Hosebomber
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EH is more than welcome to prove me wrong. He has an account on this forum and is notified when these things come up. Read his website and the wording... You will see what I am referring to.
LED Noobs, STOP Buying China Junk
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natro.hydro
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Pretty sure the side by side will happen by the sounds of things, just not NOW... he has new panels coming out soon and the plan he expressed to me was to try to get side by sides going of hps vs his lights and apache vs hisnlights. Was just talkingbto another member about this and he said he volunteered but eh already has something in the works. No offence spaztak have not really had a problem with you as of yet but please do come with the right info when you make it sound like dude whipped his dick out and tucked it back real quick, he just had it hanging out the whole time yall just hadnt noticed 
although i will give you that his attitude and aftion in that thread were a little more.than unbecoming, like you said hes got some of the better lights on the scene
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although i will give you that his attitude and aftion in that thread were a little more.than unbecoming, like you said hes got some of the better lights on the sceneSent from my SCH-R930 using Rollitup mobile app
Greengenes707
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Well it's been hanging there for 3 months...on the pill commercials that qualifies to see a doctor.
We are coming up on 1 year of since the at600 release. New/upgrades aren't too far off.
We are coming up on 1 year of since the at600 release. New/upgrades aren't too far off.
KineBoisin420
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Though I'm just starting my side-by-side, check out my sig for a link to my comparison grow (totally unscientific, unsponsored, unbiased) between an XGS190 and an Apollo8, running two cuts from the same mother.
MightyMike530
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Not too shabby for being almost halfway through flower, glad to see your lights are working.
grapeoptimo
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well i feel dum
Positivity
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I feel dum too...I bought two lights from gehl direct..had a few problems..then they offered no tech support/warranty
On the bright side. Buying it from a reseller they should back the warranty claims. So it's really not that bad a thing you didn't go direct.
Just be sure to hold them accountable for performance and support.
grapeoptimo
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but what do you think about the performance of the lights? mine has a screw rattling around inside it but it works so im at least running a cycle before i attempt to bitch
regarding gehl direct, i would feel like off the 2nds to the ppl looking to save a buck knowing they have no reproach when the lights break.
JavaCo
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Thats not good, loose screws can cause a short circuit. I would get it out of there or get someone that knows how to, do it for you.
Positivity
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The noah 4 took my 3 x 2 tent to 98*f +....unusable for me. Actually first time I experienced such a hot running light. I still have it..may refit it one day since it does have a nice case with lots of room.
I have heard once someone running it in a larger area and not having heat problems. He wasn't that happy with it either last I recall.
Just being honest bro...
Take a feel right above the multichip..mine got scorching right above. Maybe they upgraded it since..
stardustsailor
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" Moyo worked for the World Bank as a Consultant
and at Goldman Sachs where she worked in the debt capital markets
and as an economist in the global macroeconomics team. "
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" Moyo worked for the World Bank as a Consultant
and at Goldman Sachs where she worked in the debt capital markets
and as an economist in the global macroeconomics team. "
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Cheers.
dr.medecine
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"Sony is American, Samsung is Japanese, Berrenger audio is Chinas biggest company, most cars in China are from the 70´s/80´s etc, etc?"
Sorry my friend but that gave me a bit of a laugh, not bashing or anything but lots of flawed information in there so a bit hard to take serious. That is not my opinion but facts, then again my English vocabulary, grammar and spelling is obviously very limited so perhaps I simply misunderstood the text somehow and jumped the gun answering back before fully understanding your point here?
Whether Chinese light are good or bad in general I have no idea honestly but would love to find out cause the led technology is getting more and more interesting for every single year that go by now imho.
Will invest it´s only a question of time before I pull the trigger now but suspect US made led lights will never be a alternative for me, it´s just simple math and too expensive for me personally cause the extra cost for manufacturing (if really US made that is?) and paychecks for employes will always add a premium compared to Chinese made or perhaps even better or at the very least a solid option to Chinese made lights and that is led DIY solutions? It´s also very sad cause I wish I had a better economy and could support western made products more, if nothing else just to support our economies the way I want to.
PSUAGRO.
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I looked at the website, and yes your correct the wording has changed recently(?).......their is a good possibility that he is outsourcing the work now, NO mention of US "made" lights anywhere.......
spazatak
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I found this on their FAQ section but doesnt say where they are assembledI looked at the website, and yes your correct the wording has changed recently(?).......their is a good possibility that he is outsourcing the work now, NO mention of US "made" lights anywhere.......
Q: Where are your lights made?
A: The housing case and heat sinks are made in China. The LEDs were made and purchased in the USA (TOP BIN ONLY). Drivers and fans come from China.
Hosebomber
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It's simply from personal experience. Legalese is a tricky language that can save you when the misrepresentation lawyers come knocking at the door. When you go looking for a producer for wares, some of them will actually tell you claims that you can make and wording that is borderline legal. For example, they used to all say Bridgelux and Cree diodes... because they were based on the diodes designed by them and the company making the diode had bought the rights to that design from those companies. That was one of the basis for Cree's lawsuit a few years ago. Same with AT's claim, developed FOR NASA... they submitted for a NASA study... Therefore it was developed for the purpose of NASA. Never selected, tested or used, just designed for.I looked at the website, and yes your correct the wording has changed recently(?).......their is a good possibility that he is outsourcing the work now, NO mention of US "made" lights anywhere.......
puffenuff
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There are videos out of AT lights being tested in a NASA research facility. I found a presentation online put together by a NASA employee which made reference to tests done with Apache lights. I'm pretty sure they were not only designed for but in cooperation with NASA.
grapeoptimo
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i feel
mines in a 10x10 basement and it runs warm but not crazy hott. Cooler than a 1k hps.. It's got 6 fans that blow air direct onto the heat sink and that air is exhausted out the sides. which comes out probably 90-100F
Positivity
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That explains the heat a lot. In a small space I needed to move way more air than I wanted too..it kept getting hotter and hotter.
I opened it up a few times..the fans blow onto the middle smaller diodes and some of the air is channelled with heatsink fins over the multichip units. I wished they had gave each big chip it's own fan.
Perfect case for 4 cxa 3070/3590's or in your case 8. Dedicated CPU cooler over each one...Something to keep in mind if you ever feel like upgrading...
Bottom line...enjoy it..it was hella bright!
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