For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
This is what the green label growdan packaging should look like.
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3823

And the absorbant
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3827

Less water using growdan plus you can flood for less time do to how the growdan wicks water


a bag of growdan will fill 50buckets so if you went 50/50 you could fill 100 buckets :)
Loose fill growdan you just throw in the bucket and plant.

although its good to do a pre-charge before with half strength solution to pre-charge and rinse
out and particals in the medium
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
This is what the green label growdan packaging should look like.
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3823

And the absorbant
http://www.hydrofarm.com/product.php?itemid=3827

Less water using growdan plus you can flood for less time do to how the growdan wicks water


a bag of growdan will fill 50buckets so if you went 50/50 you could fill 100 buckets :)
Loose fill growdan you just throw in the bucket and plant.

although its good to do a pre-charge before with half strength solution to pre-charge and rinse
out and particals in the medium
I was worried about price when I looked them up earlier, but if they go that far Ill def have to try em out next time.

Ill have to see what it looks like...it says granules and wool, so I guess the 2 parts are different looking....?

Google images...looks very interesting.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
They look almost the same.. Price point is worth it over washing rock! You think new rock is bad lol
wait till you get to clean once or twice used rock with all the roots = nightmare
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
They look almost the same.. Price point is worth it over washing rock! You think new rock is bad lol
wait till you get to clean once or twice used rock with all the roots = nightmare
I bet it is.

I spent 2 hrs washing the new stuff and it still leaves dust in pots res etc...
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
Bro do a run off test to see where the ph is. The stones are around 7. Did you soak them for a few days in ph of 5.0?
I didnt know that I had to do that.
The ph has stabilized now though.

I have found that the water I use has a ph rise for 1-2 days, or 4-6 hrs if I bubble it.

I get water prepared in advance now, and am having way less issue and plants are looking way better.

Thanx for the help
 
I stopped using hydro stone! Works great for the 2nd and 3rd run! 1st I always had problems with ph swings! Had to do run off then adjust nutes to make the run off 5.5! I would check just before the next feeding and the ph would be above 6. I use canna coco in smart pots with my ebb monster! Check out the oxygen pot system. Also if anyone looking to save some cash of with grow bulb blow out sale @greners! Hortilux super hps for $59! Sweet deal! Plant max are $19
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
I stopped using hydro stone! Works great for the 2nd and 3rd run! 1st I always had problems with ph swings! Had to do run off then adjust nutes to make the run off 5.5! I would check just before the next feeding and the ph would be above 6. I use canna coco in smart pots with my ebb monster! Check out the oxygen pot system. Also if anyone looking to save some cash of with grow bulb blow out sale @greners! Hortilux super hps for $59! Sweet deal! Plant max are $19
EBB n GRO on roids lol nice
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
I followed the Lucas formula, and my ppm/EC seems too high.
I am using 145ppm tap water with GH Flora series 3 part using only Micro and Bloom and Micro 8ml/gal and Bloom 16ml/gal
PPM 1500 and ec 2.1 after a flood and drain I am down to 2.0ec and 1450ppm at .70 conv.
 
Using a lil to much! I use 6ml of micro an 9 ml of bloom. Ppms are around 750 800!ph is 5.5! 900 to 1000 on my 6 to 7 ft tall ones. Yours must be around 4.5 or 5 with that mix. Are you using ph up? After 30 days I pull micro an use kool bloom powder! Works great!
heres what I use! Last pull using 2 600z with 5 plants was 35 oz's

You've been asking exactly how I do what I do,with ferts, for a good long time.
This is a recipe for anybody to follow,based on my decade-plus experiences with GenHy's Flora Series.
It does smokin' good for me,your results may vary.
I'm always tweaking the above,and you should,too.






==The Recipe==




(All Products are GenHydro,pH at 5.5 pH)
(All measurements are per gal.)
6ml flora micro
9ml flora bloom
Kool-Bloom POWDER


VEGETATIVE STAGE AT 24 HRS. LIGHT ON
(18/6,optional)


Veg,Feed:


6ml flora micro
9ml flora bloom


Use the above 1/2-strength on seedlings and clones to 10" tall,then feed full-strength>on.








Based on 63 day 12/12 Flower Cycle:


Day 1-14
6ml micro
9ml bloom


Day 15-21
6ml micro
9ml bloom
1 tsp./Gal. Kool-Bloom POWDER (ONE FEED,DAY 15!)


Day 22-28
6ml micro
9ml Bloom


Day 29-35
9ml Bloom
1 tsp./gal. Kool-Bloom POWDER (ONE FEED,DAY 29!)


Day 36-52
9 ml Bloom
(AND ON DAY 36,a 1 tsp./gal Kool-Bloom POWDER Slam!!)


Day 52-63 (Flush)
5.5-6.0 pH h20 at 50 ppm




Now you know!!










ADDENDUM 9-6-09:


I've seen yields increase about 15% (!!) with the above modifications.
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
Ok I am gonna water it down.

BTW I have tap water.

IDK why the LUCAS site shows such a high concentration.

I have to use ph down still if you can believe that, as my tap will rise to over 9 after it airs out
 

bassman999

Well-Known Member
How big are your girls? Any burning on the tips?
I have a laundry list of strains.
I dont make anything easy.

With that said, the sativas (Pineapple and SLH) are clawing with slight tip burn, but the rest are really coming alive!

They are all between 13" and 19" from the clay balls.
This is a few inches taller than a few days ago.

They were stagnant after transplant into the ebb for 7 days or so, but when the roots hit the bottom the did take off just as everyone said they would.
 

GreenDyl

Active Member
Anyone got any experience with adding airstones into individual buckets? I am getting root rot for the first time in a oceanus 4 gal bucket system from the roots sitting in the water. Temps are 69 ph is stable anywhere from 5.5-6.2. I run heis tea every 2 weeks. Its a heavy indica strain so i was thinking maybe the genetics on this one really just don't like being watered so much.
 

GreenDyl

Active Member
I added airstones to rez with 20 watt pump and Dutch Master Zone to rez just below medium strength acc to their website and my rez seems to be doing way better now with similar temps
So obviously you weren't running heisenbergs tea then or what? I think I'm about to go load up on airstones tomorrow. Ill let you guys know what happens hopefully its straight. Im starting my second week of flower so this is crucial.
 
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