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Eye of Horus

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No one blames lack of political participation in the fact that people have less time to actually spend on politics. It is a lot harder to be involved when your working two jobs because they won't give you full time anymore. I know when I was working 80 hours a week I didn't have time to keep up on most of the stuff going on in the world. I did pick up a newspaper every day but that tells you about as much as whiping your ass in the morning does about how the day will turn out.

Anyways, I don't blame people for being apathetic I blame the people in the system fucking everything up so that the average Joe or Sally has one hell of a time getting to the polls or just understanding what the fuck is on the ballot. "Save the Lake" well if you vote yes your actually adding a new casino on board and if you vote no your just restricting the casino for 10 years lol.

Fuck politicians and fuck the koch suckers.
 

WORDZofWORDZCRAFT

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I like casinos it's the only industry Indians are great at. And indians will shed a tear if someone doen't save the lake so it seems quite logical to lump them together this why your just a pleeb and not involved with legislature.
 

BigNBushy

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  • By
  • CHARLES G. KOCH
I have devoted most of my life to understanding the principles that enable people to improve their lives. It is those principles—the principles of a free society—that have shaped my life, my family, our company and America itself.

Unfortunately, the fundamental concepts of dignity, respect, equality before the law and personal freedom are under attack by the nation's own government. That's why, if we want to restore a free society and create greater well-being and opportunity for all Americans, we have no choice but to fight for those principles. I have been doing so for more than 50 years, primarily through educational efforts. It was only in the past decade that I realized the need to also engage in the political process.



A truly free society is based on a vision of respect for people and what they value. In a truly free society, any business that disrespects its customers will fail, and deserves to do so. The same should be true of any government that disrespects its citizens. The central belief and fatal conceit of the current administration is that you are incapable of running your own life, but those in power are capable of running it for you. This is the essence of big government and collectivism.

More than 200 years ago, Thomas Jefferson warned that this could happen. "The natural progress of things," Jefferson wrote, "is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." He knew that no government could possibly run citizens' lives for the better. The more government tries to control, the greater the disaster, as shown by the current health-care debacle. Collectivists (those who stand for government control of the means of production and how people live their lives) promise heaven but deliver hell. For them, the promised end justifies the means.

Instead of encouraging free and open debate, collectivists strive to discredit and intimidate opponents. They engage in character assassination. (I should know, as the almost daily target of their attacks.) This is the approach that Arthur Schopenhauer described in the 19th century, that Saul Alinsky famously advocated in the 20th, and that so many despots have infamously practiced. Such tactics are the antithesis of what is required for a free society—and a telltale sign that the collectivists do not have good answers.

Rather than try to understand my vision for a free society or accurately report the facts about Koch Industries, our critics would have you believe we're "un-American" and trying to "rig the system," that we're against "environmental protection" or eager to "end workplace safety standards." These falsehoods remind me of the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan's observation, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Here are some facts about my philosophy and our company:

Koch companies employ 60,000 Americans, who make many thousands of products that Americans want and need. According to government figures, our employees and the 143,000 additional American jobs they support generate nearly $11.7 billion in compensation and benefits. About one-third of our U.S.-based employees are union members.

Koch employees have earned well over 700 awards for environmental, health and safety excellence since 2009, many of them from the Environmental Protection Agency and Occupational Safety and Health Administration. EPA officials have commended us for our "commitment to a cleaner environment" and called us "a model for other companies."

Our refineries have consistently ranked among the best in the nation for low per-barrel emissions. In 2012, our Total Case Incident Rate (an important safety measure) was 67% better than a Bureau of Labor Statistics average for peer industries. Even so, we have never rested on our laurels. We believe there is always room for innovation and improvement.

Far from trying to rig the system, I have spent decades opposing cronyism and all political favors, including mandates, subsidies and protective tariffs—even when we benefit from them. I believe that cronyism is nothing more than welfare for the rich and powerful, and should be abolished.

Koch Industries was the only major producer in the ethanol industry to argue for the demise of the ethanol tax credit in 2011. That government handout (which cost taxpayers billions) needlessly drove up food and fuel prices as well as other costs for consumers—many of whom were poor or otherwise disadvantaged. Now the mandate needs to go, so that consumers and the marketplace are the ones who decide the future of ethanol.

Instead of fostering a system that enables people to help themselves, America is now saddled with a system that destroys value, raises costs, hinders innovation and relegates millions of citizens to a life of poverty, dependency and hopelessness. This is what happens when elected officials believe that people's lives are better run by politicians and regulators than by the people themselves. Those in power fail to see that more government means less liberty, and liberty is the essence of what it means to be American. Love of liberty is the American ideal.

If more businesses (and elected officials) were to embrace a vision of creating real value for people in a principled way, our nation would be far better off—not just today, but for generations to come. I'm dedicated to fighting for that vision. I'm convinced most Americans believe it's worth fighting for, too.

Mr. Koch is chairman and CEO of Koch Industries.


http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303978304579475860515021286?mod=hp_opinion&mobile=y
 

BigNBushy

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It's all true sheep.

The Koch dudes are pretty damn liberal. They want to end all the corporate welfare. They accept it because not accepting it means going out of business.

The Democrats don't like them, neither do the Republicans.

Read some independent stuff about the dudes before you just follow someone else.
 

Eye of Horus

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Clean water is important, so far in areas where they have little to no regulation it has been seen water is contaminated, farmlands ruined, eco systems destroyed.

Even with regulation our world is getting destroyed but I'd rather not give everyone free reign to go dumping chems in my h20.
 

Padawanbater2

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It's all true sheep.

The Koch dudes are pretty damn liberal. They want to end all the corporate welfare. They accept it because not accepting it means going out of business.

The Democrats don't like them, neither do the Republicans.

Read some independent stuff about the dudes before you just follow someone else.
You are terribly misinformed

Do you know how much money the Koch brothers have spent on conservative politicians political campaigns in an attempt to influence politics?
 

Eye of Horus

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You ever been laid? Might help you with your problem of over aggression. I don't mind it at all I just think that your acting quite childish and might have a little too much testosterone in the gates. Don't worry buddy, Jesus ( OBAMA ) loves you.
 

WORDZofWORDZCRAFT

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You ever been laid? Might help you with your problem of over aggression. I don't mind it at all I just think that your acting quite childish and might have a little too much testosterone in the gates. Don't worry buddy, Jesus loves you.
I will tear that shit up son. I don't need a non beliver like you trying to tell me how much Jesus loves me I already know. I'm gonna pray tonight that I can find your gramma give her the whole 6 1/2 film that shit and send it to you as a birthday present. Im gonna get an angle that gives you my b hole my nuts slappin on her and her face. Just for you ya little twisted terrist
 

Eye of Horus

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I will tear that shit up son. I don't need a non beliver like you trying to tell me how much Jesus loves me I already know. I'm gonna pray tonight that I can find your gramma give her the whole 6 1/2 film that shit and send it to you as a birthday present. Im gonna get an angle that gives you my b hole my nuts slappin on her and her face. Just for you ya little twisted terrist
Someones gotta rattle dem bones
 

killemsoftly

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i think the cocks are great guys. they really like us. really.

sorry for the delay. their assistant called me and asked me to lunch. buy guys, gotta get to the heli pad
 
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