The forbidden TRUTH

ghostdriver

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The word is JESUS CHRIST NOT YOU!!!! ????????!!!!!read the whole verse

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
 

ghostdriver

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That's not even the whole chapter but explains vividly, The word is JESUS CHRIST our GOD, Son of ALMIGHTY LORD GOD, as you see the John who is writing this (John the apostle) is talking about John the Baptist you see I have read this. Enjoy the read, I know how hard it is to pick up the HOLY BIBLE and read while defiled in sin.
 

thepenofareadywriter

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The word is JESUS CHRIST NOT YOU!!!! ????????!!!!!read the whole verse

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
the only one saying it's me... is you !
Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
 

MonkeyChimp

Active Member
You people had a human court against DA ALMYTEE!
How dare you think you can reduce him to a simple debate, even ghostdriver is guilty of blasphemy!

Ghostdriver, the only way to repent is on your knees, drink of jesus ghostdriver. Drink and taste him.
 

ghostdriver

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You people had a human court against DA ALMYTEE!
How dare you think you can reduce him to a simple debate, even ghostdriver is guilty of blasphemy!

Ghostdriver, the only way to repent is on your knees, drink of jesus ghostdriver. Drink and taste him.
Sir I'm preaching the Word of GOD, and answering questions and trying to point people in the direction of Our Salvation JESUS CHRIST Son of GOD
 

Ceepea

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That's not even the whole chapter but explains vividly, The word is JESUS CHRIST our GOD, Son of ALMIGHTY LORD GOD, as you see the John who is writing this (John the apostle) is talking about John the Baptist you see I have read this. Enjoy the read, I know how hard it is to pick up the HOLY BIBLE and read while defiled in sin.
Not one of the books in the NT were written when Jesus was alive. They were all written decades to centuries after Jesus died. This is a fucking fact, like it or not, it's a god damn fact. Even the best, and most respected Christian scholars and apologetics agree with this.

By disagreeing with virtually every person who has ever studied the bible in a historical or religious context, you might as well just proclaim your idiocy now.
 

Ceepea

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Ceepea is a good example of what happens when you preach to kids.
Leave them kids alone!
I was forced into Sunday school and bible camp. I never believed any of it for a second. It seemed like the biggest lie ever, and boy was I right! I didn't know I was an 'atheist' until I was in my teens. I became an active atheist in my early 20's.
 

ghostdriver

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John of Patmos (also called John the Revelator, John the Divine, or John the Theologian) is the name given to the author of the Book of Revelation, the apocalyptic text forming the final chapter of the New Testament. The text of Revelation states that the author is called John and that he lives on the Greek island of Patmos, where by some, he is considered to be in exile as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian.[1][2]
The author of the Book of Revelation identifies himself as "John"[5] Traditionally, this named author is believed to be the same person as both John the apostle of Jesus and John the author of the Fourth Gospel.[5] The early 2nd century writer, Justin Martyr, was the first to equate the author of Revelation with John the Apostle.[6] However, some biblical scholars now contend that these were separate individuals.[7][8]--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Patmos
 

ghostdriver

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Not one of the books in the NT were written when Jesus was alive. They were all written decades to centuries after Jesus died. This is a fucking fact, like it or not, it's a god damn fact. Even the best, and most respected Christian scholars and apologetics agree with this.

By disagreeing with virtually every person who has ever studied the bible in a historical or religious context, you might as well just proclaim your idiocy now.
John of Patmos (also called John the Revelator, John the Divine, or John the Theologian) is the name given to the author of the Book of Revelation, the apocalyptic text forming the final chapter of the New Testament. The text of Revelation states that the author is called John and that he lives on the Greek island of Patmos, where by some, he is considered to be in exile as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian.[1][2]
The author of the Book of Revelation identifies himself as "John"[5] Traditionally, this named author is believed to be the same person as both John the apostle of Jesus and John the author of the Fourth Gospel.[5] The early 2nd century writer, Justin Martyr, was the first to equate the author of Revelation with John the Apostle.[6] However, some biblical scholars now contend that these were separate individuals.[7][8]--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Patmos
 

ghostdriver

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I was forced into Sunday school and bible camp. I never believed any of it for a second. It seemed like the biggest lie ever, and boy was I right! I didn't know I was an 'atheist' until I was in my teens. I became an active atheist in my early 20's.
Have you not read what I posted about these Church's? They are made to hide the truth, that's why you felt betrayal. As A grown man, alone in a search for GOD is a completely different experience then attending a "bible camp" forced by your parents. Don't be mad at GOD for decisions people make with their free will.
 

