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PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Below66 said:
What's up with the solar genesis units coming out on july 1st? look's promising

I'm not sure how they are able to sell it for less than gavita is selling their plasma, AND they have 4 kessils led's attached... anyone want to explain? are they not the same plasma chip?

I can see the future of lighting i this industry heading towards controllable and dimmable led's supported by plasma.
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The Kessils(red?)are included to help supplement the mh plasma module during flower........are you sure on the price? Sounds like a bargain compared too the comp......

got a link to the product?
 
Greengenes707

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I'm a test grower, not a shill.

If I was lying with what I say and telling you something is good when it wasn't then that would be.
But all I have done is grow and show. Real grows, real information and data, real results, all fully documented.

Let's not forget I paid $750 for my first 6 at120's. After that I began getting more and more of a hook up each time. Then one day an at600 and at200 showed up. Considering my data, suggestions, and concepts of what needs to be equal(µmols everywhere), is what evolved into the at600. Sue me for being loyal and accepting things that I already believed worked.

I show my grows online because I have no growing friends left really. Everyone has moved on to more "normal life" stuff...and I am basically there now too. But I like to share with you guys because I can't talk about it with anyone else. Likeminded people are hard to come by. Sad to say it, but it's true. Unlike bars...there is no place to go and hang out in person to exchang ideas and thoughts with others that love growing ganja.
 
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http://shop.chameleongrowsystems.com/main.sc

Unless I'm reading something wrong, they are selling the exact chip gavita is selling with their LEP light(although I think gavita has both chip versions, the grow and bloom). They probably went with the grow version of the chip and decided to stick 4 kessil bloom lights around the outskirts, sounds pretty effective. What perplexes me is the price, even without the preorder special it's about 1,150 or something, if you tried to invent this yourself with THE gavita LEP, and hung 4 150 kessils around it, it would cost you about 2,000.
 
PSUAGRO.

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Thanks for the link......where do you see the kessils included? On the phone maybe I'm not seeing the full site

But damn 945 bucks for 500w mh plasma ain't bad, prefer the Gavita passive cooled design though.
 
stardustsailor

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I'm really sorry for the 'intrusion' .
I never 've bought any 'brand -made' led fixture ,in my life ...
Most of you ,already know that I'm only a DIYer,regarding leds...
Anyway ...What I wanted to say is ...

Already ,there are plenty of makers/brands ,that they use high-quality diodes .
And from what I personally see ,most, if not all ,of them work really fine ...

Psuagro,Greengenes,FranJan any many other respectable members of this forum have tested and use plenty of different light and fixtures ,made with high-quality diodes .

-Apache
-Illumitex
-Area51
-Han's
...are some of the already tested and proven to be working fine, led fixtures ...
(I also trust ,that Pet's BML ,is going to be a fine led fixture .. )

Maybe..
Just maybe ..
(Don't know ..Might be silly ..)

You guys,should check ,other 'features' / 'pros'n'cons' ,of the led fixtures ..
(if you do not already ...)
Stuff that are equally important with diode brand/spectrum/power/coverage ..

Like ...Driver's temperatures ,cooling ,diode spacing,upgradeability,service life,etc ...
You know..Things ,that usually are not given the importance they deserve ...

Again,I'm sorry for the intrusion..
I know ,I do not 'belong' in this thread ...
Simply, wanted to share a thought with you ...
 
Mohican

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@stardustsailor - That is why I went with Kessil. They have a proven track record in the aquarium business and are getting great grow results for coral and aquatic plants. If they can do that, then I think growing a little weed should be childs play. Now if they could only make some improvements to their light hangers...







Cheers,
Mo
 
salmone

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mohican...I would replace both Loop triangle hooks (c) for 2 pieces of chain( OooooooO ) or metal wire( o------o)...and would screw ends(O) to the holes of unit...
...if you know what i mean... its hard to me explain it better....
...or maybe with some similar...



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grapeoptimo

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vladimiroslav said:
there was discussions about them in this part of the forum. make a search. basically, stay away.
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I think that they need a bit more re-evaluation, a simple youtube search will show some proof from some reputable growers. Cali Connection, TGA, Kushington Farms are all using them now. Kushington runs a perpetual 72 plant cycle harvesting over 100 lb per year indoor using under 100 Amps at all times. Just sayin there's something to be said about the LUSH efficiency.
 
