first grow couple of general questions on my two Lil ladies about a month in.

herbsxanheal

herbsxanheal

Member
Hey whoever views this thread I appreciate you taking the time and would love some advice as this is my second grow actually first batch got fried by me not being patient and adding nutes too soon. So right now my plants have been vegging for I believe close to a month. I picked them up as Clones. For light right now I'm using a 300wcfl for the two plants. I'm using happy frog soil as a medium and up until this point have not added nutes. On my next water I will probably add very minimal nutes (botanicare). My first question is right now I have them in 1 gallon pots and I planned on transitioning them to 3 gallons soon and then finish them w 5 gallons for flower. Now when I transition them if I use fresh soil of happy farm if I add nutes right away will the plants burn from too many nutes. I ask because the happy frog soil already has nutrients in it so I don't want to overload them. Or I could use the existing soil its in now? Second question is on flushing. What is flushing and is it necessary? Last q is do my plants look OK my theory is they def need nutes which I will be providing on my next water. thanks for reading I'm typing mobile so hope its legible. Any opinions a suggestions are welcome here. Cheers. (Having issues getting the pics on here from the mobile will get them on later.)
 
Last edited:
Greenhouse;save

Greenhouse;save

Well-Known Member
This is my first grow also been going great up untill 4 days ago when I first started them on the bio biz started getting a lot of yellow leaves at the bottom after seeking advice I was told to increase the amount of water so I have but still the yellow leave still appere.wondering if this is burn from the bio.the girles r now 5 weeks oldimage.jpg
 
herbsxanheal

herbsxanheal

Member
Thanks for the reply greenhouse. Your girls look pretty healthy to me but obviously I'm the wrong person to ask lol. Yea I just added the botanicare to mine as they hit a stunt in growth hoping that solves it. I think as long as you go really light w the. Bio biz you should be OK when I killed my first batch its because I pit in the recommended amount should have put in like 1/4 that.
 
Greenhouse;save

Greenhouse;save

Well-Known Member
herbsxanheal said:
Thanks for the reply greenhouse. Your girls look pretty healthy to me but obviously I'm the wrong person to ask lol. Yea I just added the botanicare to mine as they hit a stunt in growth hoping that solves it. I think as long as you go really light w the. Bio biz you should be OK when I killed my first batch its because I pit in the recommended amount should have put in like 1/4 that.
Click to expand...
Yea thx herbs that's exactly wot I've been doing.gonna gradually increase as I c fit according to how the plants look.ill keep an eye on ur grow c how u get on best of luck bud
 
rekoj0916

rekoj0916

Well-Known Member
herbsxanheal said:
Hey whoever views this thread I appreciate you taking the time and would love some advice as this is my second grow actually first batch got fried by me not being patient and adding nutes too soon. So right now my plants have been vegging for I believe close to a month. I picked them up as Clones. For light right now I'm using a 300wcfl for the two plants. I'm using happy frog soil as a medium and up until this point have not added nutes. On my next water I will probably add very minimal nutes (botanicare). My first question is right now I have them in 1 gallon pots and I planned on transitioning them to 3 gallons soon and then finish them w 5 gallons for flower. Now when I transition them if I use fresh soil of happy farm if I add nutes right away will the plants burn from too many nutes. I ask because the happy frog soil already has nutrients in it so I don't want to overload them. Or I could use the existing soil its in now? Second question is on flushing. What is flushing and is it necessary? Last q is do my plants look OK my theory is they def need nutes which I will be providing on my next water. thanks for reading I'm typing mobile so hope its legible. Any opinions a suggestions are welcome here. Cheers. (Having issues getting the pics on here from the mobile will get them on later.)
Click to expand...
To start off I'm not a soil grower, I use DWC, and coco otherwise. But, those plants, IMO do not need any nutes. Usually with soil you won't need nutrients for a good while since the medium contains some already, and some FF soil tends to be a bit hot (very nutrient rich already) so adding more nutes will only cause issues. I would suggest sticking to only feeding with water that is PH'd to 6.5-7.0 (this is very important as it will prevent your plant from being able to uptake nutes if your ph is off) until your plant begins to show slight signs of deficiency, those are your indicators that your plants need more nutes. Many people feed before this, but since it is your first grow I suggest waiting until your plants tell you they need more than risk adding to early. It already seems like your plants are exhibiting a case of slight nutrient burn, possibly nitrogen toxicity is what it looks like. You can tell because your leafs are very dark, the tips are slightly yellow, pointing down at the tip, and curled down around the serrated edges. Also I bet they feel a bit rough, their texture isn't what it should be. W
When transplanting move the soil you have in the current container into the next one as well, gently break the roots up a bit if they are root bound, and add more soil as necessary.
Flushing is what you do when you make an error (and at the end of the plants life before harvest). You can search about it online and easily find tons of results. Essentially if you mess up (like burning your plants reallyy bad) you can go ahead and run a lot of plain ph'd water through your medium in order to leech out the excess salts. The salt build up can cause ph and nutrient lock out issues. "Is it necessary?" This is very controversial, but generally most people believe so. If you always use a light amount of nutes very minimal flushing is needed as you've provided your plant with nutrients in the correct doses, so it is able to eat the nutes at the same rate you are applying them. This prevents a build up of salts, if there isn't an excessive build up, than a huge flush isn't needed. Your fan leafs are essentially nutrient reservoirs, if they uptake too much, it is stored there. That is why you get the burnt tips. I hope I've answered your questions fully. I tried to explain myself as much as possible since it is your first go at it and I'm not sure if you're familiar with all the terminology. Best of luck,

