bassman999
Well-Known Member
Is root overgrowth a common problem with this system?
I am still vegging, but all buckets have roots hanging down like 6" or so
I am still vegging, but all buckets have roots hanging down like 6" or so
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GreenDyl
Active Member
Im in my 2nd cycle of using this system and i feel like the roots clog up the T pieces within a couple days after i prune the roots. Its a pain in the ass and if left unchecked can lead to root rot and all the tribulations that come with it. AKA deficiencies and wilting.
bassman999
Well-Known Member
Maybe some sort of screen in the buckets would help.
When you prune roots do you just chop off all the roots that come through inner bucket?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
For the titan system you can purchase a sqaure smart pot custom fitted to the inner bucket this should slow
root clogging way down. As for the cap systems a #2 smart pot fits it perfect
root clogging way down. As for the cap systems a #2 smart pot fits it perfect
GreenMountain71
Member
My buddy uses 1 in PVC with 1in hose to connect to buckets. No clogging at all now! He now switched to the smart pots which make the system flawless!
GreenMountain71
Member
The biggest flaw in the cap system! Also the water left in the buckets!
bassman999
Well-Known Member
Did he drill the bucket holes bigger??
Smart pot instead of or with the inner buckets?
Would raising the buckets help at all?
GreenMountain71
Member
Yes , put a 2x6 or 2x8 under bucket which will drain water back to controller.
He changed bucket to white and uses a 3 gallon smart pot with a stand on inside of bucket. Leaves a little room for the smart pots to air prune. If their tight the roots will go through and do the same. I'll post some pics this week
He changed bucket to white and uses a 3 gallon smart pot with a stand on inside of bucket. Leaves a little room for the smart pots to air prune. If their tight the roots will go through and do the same. I'll post some pics this week
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I am interested in pics of the internal stands
GreenMountain71
Member
Here's what I've been using for the last 18months but with white buckets. With black buckets roots still go crazy. White buckets they air prune. You'll still get some roots hanging in the water so I used some rubber flooring that's about 1/2 to 3/4 thick to put pots on but keep controller on floor helps get the excess water out the lines.stand are metal with a rubber coating for any family dollar. Lots if people give me shit because metal is a nute leach. I've had no problems. My buddy used 5 or 6in PVC to make his stands. I'm currently changing to the oxygen pot system expansion kit which I'll post tomorrow. Don't use teas. Just a mod Lucas formula with a whole week flush with kleen and h2o2 in that last week before harvest. (Also flush every 2 res changes)
GreenMountain71
Member
I also change my lines every year (to buckets) avoids problems for me. They get nasty
budtoker0987
Active Member
Hey Bassman, i keep up on The Mainlining Thread and a guy said you were running a side by side of a cap ebb and flow and Hempy's ? Is this right? I'm doing the same, or was, then pulled, then am going to start again but. Lemme know if your doing that or not. I have a couple questions for ya
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I like the ideas you have used here.
I will raise the pots in some way, and will buy new lines.
Ill think about the changing of pots and internals too.
I am, but not a great grower, and my hempys are ebb n gro buckets with hose still on and I drain anything above 2" every time I feed.
they are really lagging behind the recirc system, and prolly mostly because I am feeding them whenever I remember.
I mean they arent ever droopiong, but I only feed like every 3-4 days.
Maybe Ill post a pic
GreenMountain71
Member
Here's my last mess! Trees!
budtoker0987
Active Member
Bassman, oh i see. What im basically wondering is, will the different meduims in the same room not mesh well? cuz my buckets are straight hydroton. My hempy's are hydroton to the drain hole, then 3to1 perlite vermiculite mix and another layer of hydrot at the top, just to keep the top nice and flat.
What i did was throw two hempy buckets that we decided not to keep as mothers in the bud room. like a week later we seein, not everywhere, but a couple on each one (two plants) i pull it off and its like glass-like very smooth but if you put pressure on it, it would smush or burst.. Had to be an egg of some kind. Just trying to find out if it wass a fluke,,, or it will happen again... or what... the main crap was not affected. thankfully
What i did was throw two hempy buckets that we decided not to keep as mothers in the bud room. like a week later we seein, not everywhere, but a couple on each one (two plants) i pull it off and its like glass-like very smooth but if you put pressure on it, it would smush or burst.. Had to be an egg of some kind. Just trying to find out if it wass a fluke,,, or it will happen again... or what... the main crap was not affected. thankfully
bassman999
Well-Known Member
I think that should be fine, thought it might change what the desired watering intervals would or should be...based on water holding of different mediums.
I think perlite and vermiculite hold more water that hydroton.
budtoker0987
Active Member
True for sure. Do you think, getting those lil eggs was from the type of perlite and vermiculite? I mean, its -0 Fahrenheit out here so there arent any live bugs "getting in"
bassman999
Well-Known Member
My eyes arent good enough to know if I have ever had any lil eggs.
Some bugs are attracted to moist environments, and over-watering might lead to it.
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
On my version I used 2x4s on the floor to set my buckets on and then I drilled my drain holes in the bottom instead of the side so all water drains out. Simple T fitting from bottom allows for exact flood and complete empty. I take 2 2x4s lay them flap so I have about 2 inches under the buckets the T and line sit between the 2 boards and run under the buckets to the brain bucket
bassman999
Well-Known Member
So I am getting the idea of roots not in water is a better idea that the original design.
Fletch did you use different buckets or the ones it came with and just plug side holes?
Fletch did you use different buckets or the ones it came with and just plug side holes?