Chronikool

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grapeoptimo said:
I think that they need a bit more re-evaluation, a simple youtube search will show some proof from some reputable growers. Cali Connection, TGA, Kushington Farms are all using them now. Kushington runs a perpetual 72 plant cycle harvesting over 100 lb per year indoor using under 100 Amps at all times. Just sayin there's something to be said about the LUSH efficiency.
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Its funny how when we questioned member 'kushington420' about LUSH lighting...he left....i think he realised it was the wrong forum to be marketing his product on.... :)

https://www.rollitup.org/t/lush-led-lighting-and-another-one.736418/#post-10054711

Kushington farms are reputable growers?
 
PetFlora

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FranJan said:
^^^Your BML ranting is growing tiresome. Stop shilling and start growing, then you can SHOW us how great they are instead of assuming it.
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It occurred to me that an RIU member recently finished a grow under a Spydr 600. Here area few of his comments. He also posted a review

Bricksquad 2625

My ladies stopped stretching after 1 week of flower, they have been under the spyder 600 for 1 week and have started to 'bud' up already, producing massive amounts of white hairs, for what I've seen for just a 2nd week of flower. I've been doing some reading, http://www.clemson.edu/hort/peach/pdfs/FaustHortScience2005.pdf , it appears that if you increase the moles, you can actually decrease the flowering time while increasing the yield of dried flower, or in our case, bud. Look at the salvia and petunia for comparison on what we grow. Interesting info, I want to email Nick from BML and see what he thinks.

I typically get 2-3 week of stretch, and doubling in height. Both these ladies only stretched 6" on average... I don't see them getting any taller

I used a Blackstar 500w for veg, didn't have enough cash to throw up for a veg spyder yet. I also like their natural sunlight bulbs, it can give you the same exact spectrum as the sun or as close as possible

Yes I will be doing a full taste/smoke report, I will also do a review of my BML LED light, I'm really satisfied with it.
 
hyroot

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grapeoptimo said:
has any one commented on LUSH LED's they are gaining popularity fast imo
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they are rebranded eshine lights. They use low quality parts and use twice the wattsto cover same area as better led lights and Lush cost twice as much. They used to claim to use custom Cree leds. Until they got caught lying. They're lights will perform. But they won't last. They will fail sooner than later. The led's are driven to hard and causes them to burn out or fry.. Their "bloom spectrum" is very blue heavy. No good. Every grow you have seen is mixed with hps and those grower got the lights for free.
 
robincnn

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LUSH LED just seems too expensive. For that much money why not just get the black dog or some other tested trusted light.
Eshine seems like the most commonly re branded light ever.
200 watts 100x3 should be no more than $250.
 
robincnn

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lbbongtoke

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lbbongtoke said:
Had to move from med mj state to non med state for family reasons. I need a stealth grow room in my new place to replace the 600W hps I had. I was looking into LEDs because there is less equiptment, heat signature and worries. I want to grow 1-2 plants in a 3X4X 7 area in FFOF to keep it simple. I am looking at 700W to 900W Red/blue/white with a range of 400-700mn with a infrared light and lens around 90 degrees. Am I looking at the right lights?
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Thanks petflora!
 
Bad Karma

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grapeoptimo said:
has any one commented on LUSH LED's they are gaining popularity fast imo
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grapeoptimo said:
I think that they need a bit more re-evaluation, a simple youtube search will show some proof from some reputable growers. Cali Connection, TGA, Kushington Farms are all using them now.
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Kushington Farms has been addressed and dismissed. Strike one.
Cali Connection is a joke, Swerve produces shitty seeds, that spring forth from his powdery mildew covered garden. Strike two.
So TGA is actually the only reputable source you mentioned.
If you've seen the most recent Weed Nerd shows, you'd have heard Subcool say that the Lush lighting people won't respond to his messages anymore.
Why? Because he was too honest about their products performance and they didn't like it.
Strike three, you're out!
 
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