I mess up bad some how . i have lots of pictures plz help a brother out.

pSi007

pSi007

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safari420 said:
i will do a flush with 7 ph water. and ill look for new nutrients. these numbers are confusing 3-0-3 or 1-0.5-3 etc. in a simple way what should i look for when buying nutes?
all natural no toxic what ales? thanks everyone for taking the time i will hopefully be able to pay forward.
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It depends where you are located.. In Nor-Cal, we have a large selection of fertz for rock-bottom prices. If you are in Europe, a fert we might suggest could wind up costing you wayyy more than you wish to spend, and we agree..

Jay'dawg is hitting every work with 100% accuracy. some really good and down-to-earth advice.


regarding an additive, the soil you use should have 90% of what a plant can use. I have noticed a general rule-of-thumb that I get about 1 ounce per gallon of soil. No nutes are needed, just water. This is what I did in the past.. It really is the fault of a hydro-store guy trying to sell something the soil has already given you.

if you want me to recommend something, try Earth Juice if you can get it cheap and use 1/4 or 1/2 mix. Earth Juice is made a few miles from where I live and I know some of the workers. lol.. but, ya know..


lastly, i would recommend a soil/perlite mix and stay away from all fertilizers. :) Learn a few crops before you inject fert into fresh soil.
 
safari420

safari420

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pSi007 said:
It depends where you are located.. In Nor-Cal, we have a large selection of fertz for rock-bottom prices. If you are in Europe, a fert we might suggest could wind up costing you wayyy more than you wish to spend, and we agree..

Jay'dawg is hitting every work with 100% accuracy. some really good and down-to-earth advice.


regarding an additive, the soil you use should have 90% of what a plant can use. I have noticed a general rule-of-thumb that I get about 1 ounce per gallon of soil. No nutes are needed, just water. This is what I did in the past.. It really is the fault of a hydro-store guy trying to sell something the soil has already given you.

if you want me to recommend something, try Earth Juice if you can get it cheap and use 1/4 or 1/2 mix. Earth Juice is made a few miles from where I live and I know some of the workers. lol.. but, ya know..


lastly, i would recommend a soil/perlite mix and stay away from all fertilizers. :) Learn a few crops before you inject fert into fresh soil.
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im in Toronto Canada
is this the Earth Juice
http://www.amazon.ca/Hydro-Organics-HOJ05299-1-Quart-Meta-K/dp/B005MAH71S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395535730&sr=8-1&keywords=Earth+Juice
 
bigworm6969

bigworm6969

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isnt promix a soiless medium, i run general hydro 3 part which is good for the whole lifecycle of the plant, i think by just doing the grow part a and b and not the bloom part a and b ur haveing problems u need to get the bloom nutez, i think flushing is a good idea and get a bloom nutez i have been running gh 3 part 4 years now and no problems just have to check ph so u dont get any nute lockouts
 
safari420

safari420

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i had a brain fart when i took the pic of the nutrients those are the veg nutes i have been using the bloom ver for flowerring
 
pSi007

pSi007

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safari420 said:
man i hate amazon.ca little selection. amazon.com wont send to canada
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lol.. ebay? You will not need veg fert if you are using a fresh batch of that Pro-Mix soil. In fact, I doubt you will need bloom fert with that soil unless you grow a stalk the size of your arm in a 4-gallon bucket (4mo+ healthy in veg).

I would say to use only water and that soil has plenty of fert in it to grow a 4 month old plant in 2 gallon or 3 gallon containers. make sure your water is good and not more than 300ppm of TDS. You may need only 1 or 2 boosts in mid-bloom with that soil, nothing else as long as the pots are large enough.

I have grown 5ounces in a 1gallon container but it is a bitch to keep in order, everything has to be perfect. Larger potting containers with soil is usually more forgiving so long as your hydro-shop guy does not poison your chit.

:weed:
 
safari420

safari420

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pSi007 said:
lol.. ebay? You will not need veg fert if you are using a fresh batch of that Pro-Mix soil. In fact, I doubt you will need bloom fert with that soil unless you grow a stalk the size of your arm in a 4-gallon bucket (4mo+ healthy in veg).

I would say to use only water and that soil has plenty of fert in it to grow a 4 month old plant in 2 gallon or 3 gallon containers. make sure your water is good and not more than 300ppm of TDS. You may need only 1 or 2 boosts in mid-bloom with that soil, nothing else as long as the pots are large enough.

