What to start a small grow?

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Horsepower

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I new to this i want to start off with maybe three plants how many lights should I use what strain is the best could someone give me information on a book or site to help me from start to finish.
 
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GreenThumbTony

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Instead of using dwarf genetics, go with 3-6 good genetic auto seeds in the same rez (dwcbubbler) with a low watt CFL(250-500). 24/0sched, and anywhere from 1/4 to 1/3 recommended nutes. if you know how to scrog, that'd boost your yield if you start low.
 
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StanlySpedowski

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I'd pick an Indica to start with, maybe something with Afghani in it. Try to find something that is resistant to pests/diseases.

Here is what I learned my first grow. Keep it simple to start with. You're going to be making a lot of mistakes. I would not add to the difficulty by trying dwc or any other fancy techniquies you see here (sog, scrog, lollipopping, etc...). If you keep it simple, you'll see what makes the plant work and vice versa. You can add other nutrients and techniques as you need them and have more experience. I think you'll be surprised how well you can grow plants by keeping it to the basics.

Again, DO NOT attempt hydroponic on your first grow. Get some decent soil. You wont have to worry about PHing the water and you have a lot more room for error with the soil acting as a buffer between the nutrients and the plants. All you're going to do is overwhelm yourself with a complicated dwc set up that if you know what you're doing can maybe produce more yield, but you will most likely end up with not a lot to show for it and be frustrated.

Start with a simple nutrient such as dynagro foliage pro. It is very cheap and has everything a plant needs in 1 bottle. I have grown the plants in my journal with only foliage pro and a little bit of their bloom food mixed in the last 2-3 weeks depending on how the plant looks.

I'd get a cheap light like a apollo horticulture off of amazon. I have 1 of their 600w lights and it works very well and is extremely cheap for what you get. This is your first grow, you dont want to spend a bunch of money in case growing isn't for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK400GW192HPS-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B00CSYU5M4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1393586955&sr=8-5&keywords=400w+apollo+hps

I guarantee you if you take the time to understand the plants, you can grow really good plants with not a whole lot of investment to start with.

Books, I'd go with this 1 to get you started:

http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Growers-Insiders-Guide-Frank/dp/0929349008/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1393586457&sr=1-1&keywords=marijuana+mel+frank

In the end its your grow and your money, but I wish someone had taken the time to tell me this when I started. Could have saved a lot of hassle and money.
 
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GreenThumbTony

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StanlySpedowski said:
I'd pick an Indica to start with, maybe something with Afghani in it. Try to find something that is resistant to pests/diseases.

Here is what I learned my first grow. Keep it simple to start with. You're going to be making a lot of mistakes. I would not add to the difficulty by trying dwc or any other fancy techniquies you see here (sog, scrog, lollipopping, etc...). If you keep it simple, you'll see what makes the plant work and vice versa. You can add other nutrients and techniques as you need them and have more experience. I think you'll be surprised how well you can grow plants by keeping it to the basics.

Again, DO NOT attempt hydroponic on your first grow. Get some decent soil. You wont have to worry about PHing the water and you have a lot more room for error with the soil acting as a buffer between the nutrients and the plants. All you're going to do is overwhelm yourself with a complicated dwc set up that if you know what you're doing can maybe produce more yield, but you will most likely end up with not a lot to show for it and be frustrated.

Start with a simple nutrient such as dynagro foliage pro. It is very cheap and has everything a plant needs in 1 bottle. I have grown the plants in my journal with only foliage pro and a little bit of their bloom food mixed in the last 2-3 weeks depending on how the plant looks.

I'd get a cheap light like a apollo horticulture off of amazon. I have 1 of their 600w lights and it works very well and is extremely cheap for what you get. This is your first grow, you dont want to spend a bunch of money in case growing isn't for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK400GW192HPS-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B00CSYU5M4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1393586955&sr=8-5&keywords=400w+apollo+hps

I guarantee you if you take the time to understand the plants, you can grow really good plants with not a whole lot of investment to start with.

Books, I'd go with this 1 to get you started:

http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Growers-Insiders-Guide-Frank/dp/0929349008/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1393586457&sr=1-1&keywords=marijuana+mel+frank

In the end its your grow and your money, but I wish someone had taken the time to tell me this when I started. Could have saved a lot of hassle and money.
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this makes dwc seem horrific to a newcomer or noob. im a newb myself and run bubbleponics setup and is super easy to me
 
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jartlow

Well-Known Member
A great response. I'm extremely a noob myself. I'm attempting for the second time a first grow. After failing the first attempt I about gave up.. anyways I've learned so much from that failure that I've applied to this 2nd attempt.

I did pick up ed rosenthal's grower's handbook. . It doesn't have every answer but it's definitely a start.


I just wanna say -You need a lot more than a seed, dirt, and light.. but at the same time that's all you need.



StanlySpedowski said:
I'd pick an Indica to start with, maybe something with Afghani in it. Try to find something that is resistant to pests/diseases.

Here is what I learned my first grow. Keep it simple to start with. You're going to be making a lot of mistakes. I would not add to the difficulty by trying dwc or any other fancy techniquies you see here (sog, scrog, lollipopping, etc...). If you keep it simple, you'll see what makes the plant work and vice versa. You can add other nutrients and techniques as you need them and have more experience. I think you'll be surprised how well you can grow plants by keeping it to the basics.

Again, DO NOT attempt hydroponic on your first grow. Get some decent soil. You wont have to worry about PHing the water and you have a lot more room for error with the soil acting as a buffer between the nutrients and the plants. All you're going to do is overwhelm yourself with a complicated dwc set up that if you know what you're doing can maybe produce more yield, but you will most likely end up with not a lot to show for it and be frustrated.

Start with a simple nutrient such as dynagro foliage pro. It is very cheap and has everything a plant needs in 1 bottle. I have grown the plants in my journal with only foliage pro and a little bit of their bloom food mixed in the last 2-3 weeks depending on how the plant looks.

I'd get a cheap light like a apollo horticulture off of amazon. I have 1 of their 600w lights and it works very well and is extremely cheap for what you get. This is your first grow, you dont want to spend a bunch of money in case growing isn't for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK400GW192HPS-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B00CSYU5M4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1393586955&sr=8-5&keywords=400w+apollo+hps

I guarantee you if you take the time to understand the plants, you can grow really good plants with not a whole lot of investment to start with.

Books, I'd go with this 1 to get you started:

http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Growers-Insiders-Guide-Frank/dp/0929349008/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1393586457&sr=1-1&keywords=marijuana+mel+frank

In the end its your grow and your money, but I wish someone had taken the time to tell me this when I started. Could have saved a lot of hassle and money.
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StanlySpedowski

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GreenThumbTony said:
this makes dwc seem horrific to a newcomer or noob. im a newb myself and run bubbleponics setup and is super easy to me
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I checked out your first grow thread. Your plants look ok, but you havent completed anything so I wouldn't spout off how easy it is just yet.

Also, the advice was more from a perspective of a beginner not knowing what is wrong when something goes bad, not against hydroponics in general.

With dwc you have to worry about:

water temp
water ph
water circulation
pumps need to be maintained

All extra stuff that can go wrong very easily.
 
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