Dc's Closet Grow Led/Cfl/HPS

DCobeen

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its the 3rd break down of molasses is what i know and you dont want much iron. that is why grandma's original is the best.
I wonder why unsulphured is better? Sulphur is good for plants and it results in sweeter fruit.
 

Cascadian

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DC as much as i love molasses it basically strangles ur plant with its ridiculously big carbon footprint.....i have used molasses in past grows and it doesnt hurt the plant perse but it def doesnt help....check out a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BjbW2KPbTw look for the part where he talks about molasses
Interesting video, have to take what he says about molasses with a grain of salt (he sells the "solution"). But, what he said does make sense I admit. Adding it in veg then a couple times early flower would seem to make sense so it can be broken down.................................... One thing I learned about was how damaging the extraction of bat guano is to bat populations. Those kinds of practices (destroying caves) really pisses me off....... That statement starts at about the 4:10 mark............. I've bought my last bag of bat guano........... Sorry for all the periods, RIU won't let me format anything at all, no paragraph breaks or anything.
 

Cascadian

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Hey DC, I did take your advice and added some fresh aloe vera juice to a couple waterings. The ladies seemed to like it, thanks man.
 

DCobeen

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yeah they are still working on the server so they shut stuff down here and there a few times i didnt have all the editing stuff and picture upload even. as far as molasses goes as long as you dissolve it in hot water then dilute it enough its all good. hey my c99 get 1/2 tbls a day and has for the last 20 days before that it was 1 tsp and before that 1/2 tsp. so if it hurts my plants someone for got to tell my plants that. i use molasses for cal/mag plus it has a couple extra things to offer. sure their is more expensive stuff and even better stuff. its what i do. we all have diff things we do when it comes to feeding our ladies. the only thing to remmber is make sure yours has low iron under 10% and the size of your pot(amount of soil) is how much it can be fed and break down. 1 tsp per gallon of soil max and 1 tbls per gallon of water/feed. like anything you have to transition them. start slow and build up. if you seen the pics im posting you know my ladies love there molasses. we love chocolate well they need there molasses. Good night all im off to bed. Oh yeah the ladies love the 600 hps the led is hard to even see its on lmao but i see it on a few leaves. will be interesting to see the diff of the ones that had no led.

Interesting video, have to take what he says about molasses with a grain of salt (he sells the "solution"). But, what he said does make sense I admit. Adding it in veg then a couple times early flower would seem to make sense so it can be broken down.................................... One thing I learned about was how damaging the extraction of bat guano is to bat populations. Those kinds of practices (destroying caves) really pisses me off....... That statement starts at about the 4:10 mark............. I've bought my last bag of bat guano........... Sorry for all the periods, RIU won't let me format anything at all, no paragraph breaks or anything.
 

DCobeen

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yw i give it too mine 1 time a week aloe vera now careful small amounts 1 tsp per 1/2 gallon. i also give them coco water 1 time a week but careful coco water is 4.5 ph so small does of it 1 tsp per gallon. this is my test grow. working out the bugs and kinks. my c99 is the only plant i got that didnt have an issue, well plugged airline(almost drowned them all except c99) and bad organic nutes. im gonna start adding Azomite and Mono potassium phosphate. so my flower times was off. my WW was put on 12/12 on march 7. it took me 8 days to get down to 12/12 from 20/4 so i have to say its really day 25 of flower. So i have 5 more weeks of her in flower. and 6 with BB and 7 with the other 3 plants. I cant believe how well they are doing considering i almost drowned them for a whole month. If i was using pure hydro they would be dead. okay now its time for bed.

Hey DC, I did take your advice and added some fresh aloe vera juice to a couple waterings. The ladies seemed to like it, thanks man.
 

Cascadian

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Can't argue with results. I use an unsulfered organic molasses I bought at Whole Foods. I will continue to use it, I have not been disolving it in hot water though, will do that going forward.

Btw, it looks like you might have encountered the same issue with not being able to format text or have any options in the reply box etc.

I posted a topic in support and churchhaze figured it out and posted a mini walkthrough with the fix.

Notice that I am able to actually put paragraph breaks in now... lol. You don't know what you have until lose it! Haha

Anyway, here is the thread that tells you how to fix it (if you are having that issue)... Instructions on pg 3.
https://www.rollitup.org/support/821595-account-problem-no-ability-format.html
 

DCobeen

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Please take a pic of the label you are using im curious to what lvl's of what are in yours brand of molasses. And ty for the link I'm heading their now.

Can't argue with results. I use an unsulfered organic molasses I bought at Whole Foods. I will continue to use it, I have not been disolving it in hot water though, will do that going forward.

Btw, it looks like you might have encountered the same issue with not being able to format text or have any options in the reply box etc.

I posted a topic in support and churchhaze figured it out and posted a mini walkthrough with the fix.

Notice that I am able to actually put paragraph breaks in now... lol. You don't know what you have until lose it! Haha

Anyway, here is the thread that tells you how to fix it (if you are having that issue)... Instructions on pg 3.
https://www.rollitup.org/support/821595-account-problem-no-ability-format.html
 

DCobeen

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Atttention things are getting Frosty in here. I turned on flash and you can see the magic of the led/hps at work.
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From outside the room you can see the light it looks dark straight back but there is light there that 600 hps is putting out the power.
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things are going great. oh lmao i double checked my air lines thank God i did one of my buckets was on top of a line that feeds the 3 back plants. its all good now.
 

Cascadian

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Please take a pic of the label you are using im curious to what lvl's of what are in yours brand of molasses. And ty for the link I'm heading their now.
Here are the pics of the label. The Iron is at 15%, I am thinking I will just use a little less, but I tend not to go too heavy with it anyway. It was the best stuff I could find at the time. I am almost out, I will look for something organic with less than 10% iron.
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That White Widow is looking nice!
 

DCobeen

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Order grandma's original its perfect for cal mag and use 1 tsp per gallon of soil with 1 gallon of water/feed. now it can vary a bit but its perfect. see she makes a low balance so you really cant over do it with grandma's.
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Cascadian

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Wow, it's crazy how different the labels are! Grandma's has 2% calcium and magnesium, with 3% potassium and the Whole foods has 8% magnesium and 10% calcium, with 20% potassium? It does have 7 times the iron though. I will definitely be using less until I run out and then maybe pick up some Grandma's...
 

DCobeen

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i got ber rabbit that has higher also its iron is 15% so im gonna mix it half and half with grandmas. so the iron gets lower and i can use it.
Wow, it's crazy how different the labels are! Grandma's has 2% calcium and magnesium, with 3% potassium and the Whole foods has 8% magnesium and 10% calcium, with 20% potassium? It does have 7 times the iron though. I will definitely be using less until I run out and then maybe pick up some Grandma's...
 

DCobeen

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okay here is a couple pics at light out.
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below is Blue berry she is 1 week behind the WW on top.
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DCobeen

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yeah a grass smell lol. they are not old enough to really put a fragrance out yet. give them 2 weeks then they will and there buds will be 3x bigger im sure. they are growing so fast with that 600 hps its not even funny. in am ill have to pull out all plants and check to make sure they are not getting bleached or burnt. I had to back my nutes down to 900 again the 1100 i tried was just a bit to much. I submitted 3 pics to skunl mag i cant find where to at high times. my plants in flower 5 of them drank almost 3 gallons of nute water at 900 ppm today. they are thirsty. I dont know how you all do just soil and guess. i love i got water gauges so i just fill to the top of lava rocks. they must all have roots in the lava rocks now since they are sucking it up so fast. I also turned up my air pump gave them 15% more oxygen since they are drinking so much they will need more.
 
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