Red1966
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Taking the 5th is not a crime
DEA losing power and they're super butt hurt about it
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UncleBuck
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did that come in handy for you once they started investigating the aftermath of the fire?
Harrekin
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Youre a dumb fuck, he can fire the head of the DEA and the AG as many times as he wants until he gets the right puppet.
Stop the self rule bullshit, electoral college system?
Yeah, thats direct democracy right there...
Doer
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Oh bullshit, you pagan.
All Cabinet heads have to be approved by Congress. All law must be obey or not caught breaking,
And even if the Pres. tried an end run with some presto chango, flim flam like he is used to, it still DOES NOT AFFECT THE STATES.
And the President simply CANNOT WAVE PEN AND KILL LAWS. He can open mouth and rally support. That is the job for the President domestically. He specifically has NO kingly powers. A lot of World Press and the US Press pretends he is more than he is.
The World Press wants strife and you play along.
You all really have the wrong headed Pressed IN, ideas that a US President has domestic power.
He does not have any personal domestic power. There is very little he can do beyond secret killing. We have a Union of States and the States elect the Turkey.for a FEW YEARS.
Show us one incident where a President has personal fiat power over States? No Federal Law? Texas and many other States don't care, it will still be heavy on Pot.
Talk about an arm-chair Walter Mitty, acting like you know anything, much less that you know more than this old and ornery, ex-steetfighter, US citizen.
Prove it, mouth. You are such a poser.
All Cabinet heads have to be approved by Congress. All law must be obey or not caught breaking,
And even if the Pres. tried an end run with some presto chango, flim flam like he is used to, it still DOES NOT AFFECT THE STATES.
And the President simply CANNOT WAVE PEN AND KILL LAWS. He can open mouth and rally support. That is the job for the President domestically. He specifically has NO kingly powers. A lot of World Press and the US Press pretends he is more than he is.
The World Press wants strife and you play along.
You all really have the wrong headed Pressed IN, ideas that a US President has domestic power.
He does not have any personal domestic power. There is very little he can do beyond secret killing. We have a Union of States and the States elect the Turkey.for a FEW YEARS.
Show us one incident where a President has personal fiat power over States? No Federal Law? Texas and many other States don't care, it will still be heavy on Pot.
Talk about an arm-chair Walter Mitty, acting like you know anything, much less that you know more than this old and ornery, ex-steetfighter, US citizen.
Prove it, mouth. You are such a poser.
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Harrekin
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Doer, you fucking clown-shoes...
Its already been shown that the DEA and the Health Department can reschedule by fiat, you dumb fuck.
Who appoints the heads of those Departments?
And guess who already rescheduled MDMA by fiat in 1985?
Doer as usual, fancy bullshit talk is all you have with zero content.
Rob Roy
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Harrekin
Well-Known Member
Well I literally am about to get stoned right now...its usually a good thing.
Im not afraid of a dickless, Walter Mitty, keyboard warrior like Doer the Smallmighty who in reality probably couldnt fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
Doer
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You are so lost.
http://thedea.org/drughistory.html
Drug Enforcement Agency announced its intent to Emergency Schedule MDMA, placing it into Schedule 1 (the most restrictive class of drugs, such as heroin) for a year while it was decided how it should be permanently Scheduled.
Shocked and angered by the DEA's plans to completely ban access to a drug that had become an important and valued part of their practices, psychiatrists, therapists, and other scientists and doctors challenged the Scheduling, resulting in government hearings on how MDMA should be Scheduled.
1985: The hearings began. The DEA appointed Judge Francis Young to hear the case. Months of testimony and sometimes bitter argument went by as the hearings dragged on through the summer, autumn and into winter.
1986: On May 22nd, Judge Young released his decision on the laws, science, and use surrounding MDMA, declaring that MDMA was safe when used under medical supervision, did not have a high potential for addiction, and had legitimate medical use. As such, Judge Young said, it was not legal to place MDMA higher than Schedule 3. This much less restrictive category would have allowed doctors to continue to use MDMA, but would have still made sale without a prescription illegal.
Angered by these findings, the DEA condemned Judge Young as biased, shortsighted, and incorrect in his interpretation of the laws. They rejected his non-binding ruling and declared MDMA permanently Schedule 1.
