The forbidden TRUTH

[Ceepea]

Its funny cause like 2 posts ago he talks about going to sunday school LOL. Problem with you religon folk is you never listen to anyone who doesnt believe in your silly man made religion that just deflects from true spirtualitly anyway. Problem with the atheists is the exact same thing, you wanna say for sure there is no god at all and you know this for a fact. When in true nobody knows and to say you have all the answers to all the questions is just stupid. Whatever happens when we die is gonna happen regardless of what you believe.

I don't KNOW that god doesn't exist, but I have no REASON to believe he does.The burden of proof lies on the people making the claim, not the person rejecting the claim.

I am an agnostic atheist. Agnostic refers to knowledge, meaning 'what a person can actually know'. Atheist means 'without theism'.

There certainly are gnostic atheists, but I and most atheists, do not fall into this category.

 

[MonkeyChimp]

Larry King talked about being scared he wont wake up when he sleeps, did you guys hear his interview? Howard Stern was bummed that he worked so hard to "build a great life" and have it taken away soon by death.
Our next life is suppose to be way better than "worldly pleasures" but I think love is just as good.

 

[LJ6]

Proof isnt a burden LOL. Proof is understanding what we didnt before. Theres so much all around us that we cant even sense or take in as humans and i just find it so odd that people would think something that had the knowledge and time or whatever even to create all this, or give bearing to what made all this. Would be easy to prove. Or easy to know. And you dont make sense when you say you dont KNOW that god doesnt exist but you know that we cant prove god or he cant be proven in principle? But if we could prove it only then would you have a reason to believe its existed all this time? idk what you really mean with your fancy atheist terms LOL. Reminds me of all the sects of christianity and other religions

 

[ghostdriver]

I don't have a soul, and neither do you. lol Where exactly IS our soul? What does it do? How do you know it exists? Don't say 'it's energy' because we already know what energy is, it's potential to 'do work', so unless you can prove the soul is 'doing work', don't say 'it's energy'.


No, I don't think I'm living in an existence of contradictions. I think the birth of life on earth was spontaneous, and rare, and amazing.



Scare tactics don't work on me, because I'm rational and I understand that they're scare tactics. What you are referring to is 'pascals wager', and it's a super lame and thoroughly 'debunked' excuse for a rational argument.

You just know and don't want to try THE HOLY BIBLE and repentance to develop a relationship to save your soul?
Despite seeing everything with your own eyes, and life in general, solar system, sun, moon the perfectness of it all, You think your living in a existence of contradictions? LOL No evil is real and you got to stop it, you're getting old then you die, and you can't say nobody warned you. You're not going to be able to stand before GOD and point the finger of excuse I didn't know.

 

[Ceepea]

Proof isnt a burden LOL.

I don't think you understand what I meant. "The burden of proof" means "the evidence required for proving something". That's to say, that the person making the claim is the one required to provide the evidence. It's not up to the person rejecting the claim to prove it's not true.

Proof is understanding what we didnt before. Theres so much all around us that we cant even sense or take in as humans and i just find it so odd that people would think something that had the knowledge and time or whatever even to create all this, or give bearing to what made all this. Would be easy to prove. Or easy to know.

If god manifests himself in reality, there is a way to test it. We can test reality, we cannot test things that are not in reality.

And you dont make sense when you say you dont KNOW that god doesnt exist but you know that we cant prove god or he cant be proven in principle? But if we could prove it only then would you have a reason to believe its existed all this time?

I'm open to new and compelling evidence, I just haven't seen any yet. An old book written by primitive men that didn't even know the world was round doesn't convince me.

idk what you really mean with your fancy atheist terms LOL. Reminds me of all the sects of christianity and other religions

Not really atheist terms. 99.999% of theists are gnostic theists, that means they claim to KNOW god exists.

Theism and atheism are statements about belief. You either have a belief, or you don't.

Gnosticism and agnosticism are about knowledge. You either claim to know for a fact, or you don't.

 

[Ceepea]

You just know and don't want to try THE HOLY BIBLE and repentance to develop a relationship to save your soul?
Despite seeing everything with your own eyes, and life in general, solar system, sun, moon the perfectness of it all, You think your living in a existence of contradictions? LOL No evil is real and you got to stop it, you're getting old then you die, and you can't say nobody warned you. You're not going to be able to stand before GOD and point the finger of excuse I didn't know.

So now we're copy/pasting the same responses?

Ok, here goes!

I don't have a soul, and neither do you. lol Where exactly IS our soul? What does it do? How do you know it exists? Don't say 'it's energy' because we already know what energy is, it's potential to 'do work', so unless you can prove the soul is 'doing work', don't say 'it's energy'.


No, I don't think I'm living in an existence of contradictions. I think the birth of life on earth was spontaneous, and rare, and amazing.



Scare tactics don't work on me, because I'm rational and I understand that they're scare tactics. What you are referring to is 'pascals wager', and it's a super lame and thoroughly 'debunked' excuse for a rational argument.

Your move.

 

[thepenofareadywriter]

Proof isnt a burden LOL. Proof is understanding what we didnt before. Theres so much all around us that we cant even sense or take in as humans and i just find it so odd that people would think something that had the knowledge and time or whatever even to create all this, or give bearing to what made all this. Would be easy to prove. Or easy to know. And you dont make sense when you say you dont KNOW that god doesnt exist but you know that we cant prove god or he cant be proven in principle? But if we could prove it only then would you have a reason to believe its existed all this time? idk what you really mean with your fancy atheist terms LOL. Reminds me of all the sects of christianity and other religions

actually even the bible requires proof from it's believers...

