Gun Ownership to prevent Tyrants ???

UNICRONLIVES

UNICRONLIVES

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Just look at Switzerland..whats your answer to that?! that country is closing prisons not opening new privately owned ones.
 
spazatak

spazatak

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UNICRONLIVES said:
why say that..because people had different opinions other than your own?!...how bout the people who mass murder are all on SSRI's ...prolly such as yourself w/ all your hostility!! And for the record my niece was shot and kill at 4yrs old...i dont hold that gun responsible and contrary to YOUR belief....the tighter you squeeze something...the MORE shit slips thru!!

and YES it does lead to it..just ask Germany..
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perhaps you should read up a bit more on history before using examples that dont support your point and in the end damage your argument more than highlight it.
 
spazatak

spazatak

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UNICRONLIVES said:
lol..your ignorance preceeds you!! no sense in arguing w/ a rock. enjoy!!
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Giving up so easily is a sign of a) dont know what youre talking about or b) dont have any facts to back up your statements
but... please tell me how Hitlers gun reforms was the secret to his success in becoming a Dictator....

just getting the popcorn ready give me a minute
 
spazatak

spazatak

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UNICRONLIVES said:
lol..your ignorance preceeds you!! no sense in arguing w/ a rock. enjoy!!

here you go RE RE its what Hitler did to take the people guns AND rights from them


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree
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haha... wikipedia.. but anyway I'll play along....

You have given me an article which indicates rather loosely how Hitler became a Dictator.... could you please copy and paste where it says he implemented gun control legislation to assist his efforts in controlling the country
 
spazatak

spazatak

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UNICRONLIVES said:
http://www.infowars.com/yes-hitler-really-did-take-the-guns-before-throwing-jews-into-concentration-camps-or-gas-chambers/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany


but its ok to take them from just the Jews right....
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Heres an article which state the opposite:

The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,”

Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns

http://The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns



you guys need to get some history lessons that arent from the NRA handbook
 
UNICRONLIVES

UNICRONLIVES

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spazatak said:
Heres an article which state the opposite:

The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,”

Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns

http://The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns



you guys need to get some history lessons that arent from the NRA handbook
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hows that for a pun...shot yourself in the foot didnt ya. so your ok w/ them takin guns from the Jews right!?...
 
spazatak

spazatak

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UNICRONLIVES said:
hows that for a pun...shot yourself in the foot didnt ya. so your ok w/ them takin guns from the Jews right!?...
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if you think the 500,000 jews of the 67 MILLION population wouldve beaten the Germans had they had guns


Its funny how you use your selective reading to use the banning of Jews having guns to claim it supports your point but you fail to mention how Hitler made it easier for others to obtain guns...

Now you said that Hitler made it more difficult for people to own guns and thats how he became a dictator... he actually made it more difficult for .75% of the popluation.... so for the other 99.25% he made it easier... tell me agina how this supports your argument?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Winter Woman said:
I don't see a citation, but I do see an insult. Still waiting.
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from unicron's own link:

[h=3]The 1938 German Weapons Act[edit][/h]The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." But under the new law:

  • Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."[SUP][3][/SUP]
  • The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[SUP][4][/SUP]
  • Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[SUP][4][/SUP]
  • The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[SUP][3][/SUP]
 
Doer

Doer

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UncleBuck said:
hitler expanded gun rights to most.
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You can say what you want about Hitler. This is Germany today.

Gun legislation in Germany is considered among the strictest gun control in the world.

However the mud people at Mother Jones want to twist the facts. Denying all firearm protection to Jews added to already the very tight restriction from Versatile 1919 Armistice Terms. And true Hitler did expand some right, also. But, the result was still massive restriction for the average citizen. Not ever did it result in this lie, as usual.
hitler expanded gun rights to most.

But, Germany has always been and still is a very strict society.
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The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." But under the new law:

  • Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."[SUP][3][/SUP]
  • The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[SUP][4][/SUP]
  • Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[SUP][4][/SUP]
  • The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[SUP][3][/SUP]
  • Jews were prohibited from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms. They were also forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.[SUP][3][/SUP]
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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spazatak said:
if you think the 500,000 jews of the 67 MILLION population wouldve beaten the Germans had they had guns


Its funny how you use your selective reading to use the banning of Jews having guns to claim it supports your point but you fail to mention how Hitler made it easier for others to obtain guns...

Now you said that Hitler made it more difficult for people to own guns and thats how he became a dictator... he actually made it more difficult for .75% of the popluation.... so for the other 99.25% he made it easier... tell me agina how this supports your argument?
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these historically challenged idiots don't realize that hitler became dictator through the ballot box. gun registration was already enacted before he came in and hitler loosened it for most.

and, as you pointed out, 67 million germans sat by and watched with guns as they took the jews away, just like winterwoman sits idly by and wonders why gays would want access to the same goods and services that the rest of us have access to.
 
Winter Woman

Winter Woman

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UncleBuck said:
from unicron's own link:

The 1938 German Weapons Act[edit]

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." But under the new law:

  • Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."[SUP][3][/SUP]
  • The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[SUP][4][/SUP]
  • Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[SUP][4][/SUP]
  • The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[SUP][3][/SUP]
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Where's the rest of it. Oh that's right you cherry pick. Don't worry Doer handled that for you
 
Winter Woman

Winter Woman

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UncleBuck said:
these historically challenged idiots don't realize that hitler became dictator through the ballot box. gun registration was already enacted before he came in and hitler loosened it for most.

and, as you pointed out, 67 million germans sat by and watched with guns as they took the jews away, just like winterwoman sits idly by and wonders why gays would want access to the same goods and services that the rest of us have access to.
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Nice try but off topic.
 
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