Satellite data proves Earth has not been warming the past 18 years - it's stable
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londonfog
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just pay attention to the UVA ( and UVB but not so much..but is important as well )I don't think we need to start planning for what will happen when the sun burns out either.
At least not yet.
Doer
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Snowball earth doesn't begin in 1500 years. The Ice will move down, No one knows how far.
So, I'm not sure if we should be heating this to a sauna while we can, in prep for the wider orbit.
Doer
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News flash. Even with the sun increasing heat in the main sequence, that is nothing to even measure over only 21,000 years.
You still don't see the problem. We need to be cooler now, and getting cooler. We are not.
If we were to somehow reverse this "not cooling effect" we still are headed for ICE>
Doer
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Well OK, but that just means, by that count we have been in a Major Ice Age for a couple of million years already with no end in sight. We have another 123 Million years to go.
What drives these big cycles?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age
The current ice age, the Pliocene-Quaternary glaciation, started about 2.58 million years ago during the late Pliocene, when the spread of ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere began. Since then, the world has seen cycles of glaciation with ice sheets advancing and retreating on 40,000- and 100,000-year time scales called glacial periods, glacials or glacial advances, and interglacial periods, interglacials or glacial retreats. The earth is currently in an interglacial, and the last glacial period ended about 10,000 years ago.
Harrekin
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Can't regulate the sun, sadly.
Harrekin
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heckler73
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No, I am not following this. I am thinking of experiments and how to garner data. Are you talking about Iceball Earth or melting ice?
If the latter, then 333 J/g ...
heckler73
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Exponential area or volume loss?
They have different meanings, with different effects.
Ceepea
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Let me help you out with this question..... click here!Why did all the dinosaurs die?
Should be right up your alley.
Doer
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Say what? It is not a 2D plane. It is 3D and extent has depth,
Less extent, less depth. The extent includes the depth, And it doesn't matter, since you already know. That is the most red herring consideration I have seen so far.
We are not talking about the thin seasonal sea ice, you know. What is at risk is the Ice Dams that hold back most of ice in the world from the Sea.
It is the desalination of the Bays that hold the Ice shelves and that increases the melt.
And the Ross is only 1000 feet thick. On-land the ice cap is 2 miles deep. The Ross alone holds back 8 glaciers from the sea.
Less extent, less depth. The extent includes the depth, And it doesn't matter, since you already know. That is the most red herring consideration I have seen so far.
We are not talking about the thin seasonal sea ice, you know. What is at risk is the Ice Dams that hold back most of ice in the world from the Sea.
It is the desalination of the Bays that hold the Ice shelves and that increases the melt.
And the Ross is only 1000 feet thick. On-land the ice cap is 2 miles deep. The Ross alone holds back 8 glaciers from the sea.
Doer
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Funny!
Pinworm
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lolburn
MuyLocoNC
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Is it a coincidence that the giant arcs in temp and such are always just around the corner?See? There is adequate science for me now. Sat data on Ice shows we are losing Ice big time.
Exponential? You know what exponential loss of Antarctic Ice means, right? That is direct measurement from very precise satellite imaging.
The graph illustrates how exponential growth (green) surpasses both linear (red) and cubic (blue) growth.
GREEN = Exponential growth
RED = Linear growth
BLUE = Cubic growth
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So a little mind map of the Green line and where I see the "tell us what to do" problem.
So, check the GREEN between:
2 - 3 Almost nothing (Sagan observes Venus and says Greenhouse)
3 - 4 More research.....What? What is this, no cooling?
4 - 5 IPCC established to make reports about "what to do?" (Ice is melting faster now)
5 - 6 Where we are now, and even Doer can see it because satellites can measure it
7 - 8 PLANETARY WAR
Look at it, LOOK AT IT!
This graph (and all graphs presented by the Eco-Loons) looks similar to every graph I've seen for the last 15-20 years that didn't materialize or required "tweaking" to adjust for reality. The AGW/global warming/climate change/climate disruption/carbon pollution movement is populated by armies of Harold Campings standing on street corners, wearing doomsday placards.
We're so fortunate that we're always just 20-50 years away from disaster and we never actually seem to get there. Hmmm...
sheskunk
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Every answer to every question can be found there. Might as well shut down this forum.
It is rather funny that you had to go to google for such an easy answer.
Red1966
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The thermometers you speak numbered maybe 4 or 5, were wildly inaccurate, and in no way measured anything more than a few isolated spots. "Global" my ass. "private jets" is entirely relevant when the founder of your religion owns several, 7 SUVs, and over 2 dozen cars. 6 mansions and is estimated to use 200 times as much carbon as the average American.
Red1966
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we can see asteroids PASSING for years, but asteroids headed at us are almost impossible to detect. Witness the recent strike in Russia that no one saw coming.