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Ted Nugent - Obama a Subhuman Mongrel

Doer

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Might makes right!

The simple legal fact is that the president cannot make law. It is illegal for him/her to do so. Whether a "potted plant" congress stands by fecklessly while the president assumes their proper role is irrelevant to the legality of it.

One wonders whether the US will eventually reach a tipping point and we get our very own Putin.
You bettcha! We set up the Presidency to be mighty. And anyone who tries to say, might is not what makes right, or that we can have any Right without might, better go back a few chapters and review.

Putin is good for Russia and when we need one, by gawd, we will have one. Obama is our Putin on a civil rights breakthrough, right now. Duh.

With a little bit of magnetic ink, WE could have Obama as VP and Biden as President, and then switch back. 24 years of OBO, if we needed that.

The Constitution is a living, breathing thing. It can be Amended almost over night, certainly within a few months, these days.

If WE need it, WE get it. The States call the shots. What we call the Federal govt, is just the Godfather complex for the States themselves. It only exists, in whole or in part, at the will and Vote of the States and the People in the various States.

Convenience 75% of States on a 50% vote is all that is required.

Right now, things are pretty boring so, we chaff. But, sometimes it gets very interesting...like the cold war.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
All that shit was contained in the final bill?? Amazing!!! Show me the part where I can buy health insurance across state lines!!

Oh wait, that wasnt in the bill... WTF???

You got played boy!!
Yeah IN THE FINAL BILL AND MADE INTO LAW

Almost no one is noting the extraordinary influence Republicans had on the healthcare reform bill crafted by the Senate, as it made its way through the committee process last year. The bill approved by Sen. Christopher Dodd’s Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee, for instance, included 161 amendments authored by Republicans. Only 49 Republican amendments were rejected out of 210 considered. Yet the bill got zero Republican votes when it passed out of the committee.
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/hcr_amendments/

btw
Your Stupidity Bores me
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
You can't buy insurance across state lines. Not in the Constitution. It is still the same pack of lies along with the Debt Crisis....oh my.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I don't know, but its dead. You can close your mouth now and take out those big contact lens.
 

UncleBuck

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Maybe impeachment of the president is in order if he insists that he is the king

maybe if he ever acted like a king, you'd have a point, crybaby. last time i checked, a king or dictator wouldn't have to beg congress to simply not default.

Obama bombed Libya

war powers act, crybaby.
  • 11 million illegal immigrants

i understand you want to kick out the innocent kids who are here through no fault of their own, but not everyone shares your xenophobia, bigotry, and outright racism, ya crying old bitch.


drones to kill Americans

after due process given, crybaby.



they spy on all of us all the time


and that somehow wasn't a problem with you for the 40+ years prior that it went on, crybaby.


the president has modified the Affordable Care Act
he took an oath to "faithfully execute the laws" and has transitional authority to implement the PPACA, ya crying sack of shit.
 

Doer

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So, who invented Executive Orders? Well? Who do you think?

On June 8, 1789, three months after he was sworn in as President of the United States, George Washington sent an instruction to the holdover officers of the Confederation government asking each of them to prepare a report "to impress me with a full, precise, and distinct general idea of the affairs of the United States" that they each handled.[SUP]3[/SUP]

Every chief executive has the inherent power to order subordinates to prepare reports for him on the performance of their duties. The United States Constitution expressly provides that the President may require his principal officers to prepare such reports.[SUP]4[/SUP]
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2001/02/the-use-and-abuse-of-executive-orders-and-other-presidential-directives
 

jahbrudda

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he took an oath to "faithfully execute the laws" and has transitional authority to implement the PPACA, ya crying sack of shit.
[h=1]The Presidential Oath of Office[/h] The oath to be taken by the president on first entering office is specified in Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution:




I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.


[h=3]Clause 5: Caring for the faithful execution of the law[/h] The President must "take care that the laws be faithfully executed."[SUP][[/SUP] This clause in the Constitution imposes a duty on the President to take due care while executing laws and is called the Take Care Clause,[SUP] [/SUP]also known as the Faithful Execution Clause[SUP][/SUP] or Faithfully Executed Clause.[SUP][/SUP]This clause is meant to ensure that a law is faithfully executed by the President,[SUP][[/SUP]even if he disagrees with the purpose of that law.[SUP][[/SUP]
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Emancipation Proclamation (Lincoln - written)

New Deal (E.O. 7034)

Desegregation of the Armed Forces (HS Truman - verbal)

Japanese-American Internment (E.O. 9066)

Indian Reservations (US Grant - verbal)

Executive Orders Spelled Out (E.O. 5658 ) 8)

Patronage (various apportionment and waivers of the civil service exams, etc)

Torch Hunting Banned (E.O. 1884)

In short, we ain't seen nothing yet.
 

jahbrudda

Well-Known Member
So, who invented Executive Orders? Well? Who do you think?

On June 8, 1789, three months after he was sworn in as President of the United States, George Washington sent an instruction to the holdover officers of the Confederation government asking each of them to prepare a report "to impress me with a full, precise, and distinct general idea of the affairs of the United States" that they each handled.[SUP]3[/SUP]

Every chief executive has the inherent power to order subordinates to prepare reports for him on the performance of their duties. The United States Constitution expressly provides that the President may require his principal officers to prepare such reports.[SUP]4[/SUP]
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2001/02/the-use-and-abuse-of-executive-orders-and-other-presidential-directives
For me, it's not the amount of EO',s it's the type of EO's Obama has undertaken.
The constitutions does not give the president the power to change laws, taxes or choose citizens and groups who must abide by them, I think we can all agree on that.
 

Doer

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The Presidential Oath of Office

The oath to be taken by the president on first entering office is specified in Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution:




I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.


Clause 5: Caring for the faithful execution of the law

The President must "take care that the laws be faithfully executed."[SUP][[/SUP] This clause in the Constitution imposes a duty on the President to take due care while executing laws and is called the Take Care Clause,also known as the Faithful Execution Clause or Faithfully Executed Clause.This clause is meant to ensure that a law is faithfully executed by the President,[SUP][[/SUP]even if he disagrees with the purpose of that law.[SUP][[/SUP]
Well, it most depends on what the meaning of is, is.

What is Faithful Execution, anyway? I assure you it is not some layman's feeling about it. Hey, let's asked Obama, he is the expert on this.

Why give the opinion about it if we can read it for ourselves?

Article II, Section 3: Presidential responsibilities

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

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It obviously doesn't matter what anyone thinks. It is simply what that President can do at that time, and no one can stop him.

Not about should or should not, just like pardons.
 

UncleBuck

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Only media matters and the democrat underground will meet your standards of reliability, right buck?
have you ever even seen me post anything from either of those two dead horses you keep beating on?

derp dee der, you're a fucking dumbass.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
heritage is a shitty source for anything, even if it is just compiling straightforward data. they are not to be trusted.



their stats do look accurate in this case though.
Better chart, thanks. BTW, read my lips. I trust no source, and can use and abuse it all.
 
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