Rekoj
 
herbsxanheal

herbsxanheal

Member
rekoj0916 said:
To start off I'm not a soil grower, I use DWC, and coco otherwise. But, those plants, IMO do not need any nutes. Usually with soil you won't need nutrients for a good while since the medium contains some already, and some FF soil tends to be a bit hot (very nutrient rich already) so adding more nutes will only cause issues. I would suggest sticking to only feeding with water that is PH'd to 6.5-7.0 (this is very important as it will prevent your plant from being able to uptake nutes if your ph is off) until your plant begins to show slight signs of deficiency, those are your indicators that your plants need more nutes. Many people feed before this, but since it is your first grow I suggest waiting until your plants tell you they need more than risk adding to early. It already seems like your plants are exhibiting a case of slight nutrient burn, possibly nitrogen toxicity is what it looks like. You can tell because your leafs are very dark, the tips are slightly yellow, pointing down at the tip, and curled down around the serrated edges. Also I bet they feel a bit rough, their texture isn't what it should be. W
When transplanting move the soil you have in the current container into the next one as well, gently break the roots up a bit if they are root bound, and add more soil as necessary.
Flushing is what you do when you make an error (and at the end of the plants life before harvest). You can search about it online and easily find tons of results. Essentially if you mess up (like burning your plants reallyy bad) you can go ahead and run a lot of plain ph'd water through your medium in order to leech out the excess salts. The salt build up can cause ph and nutrient lock out issues. "Is it necessary?" This is very controversial, but generally most people believe so. If you always use a light amount of nutes very minimal flushing is needed as you've provided your plant with nutrients in the correct doses, so it is able to eat the nutes at the same rate you are applying them. This prevents a build up of salts, if there isn't an excessive build up, than a huge flush isn't needed. Your fan leafs are essentially nutrient reservoirs, if they uptake too much, it is stored there. That is why you get the burnt tips. I hope I've answered your questions fully. I tried to explain myself as much as possible since it is your first go at it and I'm not sure if you're familiar with all the terminology. Best of luck,

Rekoj
Click to expand...
Thanks for the post rekoj you definitely helped me out I guess growing these plants isn't as ez as I thought it would be. There's so many varying opinions on the internet its hard to know what's right or wrong. I did add light nutes last night some botanicare w water and their lookin better. Appreciate you breakn down the basics for me I think the best thing I can do is take things slow and learn from experience. So well see lol. Thanks again Cheers man.
 
larrybobkins

larrybobkins

Well-Known Member
if nutes are confusing go with the general organics G.O. Box its pretty much nutes for beginners hard to mess up and has instructions on the side from 1st day of veg to last day of flower
best part is all the nutes u need and only around 40 bux but I would add snowstorm ultra in the last 2 weeks
 
moloud

moloud

Member
Greenhouse;save said:
This is my first grow also been going great up untill 4 days ago when I first started them on the bio biz started getting a lot of yellow leaves at the bottom after seeking advice I was told to increase the amount of water so I have but still the yellow leave still appere.wondering if this is burn from the bio.the girles r now 5 weeks oldView attachment 3154402
Click to expand...
Never experienced that before. Looking good tho...
 
Greenhouse;save

Greenhouse;save

Well-Known Member
Don't no wot I'm doing wrong.in the last couple of weeks every morn when I check on the girles they look so sad curled leaves and really droopy.i have tried adjusting watering times and amounts of feed but nothing seems to help they do perk up as the day goes on but this cannot b good for them any thoughts would b greatly appreciated.
 
Greenhouse;save

Greenhouse;save

Well-Known Member
I meant to say I run my lights all night and off 6 hours during the day I have an extractor running all the time and have a fan blowing through the tops constantly.could this b that they r not getting enuff air when the temps r up I have a small vent in the front of the room?
 
larrybobkins

larrybobkins

Well-Known Member
Commander Strax said:
Herb that is a fine looking dog



Larry, you are a big fan of the shooting powder, I will have to try some
Click to expand...
I hear the top shooter liquid is a little harder to dial in but has better effect ive only used the powder my faveorite is the moab I seen results in about 24-48 hrs very noticeably calyx swelled overnight
 
larrybobkins

larrybobkins

Well-Known Member
Greenhouse;save said:
Don't no wot I'm doing wrong.in the last couple of weeks every morn when I check on the girles they look so sad curled leaves and really droopy.i have tried adjusting watering times and amounts of feed but nothing seems to help they do perk up as the day goes on but this cannot b good for them any thoughts would b greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
lights too close not enough o2 to roots if there is no burn or spots
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top