Ceepea

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John of Patmos (also called John the Revelator, John the Divine, or John the Theologian) is the name given to the author of the Book of Revelation, the apocalyptic text forming the final chapter of the New Testament. The text of Revelation states that the author is called John and that he lives on the Greek island of Patmos, where by some, he is considered to be in exile as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian.[1][2]
The author of the Book of Revelation identifies himself as "John"[5] Traditionally, this named author is believed to be the same person as both John the apostle of Jesus and John the author of the Fourth Gospel.[5] The early 2nd century writer, Justin Martyr, was the first to equate the author of Revelation with John the Apostle.[6] However, some biblical scholars now contend that these were separate individuals.[7][8]--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Patmos
What's your point? The book of revelations was written 70 years after Jesus died.
 

Ceepea

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Have you not read what I posted about these Church's? They are made to hide the truth, that's why you felt betrayal. As A grown man, alone in a search for GOD is a completely different experience then attending a "bible camp" forced by your parents. Don't be mad at GOD for decisions people make with their free will.
Dude, I'm not mad at god. God doesn't exist. lol

I'm also not mad at;

Santa
The Keebler elves
Easter bunny
The Sandman
Boogeyman
Freddy Kruger (although I was terrified of him when I was a wee lad)
Sharknados
Nicky Santoro

You are living in a fairy tale.
 

ghostdriver

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Dude, I'm not mad at god. God doesn't exist. lol

I'm also not mad at;

Santa
The Keebler elves
Easter bunny
The Sandman
Boogeyman
Freddy Kruger (although I was terrified of him when I was a wee lad)
Sharknados
Nicky Santoro

You are living in a fairy tale.
You just know and don't want to try THE HOLY BIBLE and repentance to develop a relationship to save your soul?
Despite seeing everything with your own eyes, and life in general, solar system, sun, moon the perfectness of it all, You think your living in a existence of contradictions? LOL No evil is real and you got to stop it, you're getting old then you die, and you can't say nobody warned you. You're not going to be able to stand before GOD and point the finger of excuse I didn't know.
 

LJ6

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Its funny cause like 2 posts ago he talks about going to sunday school LOL. Problem with you religon folk is you never listen to anyone who doesnt believe in your silly man made religion that just deflects from true spirtualitly anyway. Problem with the atheists is the exact same thing, you wanna say for sure there is no god at all and you know this for a fact. When in true nobody knows and to say you have all the answers to all the questions is just stupid. Whatever happens when we die is gonna happen regardless of what you believe.
 

Ceepea

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You just know and don't want to try THE HOLY BIBLE and repentance to develop a relationship to save your soul?
I don't have a soul, and neither do you. lol Where exactly IS our soul? What does it do? How do you know it exists? Don't say 'it's energy' because we already know what energy is, it's potential to 'do work', so unless you can prove the soul is 'doing work', don't say 'it's energy'.

Despite seeing everything with your own eyes, and life in general, solar system, sun, moon the perfectness of it all, You think your living in a existence of contradictions?
No, I don't think I'm living in an existence of contradictions. I think the birth of life on earth was spontaneous, and rare, and amazing.

No evil is real and you got to stop it, you're getting old then you die, and you can't say nobody warned you. You're not going to be able to stand before GOD and point the finger of excuse I didn't know.
Scare tactics don't work on me, because I'm rational and I understand that they're scare tactics. What you are referring to is 'pascals wager', and it's a super lame and thoroughly 'debunked' excuse for a rational argument.
 
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