And there is no y!!!! Its not there..an x but no y..hence the xa system that relies on hormones like ethylene (just a random example)
One last time..without the xa system fem seeds would be impossible

Why are y'all so upset and not wanting to listen..besides people with degrees famous growers have found the same thing to be true
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You are all over the place. Temperature is most definitely not the most important deciding factor in the expression of sex with cannabis plants according to some of the very same sources you cited yourself. You are a hack - an arrogantly ignorant one at that.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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No I've been saying temps since September?
And I use the same copy paste so the posts haven't changed...but whatever bro
None of anything I cited said otherwise..anyway dueces

All you do is ignore my sources..how do you propose sex is determined. Why don't you write a book like those guys and get famous..but they do have phd's and such to back them...
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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ok after all that how to keep my plants female then???? and if you look at photos of mine can you tell sex yet I've posted over 100 photos
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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anyways guys my temp is 78-80 great fresh air being brought in but its 11 degree air lol but is heated before ever reaching plant.. room is very dry at best 22%humidity 16% lowest. i don't use co2 i use fresh air. i use 500-700ppm from my tap water and its range is 222ppm alone. i use veg n bloom nutrients i spray a few times a day with my own mix. so far so good but as for sex of plants hell I'm not sure yet if anyone can tell please tell me View attachment 2991731IMG_2337.jpgIMG_2309.jpgIMG_2307.jpgIMG_2243.jpg
 
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