I have grown 5ounces in a 1gallon container but it is a bitch to keep in order, everything has to be perfect. Larger potting containers with soil is usually more forgiving so long as your hydro-shop guy does not poison your chit.

:weed:
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its making more sense. i really thought promix has no nutrients at all. just to make it clear i should try no nutes? just use the soil?
 
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jaybray

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safari420 said:
its making more sense. i really thought promix has no nutrients at all. just to make it clear i should try no nutes? just use the soil?
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If you don't use nutes I recommend micos or some other form of beneficial bacteria to get the root system vigorous.
 
Merlin34

Merlin34

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Pro mix has no nutes. None, zero. So the advise to not feed at all in pro mix is not good advise

Sent from Northern Colorado.
 
pSi007

pSi007

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Merlin34 said:
Pro mix has no nutes. None, zero. So the advise to not feed at all in pro mix is not good advise

Sent from Northern Colorado.
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hey Nor-Co, Nor-Cal here.. :grin: Please read my previous post and a confirmed selection by OP.
Organic............. No
Contains Plant Food/Fertilizer............. Yes

http://www.lowes.com/pd_383917-1803-383917_0__?productId=3734129
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I wrote other stuff.. forum java getting weird. Hopefully I can now edit? I remember what I was saying again. lol.. Over watering, over fert, too much heat, ect.. a few problems.. I think I see ammonia toxicity. anyway, remember, Always wait until the potting container goes through light and heavy cycles. A "wet" bucket will weigh 5x more than a "dry" bucket. Canna does not like being kept constantly wet or dry, try to keep it in the middle and go through cycles.

you don't need ferts with that, try without ferts and added salts. You can boost the bloom cycle with a few shots of Earth Juice Bloom or some, "non-salt based" additive.

jaybray said:
If you don't use nutes I recommend micos or some other form of beneficial bacteria to get the root system vigorous.
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check that stuff out, it's filled with fertz and fungi!
 
thump easy

thump easy

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thier is one thing that many grower neglect and it the brown spot the brown mold it can be grey and dry your leafs up and also do to stress the plants alows many things to invade yes flush the fuck out of it with water agreed second make shure room isnt to hot the other let me clear my throught cough cough yoda laaaay heee hoooo!!!!! okay air exchange man you need fresh air and clean air intake clean air with a hepa filter go ahead and spray one tea spoon baking soda to one liter of water thats a must this misteriose brown rust is a mother fucker it can be mastaken many times over i have for years so it should be not over looked and yes some how you caused the stress in the plant.. but that brown rust is many times over looked.. good luck. ow shit by the way NOR CO and NOR CAL this IS SO CAL lolz this is funny in a way..
 
pSi007

pSi007

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^^ hahaha... I grew up in So-Cal.. <3 Good idea with the HEPA re-runs..

edit, oh chit.. this may be affecting the "over-watering and, in turn, the calcium absorbtion".

OrganicNo
Contains Plant Food/FertilizerYes
Controls MoistureYes
EPA Registration NumberN/A



http://www.lowes.com/pd_383917-1803-383917_0__?productId=3734129


have to wonder what elements they put in chit, now days.. anyone know what this "Pro-mix" with fert is? Whats the pH?, is it a very heavy potting soil in TTDs? What is the NPK and macro/micro value? ect..
 
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jaybray

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pSi007 said:
^^ hahaha... I grew up in So-Cal.. <3 Good idea with the HEPA re-runs..

edit, oh chit.. this may be affecting the "over-watering and, in turn, the calcium absorbtion".

Organic
No
Contains Plant Food/Fertilizer
Yes
Controls Moisture
Yes
EPA Registration Number
N/A



http://www.lowes.com/pd_383917-1803-383917_0__?productId=3734129


have to wonder what elements they put in chit, now days.. anyone know what this "Pro-mix" with fert is? Whats the pH?, is it a very heavy potting soil in TTDs? What is the NPK and macro/micro value? ect..
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HP high porosity extra perlite this is the best pro mix.http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/pro-mix-hp-mycorrhizae-growing-medium/
 
Merlin34

Merlin34

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Hmmm... well THAT pro mix has nutes. I always used regular promix because it has no nutes. I don't like starting with anything in my grow medium

Sent from Northern Colorado.
 
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