Schuylaar's Sesh - Bowe Bergdahl

NoDrama

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And Drama would not I gut you in a heartbeat if it was the only way to save myself?

Oh Yes, I am cadre of one,
Yes yes and if confronted with bashing 20 newborn babies brains out over killing yourself, you would trip over your own feet to get that Louisville slugger.
 

AlecTheGardener

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False belief is a sin in the eyes of Mohammed. Don't you read? I think the purpose of Islam is to worship Allah, but whatever.
During historical campaigns religious armies would offer conversion or death.

This is similar. Religious and military leaders are always willing to turn an eye as long as it serves their agenda.
 

abandonconflict

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He was there as a Political device. He was "captured" in reports that are full of conflicting circumstance, He was "captured" as a political device by a political device,

He was freed by political device,

You propose vacuum. There can be none,
Can someone please decipher this? Doer is speaking in tongues again.
 

sheskunk

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Dan Witmer · Top Commenter · Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

You want it from the horses mouth?? Here ya go..We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday."
 

Doer

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Yes yes and if confronted with bashing 20 newborn babies brains out over killing yourself, you would trip over your own feet to get that Louisville slugger.
No. Not babies, but you for sure,

Would you ask for beheading to support Christianity? You would not convert?
 

Doer

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False belief is a sin in the eyes of Mohammed. Don't you read? I think the purpose of Islam is to worship Allah, but whatever.
Convert or die. I said nothing of false belief. After all it is just belief. And I can actually believe anything, QUITE EASILY, for survival.

Convert or die, Drama. You would choose death over some catechism of belief.,
 

abandonconflict

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Take off the stupid hat.
I'm not the one professing to know what it feels like to be a soldier who has been used as a political device. I do know what it's like. I'm not the one occupying a thread and being a self declared expert while contradicting and bickering with anyone who has an opinion. You don't have any fucking clue what it is like to be treated as a political device, yet you bark and holler more than anyone about it. People like you are the reason that 22 veterans a day commit suicide. With all of your war drumming against Islam and absolutely no balls to go serve.
 

Doer

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You were there as a tool of politics and were brought back as a tool.

And while you were there the incoming was all political.

You think reality is separated into layers instead of all smeared together.

The suicides are on people like you. The crybaby America causes it.
 

NoDrama

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No. Not babies, but you for sure,

Would you ask for beheading to support Christianity? You would not convert?
I would never have to convert since I do not proscribe to any religion whatsoever. IMO they are all false. Spiritualism is good, religion bad MMMkay?
 

Doer

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You dodge.

Accept Islam or die, Convert from your heathen ways, regardless of your hideous denials of belief.
 

abandonconflict

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You were there as a tool of politics and were brought back as a tool.

And while you were there the incoming was all political.

You think reality is separated into layers instead of all smeared together.

The suicides are on people like you. The crybaby America causes it.
Since you get all of your information from reading (and none from experience) you ought to learn to read better.
 

NoDrama

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You dodge.

Accept Islam or die, Convert from your heathen ways, regardless of your hideous denials of belief.
No thanks, let the beheading begin! I would much rather die a martyr than a false follower who will only be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. I have lived plenty, done more things than most ever will do, made my fortune and had my family. I have good morals and don't feel guilty about the majority of my past, I won't die with regret.
 

schuylaar

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I thought Official policy was that the US did not negotiate with terrorists?

Must have been some negotiating for a 1 for 5 swap.

Obama did an end run around congress again.
he warned congress in his first state of the union after being re-elected..if they won't cooperate he'll do what he can.

you go! mr. president!..you go!
 
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