Health Canada Proposes Amendments to MMPR

leaffan

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Why doesn't the Colleges just tell their doctors that they have to report each medical document they write?
Why make the LPs submit it?
It's the Colleges that want this done, they're the ones pushing HC behind the scenes, it's well within their authority and control to demand their doctors report!
So, why this round about route?...
 

Devil Lettuce

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Why doesn't the Colleges just tell their doctors that they have to report each medical document they write?
Why make the LPs submit it?
It's the Colleges that want this done, they're the ones pushing HC behind the scenes, it's well within their authority and control to demand their doctors report!
So, why this round about route?...
Maybe the colleges pressured for it to happen in the form of an amendment so that HC takes most of the heat for the resulting lack of access, and not the doctors or colleges. In Alberta, this is pretty close to being the case already, as the college has mandated that any doc prescribing MMJ has to register with the provincial body, as well as submit info regarding follow-up care, amounts prescribed, etc.

Guess what the result of all those restrictions and reporting are? ZERO access for new patients in Alberta save for some rare and extreme cases. That is what we will see on a national level if this goes through. The only realistic option for the vast majority of people is a Skype doc, and this amendment will quickly put an end to those as well.
 
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j0yr1d3

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THE GOV HAS MADE THIS SYSTEM TO FAIL!
Well they are doing a damn good job. And it's only cost millions of tax dollars and unmeasurable pain and suffering of the sick! Way to go HC and Fuhrer Harper!
 

leaffan

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Maybe the colleges pressured for it to happen in the form of an amendment so that HC takes most of the heat for the resulting lack of access, and not the doctors or colleges. In Alberta, this is pretty close to being the case already, as the college has mandated that any doc prescribing MMJ has to register with the provincial body, as well as submit info regarding follow-up care, amounts prescribed, etc.

Guess what the result of all those restrictions and reporting are? ZERO access for new patients in Alberta save for some rare and extreme cases. That is what we will see on a national level if this goes through. The only realistic option for the vast majority of people is a Skype doc, and this amendment will quickly put an end to those as well.
Bingo
 

WHATFG

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But the really sick patients can't really be customers for LP's, Health Canada should know that. These really sick people need to be allowed to grow their own because how can they afford LP pricing for hundreds of grams a month? They should work towards easing off on how hard it is to get a prescription or this whole program is going to fall apart, really sick people do not represent a demographic that the LP's want, its the people who want it for "anxiety" and "back pain" and "depression" that will form a solid client base.

For fucks sake just legalize it, let people grow 5-6 plants and let the LP's enjoy the recreational market rather than fight to profit off patients
I take offence to your reference to back pain. I think I would have like it better if you had said your ass hurt or something stupid like that. I will assume that is what you meant. Otherwise I agree with your post.
 

CannaReview

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Well this will play to the underground market if is spooks doctors because the LP's will have to keep the prices as they are or higher. At least its more ammo for the court cases because at the end of the line its the Canadian who gets shafted.
 

gb123

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I'd like to know how in the fuck a conservative got elected in the liberal mecca of Canada in the first place?

My god, this is George W Bush'esque.
There are two things Harpless learned back in High school.After losing out the people in the parking lot for School council President,
he spent the rest of his life learning how to be an 'asshole', the minority of course and he learned how to get into power being just that.

I guess no one has ever heard the story about who should be Boss

You don't need brains to be a Boss.
When the body was first created, all the parts wanted to be Boss. The brain said, "I should be Boss because I control all of the body's responses and functions."
The feet said, "We should be Boss since we carry the brain about and get him to where he wants to go."
The hands said, "We should be the Boss because we do all the work and earn all the money."
Finally, the asshole spoke up. All the parts laughed at the idea of the asshole being the Boss. So, the asshole went on strike, blocked itself up and refused to work.
Within a short time, the eyes became crossed, the hands clenched, the feet twitched, the heart and lungs began to panic, and the brain fevered. Eventually, they all decided that the asshole should be the Boss, so the motion was passed. All the other parts did all the work while the Boss just sat and passed out the shit!
Moral Of The Story: You don't need a brain to be a Boss----any asshole will do.
 

PeaceTrees

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I take offence to your reference to back pain. I think I would have like it better if you had said your ass hurt or something stupid like that. I will assume that is what you meant. Otherwise I agree with your post.
Didn't mean any offense to anyone actually suffering from those conditions or chronic pain, that's why I put it in "quotations" to refer to the people just using it as an easy way to get into the medical system
 

rpanon

Active Member
conspiracy theorist paranoid stoners were right all along that the govt wanted to keep pot smokers on 'a list'
 

WHATFG

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I just saw on bc this morning that HC has set a July 13 deadline for public comment on these proposed changes. I wonder what the outcome of those consultations will be?
 

leaffan

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More details in this Huff article...I hope you folks don't mind me highlighting, and making a couple ( inserts )....

Health Canada is rolling out new regulations that would require medical marijuana companies to provide information about their patients and the doctors who prescribe the drug to medical colleges.

The proposed amendments to the newly enacted “Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations” would allow provincial regulators, most of whom have been vocal in their opposition to members prescribing marijuana, “to more effectively monitor the practices of their members.”
Health Canada estimates the changes will come at a cost to the industry of nearly $3 million over the next decade.

The new rules would require licensed producers to provide information about doctors who authorize the use of medical marijuana including their names, addresses and licence numbers when requested by a provincial medical licensing body.

Companies would be compelled to provide patient information such as the quantity of dried marijuana prescribed, the period of use and basic patient information.

Unlike the physician information, the patient information would be provided to medical colleges on a regular basis: semi-annually.

Health Canada officials had previously been responsible for deciding who had legal access to medical marijuana. But the federal agency changed the system on April 1, and now a medical document (doctors shy from the word “prescription”) from a doctor is needed to get medical pot.

The new program is under intense scrutiny from regulatory colleges across the country, and physicians who authorize the use of marijuana are going to be screened far more closely than they have been. Medical colleges have the ability to revoke doctors’ licences.

The new rules would also allow for a transition period for colleges to retroactively request the information back to when the companies were registered and before the regulations were updated.

Another amendment would require licensed producers to keep records of the information provided to the licensing bodies.

Health Canada estimates the new rules will cost the fledgling industry some $423,461 per year due to additional paperwork, with costs decreasing over time. The agency calculated the data based on the assumption that 50 licenced producers will operate in the market, even though it has received more than 600 applications.

The agency has never said whether there will be be a cap on the number of entrants allowed into the market, nor why it chose the number 50 for its analysis. It has approved licences for some 20 companies already.

Until now, licensed producers were required to make the patient and doctor information available to Health Canada but not the colleges that oversee and investigate physicians’ conduct.

There will be a consultation period for the proposed amendments before they become law. Health Canada said it has had initial consultations with a select group of licensed producers who have indicated “they would regard this as a positive opportunity.” ( Bedrocan and Cannimed I assume )

The agency said existing provincial monitoring systems do not provide oversight for doctors and nurses who authorize medical marijuana.

“Despite the efforts that have been made, ( what efforts?) there is less information and fewer other resources about marihuana for medical purposes available to healthcare professionals than would typically be available for an approved prescription narcotic,” it said.

Health Canada has since doled out a handful of production licences and has received hundreds more applications from entrepreneurs looking to cash in on the industry, which the government believes could be worth $1.3 billion and grow from 40,000 to 400,000 users in the next decade.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/06/13/medical-marijuana-rules-canada_n_5493454.html
 

ttystikk

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It's all about cashing in, and nothing pays as well as making money from the suffering of others.
 
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