Detroit Police Chief pushing concealed weapons to control crime.

Wilksey

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if its bad genetics we're after, I know plenty of whites in the shallow end of the gene pool.
"Bad genetics" in this case means any human that would threaten to, or use, unlawful deadly force against their fellow citizen.

Doesn't matter if they're white, black, yellow, brown, or green with polka dots.
 

Rak on Tur'

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The police chief is right when he said the police can't protect people, that is true nation wide. I do not agree with concieled weapons permits, a person should have those rights without needing the governments blessing. I do think we need to enforce background checks better than what is currently done.

Crime will not be solved with concealed carry, harsher punishment, or special task forces. Crime is not based on race or political ideology, it is environment driven. Always has been, and probably always will be.
 

NLXSK1

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The police chief is right when he said the police can't protect people, that is true nation wide. I do not agree with concieled weapons permits, a person should have those rights without needing the governments blessing. I do think we need to enforce background checks better than what is currently done.

Crime will not be solved with concealed carry, harsher punishment, or special task forces. Crime is not based on race or political ideology, it is environment driven. Always has been, and probably always will be.
As long as criminals can get guns illegally, background checks are not going to make a significant difference. When was the last time a background check prevented a shooting? The ones I remember in recent history all had people who passed a background check or who took the weapons from a family member.

Crime will never be solved, it is a human condition. And you are totally right about police not protecting people. The police are there to respond to crimes and attempt to punish the criminals which is usually after the fact. That is why it is so important for people to have the right to self defense.
 

DonAlejandroVega

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a waste of perfec
Uncle Buck is projecting his insecurity at being unable to have impulse control. His anger and rage that someone else managed to get out of the rut he drinks himself into every night is amusing only because he works so hard at being an asshole on this website. Ultimately, we should pity him. Poor guy...
to wish relapse on someone...........I find it hard to pity such a cur. I'll work on that :)
 

Rak on Tur'

Active Member
As long as criminals can get guns illegally, background checks are not going to make a significant difference. When was the last time a background check prevented a shooting? The ones I remember in recent history all had people who passed a background check or who took the weapons from a family member.

Crime will never be solved, it is a human condition. And you are totally right about police not protecting people. The police are there to respond to crimes and attempt to punish the criminals which is usually after the fact. That is why it is so important for people to have the right to self defense.
You don't have to look very hard to see cases where background checks could of stopped the sale of a gun to individuals who were mentally unstable. If they where slightly more stringent.

I know that the vast majority of gun owners are responsible, and I'm not for some silly gun laws such as assault weapon bans. I am all for a person having the right to defend themselves, because only you can protect yourself in the end. Relying on others is naive at best.
 

NoDrama

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The guy that automatically assumes that all bag genetics in Detroit belong to black people is the real racist. That would be Bucky. By "Bad Genetics" i just thought of bad people, color never even entered my thought process until Buck brought it up.
 

ginwilly

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You don't have to look very hard to see cases where background checks could of stopped the sale of a gun to individuals who were mentally unstable. If they where slightly more stringent.

I know that the vast majority of gun owners are responsible, and I'm not for some silly gun laws such as assault weapon bans. I am all for a person having the right to defend themselves, because only you can protect yourself in the end. Relying on others is naive at best.
I'd be ok with a no gun list similar to our no fly list. Asking gun retailers to do more stringent checks is asking them to perform medicine. They are simply not qualified.

It would be up for debate what lands you on the no gun list though. I'd submit felons who have used guns during the crimes and people who have a history of gun violence. This won't prevent much, but the future crime police scare me.
 

ginwilly

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The guy that automatically assumes that all bag genetics in Detroit belong to black people is the real racist. That would be Bucky. By "Bad Genetics" i just thought of bad people, color never even entered my thought process until Buck brought it up.
I don't even point his shit out anymore. Either he lacks the intellect to understand or he knows and is a giant troll. He's a waste of time and space no matter his excuse.
 

Rak on Tur'

Active Member
I'd be ok with a no gun list similar to our no fly list. Asking gun retailers to do more stringent checks is asking them to perform medicine. They are simply not qualified.

It would be up for debate what lands you on the no gun list though. I'd submit felons who have used guns during the crimes and people who have a history of gun violence. This won't prevent much, but the future crime police scare me.
It is a tough one, frankly I would like to see gun safety taught in schools. But in this era I don't see that happening. Up until just recently my grand kids where able to have guns on school property. They had to remain in their vehicle, out of sight, with doors locked. A concerned mother made such a huge deal out of it finally got the school to cave. Not a single case of any problems there, ever.

In the end anyone who wants to kill, will. I'm no fan of the future police, I would quite frankly take my chances with criminals over some government program. But fear not, it will be for our safety.
 

ginwilly

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It is a tough one, frankly I would like to see gun safety taught in schools. But in this era I don't see that happening. Up until just recently my grand kids where able to have guns on school property. They had to remain in their vehicle, out of sight, with doors locked. A concerned mother made such a huge deal out of it finally got the school to cave. Not a single case of any problems there, ever.

In the end anyone who wants to kill, will. I'm no fan of the future police, I would quite frankly take my chances with criminals over some government program. But fear not, it will be for our safety.
Preaching to the choir. I grew up with guns and was taught a healthy dose of respect and safety. I guess I just don't understand where we are. Kids have been suspended from school for hello kitty bubble guns and pointing while saying bang. The lunatics are running the asylum.
 

skunkd0c

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we have a bunch of black gangbangers, hip hop artists that preach violence, raw sex and disrespect against "da ho's", have the highest rate of un-wedded single mothers of any race, highest crime statistics.... I mean, what isn't there to like? :)
This dude is ok though ?
 

NLXSK1

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yes you do.

i bet you'd also like some of my harvest. i'll put it up against any $200 top shelf ounce from any colorado dispensary any day.

but i wouldn't share it with someone like you.
I have no interest in your cat piss weed.
 

UncleBuck

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As long as criminals can get guns illegally, background checks are not going to make a significant difference. When was the last time a background check prevented a shooting? The ones I remember in recent history all had people who passed a background check or who took the weapons from a family member.
lanza and loughner took the guns from family members because they couldn;'t pass a background check to get their mas smurder tools.
 

UncleBuck

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I don't even point his shit out anymore. Either he lacks the intellect to understand or he knows and is a giant troll. He's a waste of time and space no matter his excuse.
oh look.

the guy who says civil rights are bad because it might get racist food spitters in trouble is calling me a racist.
 

UncleBuck

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Have another beer Bucky, that will fix everything... Well, except for your life.
tell me more about how crime is genetic, tard.



and i will have another beer tonight, even a few. because unlike you, i can control my impulses and am not a raging alcoholic.
 

Harrekin

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Why do so many Americans still hate Black folk so much
we do not hate Black people like this in the UK
we even removed the golliwogs from jam jars for them
instead collectively folk in the UK hate/despise poor people

some of these poor people have black skin some brown
but the majority have white skin

poor people are dehumanized they are worthless scum
i'm surprised we are not hanging poor people from trees

is the hate because most of your Black folk are poor ?
Gollywogs still exist, you just don't show them off to the general public.

They'll rise again you know.
 
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