Outraged by the DEA's attempts to re-write the laws and ignore the science, the groups that had first challenged the Scheduling of MDMA sued, taking the DEA to court.
1988: After several years of motions, hearings, and angry debate, the doctors and scientists appeared to have achieved victory: On January 27, the courts agreed with Justice Young's original opinion and ordered the Drug Enforcement Agency to reassess its Scheduling decision. In the meanwhile, MDMA is removed from Schedule 1, becoming briefly legal once again.
The DEA, complying with the court order, 're-evaluated' their decision. And decided that they had been right all along, and the doctors, scientists, and courts were the ones that were wrong about the science and the law. They permanently declared MDMA Schedule 1, taking effect on March 23, 1988.
Vindicated in their interpretation of the law, in the science and in court but beaten down by sheer political power, the doctors and scientists were defeated.
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iT WAS FOUGHT IN COURT, SO SHUT UP.
http://thedea.org/drughistory.html
Drug Enforcement Agency announced its intent to Emergency Schedule MDMA, placing it into Schedule 1 (the most restrictive class of drugs, such as heroin) for a year while it was decided how it should be permanently Scheduled.
Shocked and angered by the DEA's plans to completely ban access to a drug that had become an important and valued part of their practices, psychiatrists, therapists, and other scientists and doctors challenged the Scheduling, resulting in government hearings on how MDMA should be Scheduled.
1985: The hearings began. The DEA appointed Judge Francis Young to hear the case. Months of testimony and sometimes bitter argument went by as the hearings dragged on through the summer, autumn and into winter.
1986: On May 22nd, Judge Young released his decision on the laws, science, and use surrounding MDMA, declaring that MDMA was safe when used under medical supervision, did not have a high potential for addiction, and had legitimate medical use. As such, Judge Young said, it was not legal to place MDMA higher than Schedule 3. This much less restrictive category would have allowed doctors to continue to use MDMA, but would have still made sale without a prescription illegal.
Angered by these findings, the DEA condemned Judge Young as biased, shortsighted, and incorrect in his interpretation of the laws. They rejected his non-binding ruling and declared MDMA permanently Schedule 1.
Outraged by the DEA's attempts to re-write the laws and ignore the science, the groups that had first challenged the Scheduling of MDMA sued, taking the DEA to court.
1988: After several years of motions, hearings, and angry debate, the doctors and scientists appeared to have achieved victory: On January 27, the courts agreed with Justice Young's original opinion and ordered the Drug Enforcement Agency to reassess its Scheduling decision. In the meanwhile, MDMA is removed from Schedule 1, becoming briefly legal once again.
The DEA, complying with the court order, 're-evaluated' their decision. And decided that they had been right all along, and the doctors, scientists, and courts were the ones that were wrong about the science and the law. They permanently declared MDMA Schedule 1, taking effect on March 23, 1988.
Vindicated in their interpretation of the law, in the science and in court but beaten down by sheer political power, the doctors and scientists were defeated.
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iT WAS FOUGHT IN COURT, SO SHUT UP.
Doer
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You shouid have no fear of Photons, my child.
Harrekin
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Thanks for making my point, Doer the Dumb Fuck.
They had to fight the DEA in court to get them to change the decision they made by fiat.
You really are a dumb fuck, maybe you should smoke less for a while and give the brain a rest.
Harrekin
Well-Known Member
*sighs*
It was initially classified schedule 1, then the official process began. A judge issued a NON BINDING ruling stating it should be schedule 3.
The DEA said "fuck you, its schedule 1" and had to be fought in court to change it.
The DEA could EASILY reclassify cannabis schedule 3 or remove it from the list altogether, they choose not to and Obama allows it.
Anything else you say is cock-swaggle, must be hard getting schooled on your own laws by someone who's not even a citizen.
abandonconflict
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It is futile. He is immune to Logic.
abandonconflict
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You are immune to Logic, all arguments are invalid.
Harrekin
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They were forced to reclassify it because it was demonstably shown to have a medical use, which means it cannot legally be placed on Schedule 1.
The DEA in conjunction with the DHHS can reschedule by fiat, read the fucking legislation you dumbass.