 

[ghostdriver]

I don't KNOW that god doesn't exist, but I have no REASON to believe he does.The burden of proof lies on the people making the claim, not the person rejecting the claim.

I am an agnostic atheist. Agnostic refers to knowledge, meaning 'what a person can actually know'. Atheist means 'without theism'.

There certainly are gnostic atheists, but I and most atheists, do not fall into this category.

^^^ So you are trying to admit to me in what you think is a clever way that If I believe I have to bare the burden of The Law of Righteousness But If I deny GOD I wont be held responsible for my actions by GOD so I don't have a burden??
The Law is to keep you safe and for your own good, and brings rewards in this life and the next beyond we can fathom. And GOD will punish those who think this trash, GOD knows you're thoughts and your case will be thrown out like a court case, if this is what one clings too, not JESUS CHRIST our LORD.

 

[Ceepea]

^^^ So you are trying to admit to me in what you think is a clever way that If I believe I have to bare the burden of The Law of Righteousness But If I deny GOD I wont be held responsible for my actions by GOD so I don't have a burden??
The Law is to keep you safe and for your own good, and brings rewards in this life and the next beyond we can fathom. And GOD will punish those who think this trash, GOD knows you're thoughts and your case will be thrown out like a court case, if this is what one clings too, not JESUS CHRIST our LORD.

Do you believe everything anyone tells you?

 

[ghostdriver]

So now we're copy/pasting the same responses?

Ok, here goes!



Your move.

LOL YOU ARE YOUR SOUL, RE read what I said too.

 

[Ceepea]

LOL YOU ARE YOUR SOUL, RE read what I said too.

So, the soul is our physical body? Because that's what I am, a physical body, with a brain.

 

[ghostdriver]

Do you believe everything anyone tells you?

LOL THE World you live in, and the Country you Live in is based off HOLY Scripture. Time itself is recorded by Holy Scripture. Made into a Book like a manual to life. Would I read that book? Clearly the answer is yes. Would I try what that book say's to do? Clearly that's what I have been saying for 30 pages. Did I see results? CLEARLY YES!!!! I'm I warning the others who are doing the same sins as I was, YES!!

 

[ghostdriver]

So, the soul is our physical body? Because that's what I am, a physical body, with a brain.

No your soul operates your mind. Your soul has been defiled and is dead which is why you need LORD JESUS CHRIST to save you.
Give up all sinful pleasures and GOD will transform one into something beyond you can fathom or hope

 

[Ceepea]

LOL THE World you live in, and the Country you Live in is based off HOLY Scripture. Time itself is recorded by Holy Scripture. Made into a Book like a manual to life. Would I read that book? Clearly the answer is yes. Would I try what that book say's to do? Clearly that's what I have been saying for 30 pages. Did I see results? CLEARLY YES!!!! I'm I warning the others who are doing the same sins as I was, YES!!

The world we live in is not based off of scripture. The world is over 4 billion years old, scripture is an infant compared to the world. 'The bible' is from and about, a miniscule area in the middle east spanning a fraction of time. It's not worthy of comparison to the world, or universe.

The bible is a form of control written by men, just like every other 'holy book' in existence.

 

[Ceepea]

No your soul operates your mind. Your soul has been defiled and is dead which is why you need LORD JESUS CHRIST to save you.
Give up all sinful pleasures and GOD will transform one into something beyond you can fathom or hope

The soul demonstrably DOES NOT operate the mind. The mind is operated by the brain. This is why head trauma can change your personality.

Ever hear of a lobotomy?

So, we can clearly demonstrate that the mind is a product of the brain.

Hmmm, so what does the soul do again?

 

[Ceepea]

You never answered the question either.

Do you believe anything that anyone tells you?

 

[MonkeyChimp]

HAHAHAHA doesn't this look like Jeezus?

 

[tyler.durden]

That's not even the whole chapter but explains vividly, The word is JESUS CHRIST our GOD, Son of ALMIGHTY LORD GOD, as you see the John who is writing this (John the apostle) is talking about John the Baptist you see I have read this. Enjoy the read, I know how hard it is to pick up the HOLY BIBLE and read while defiled in sin.

Defiled in sin, yes. But also, it's SO boring, repetitive and poorly written...

 

[tyler.durden]

You just know and don't want to try THE HOLY BIBLE and repentance to develop a relationship to save your soul?
Despite seeing everything with your own eyes, and life in general, solar system, sun, moon the perfectness of it all, You think your living in a existence of contradictions? LOL No evil is real and you got to stop it, you're getting old then you die, and you can't say nobody warned you. You're not going to be able to stand before GOD and point the finger of excuse I didn't know.

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

 

[tyler.durden]

Its funny cause like 2 posts ago he talks about going to sunday school LOL. Problem with you religon folk is you never listen to anyone who doesnt believe in your silly man made religion that just deflects from true spirtualitly anyway. Problem with the atheists is the exact same thing, you wanna say for sure there is no god at all and you know this for a fact. When in true nobody knows and to say you have all the answers to all the questions is just stupid. Whatever happens when we die is gonna happen regardless of what you believe.

Actually, atheists do not state that there is no god. That is making a positive claim that cannot be proven, so that idea requires faith. Atheists simply do not believe that deities exist, usually because there is no empirical evidence, and no convincing argument. There is a small sub-set of atheists that claim the knowledge that no deities exist, but those are rare, and I haven't encountered any on this site...